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Re: Pattern Making for Resin Kits Presentation download

Misc Clark
 

Thanks, Bill! Very generous!...please keep us informed of any updates to the material...
regards, Clark Cone
getting ready to make the plunge (O and S scale resin kits)



On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
 

By my count there are at least five enterprises or individuals currently active in making resin kits of freight cars available to us and by the New Year we can expect someone new to offering kits, plus we can expect Speedwitch's reboot to be up and running by the spring sometime. All of these kit providers need patterns to continue to issue the rolling stock we think we just have to have.


Because I have had some experience successfully  making patterns I offered a clinic at Cocoa Beach and Lisle about my own process of research, thinking about how to proceed, planning/engineering, and actual pattern making to encourage interested people to take the plunge themselves and devote some time and energy to a project they are passionate about.

In that spirit I am also providing a link to download this presentation, although without the narrative there will be questions. To answer your questions I have provided my contact information at the end of the presentation for those that are SERIOUS to contact me. I would prefer to talk on the phone about your questions but will want to use email to arrange those conversations.

One caveat I have for anyone is that to tackle pattern making it is very helpful to have built several kits and it is important to have built kits from all of the major purveyors of kits because they all have their quirks in terms how they do things which is invaluable in thinking about how to start. Also, given the amount of product now available in both resin and styrene, you may have something in mind that only requires a different roof, side, end, door, or underframe or some combination of these. This is a great place to start.

Here is the download link. It will work for about the next 3 weeks or so: https://www.dropbox.com/s/njb94c1vwy7z1ov/Pattern%20making%20for%20resin%20kits.pdf

The subject in the presentation is on pause right now while I attempt to get some patterns returned but it will see the light of day. Regarding the mold making and casting processes, there are other forums for that. Beside the whole intend for the presentation is to produce something you can then give to the kit seller and let them worry about the casting.

The presentation is copyrighted and I hope people will respect this and not share it indiscriminately and I also hope only people that are SERIOUS will use my contact info. I hate having to say this but I am sure people will also understand. I do hope that everyone will see something that will give them an idea of what goes into making parts and try making something themselves.

Bill Welch



Pattern Making for Resin Kits Presentation download

Bill Welch
 

By my count there are at least five enterprises or individuals currently active in making resin kits of freight cars available to us and by the New Year we can expect someone new to offering kits, plus we can expect Speedwitch's reboot to be up and running by the spring sometime. All of these kit providers need patterns to continue to issue the rolling stock we think we just have to have.

Because I have had some experience successfully  making patterns I offered a clinic at Cocoa Beach and Lisle about my own process of research, thinking about how to proceed, planning/engineering, and actual pattern making to encourage interested people to take the plunge themselves and devote some time and energy to a project they are passionate about.

In that spirit I am also providing a link to download this presentation, although without the narrative there will be questions. To answer your questions I have provided my contact information at the end of the presentation for those that are SERIOUS to contact me. I would prefer to talk on the phone about your questions but will want to use email to arrange those conversations.

One caveat I have for anyone is that to tackle pattern making it is very helpful to have built several kits and it is important to have built kits from all of the major purveyors of kits because they all have their quirks in terms how they do things which is invaluable in thinking about how to start. Also, given the amount of product now available in both resin and styrene, you may have something in mind that only requires a different roof, side, end, door, or underframe or some combination of these. This is a great place to start.

Here is the download link. It will work for about the next 3 weeks or so: https://www.dropbox.com/s/njb94c1vwy7z1ov/Pattern%20making%20for%20resin%20kits.pdf

The subject in the presentation is on pause right now while I attempt to get some patterns returned but it will see the light of day. Regarding the mold making and casting processes, there are other forums for that. Beside the whole intend for the presentation is to produce something you can then give to the kit seller and let them worry about the casting.

The presentation is copyrighted and I hope people will respect this and not share it indiscriminately and I also hope only people that are SERIOUS will use my contact info. I hate having to say this but I am sure people will also understand. I do hope that everyone will see something that will give them an idea of what goes into making parts and try making something themselves.

Bill Welch


Re: Ertl HO cars.

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Don,

 

               The new Yahoo!Groups website may be somewhat unfamiliar (at best) or painful to use (at worst), but it does contain the answers you seek.  For example, the Gon is a MEC prototype only.  It is kitbash-able into an ACL car.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Don
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 5:14 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Ertl HO cars.

 

 


Ertl has been out of the HO train market for what, some ten or
more years now? I first became interested in the line upon discovery
of their Maine Central low side gondola on a close-out for $4 each
some years ago. This was an exceptional bargain for anyone modeling northern New England in the postwar years as at least one of the
paper mills located on the MEC had a contract with the Swanton Lime Co., at the west end of the St. Johnsbury & Lake Champlain RR in Swanton, VT, to supply broken limestone for the paper making process. For a number of years in the postwar period this broken limestone was carried eastery over the St.J.&L.C. and down the MEC's Mountain Subdivision to the MEC's Rigby Yard in south Portland, ME before
being moved along for mill delivery. By the early 1960's such deliveries were being made in 40 ft. single-sheathed boxcars that the St.J.& Lamoille County by that time had acquired secondhand someplace. These cars had the roofs removed leaving only two or three "ribs" across their tops to hold their sides together.

Upon discovery at the close-out two or three of the Ertl MEC cars were purchased for the purpose cited. When picking up a load of lime
at Shelburne Lime several years ago a pile of finely ground limestone was found that was slighty larger than O scale ballast and smaller in size. A peanut butter sized container was filled with it from which excellent loads for the Ertl MEC gons have been made. The same could
be done with the open top box cars if they were correct for the
period I model. As I understand things Ertl offered the gondola in
ten different road names. Having an excellent 3/4 view of the MEC
prototype I know the Ertl car is accurte for that prototype but does
anyone know if it is good for the other nine roads? These are the
CNJ, LV, ACL, SBD, Southern, N&W, CofG, L&N and Virginian.

More recently a few Ertl DS USRA box cars have been acquired.
I realize that some modelers have laughed at the factory weathering
on these Ertl box cars but the more I look at them the more impressed
I have become with these cars. Perhaps I am alone in this respect but
I prefer models of prototype box cars to have doors that open just
like those of the prototype. Ertl seems to have accomplished this in
a better way than any other provider of HO scale box cars while still
maintaining everything in scale. The rest of the detail on the car is
equally impressive, from the thinnest roof I have ever seen on an
injection molded HO car to the brake rigging. The lettering for some roads could seemingly be better but the overall cars are really quite
nice. I particularly like the DL&W, CB&Q and ACL USRA DS cars even
if most of the latter had been rebuilt with steel sides as has been
discussed here lately. Also offered were B&M, RI, GN, MoPac, AT&SF,
NYC and C&NW. Does anyone have any comments of the accuracy of the lettering on any of these.

The third car in teh Ertl line ws a 40 ft. flat car. I have one
lettered for the N.C.& St.L. Others were offered for the B&M, CNR,
CPR, GTW, ACL, MoPac, T&P, Frisco and SP&S. This car appears to be
as well done as the gondola and box car but that is all I can say
about it. It appears that it may have the same prototype as the Gould/Tichy flat car, which would make the NC&StL car a decent car
if the lettering is correct. Once again any comments on the accuracy
of the car itself and the various lettering plans would be
appreciated. I, for one, am very pleased with these cars and feel it
is unfortunate that they are no longer available. One cannot help
but wonder where the tooling for them is.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Billboard's Authenticity

albyrno
 

 Look on e-bay for branchline cars under completed sales and you will see several of them.

                         Alan 



---In stmfc@..., <rongager@...> wrote:




On 31 October 2013 16:28, Ron Gager <rongager@...> wrote:
Hi there

I am Ron Gager  NMRA British Region Asst. Mktg. Co-ordinator
I am passionate about collecting (& researching) HO  40 foot and 36 foot wood and steel sided reefers and box cars with billboard sides.  I may have as few 50 ' ones too.  I am less interested if they have a railroad line's name or inignia on.  The  "X" codes (leased ones) eg URTX are well documented on Wikipedia.

I have all the relevant books I can find but do wonder just how many of these liveries are authentic?  How can I tell?

Several in my collection of several hundreds have no running number but a good livery representing a known company.  These, I suspect, never existed in the real world.

Can anyone enlighten me on these two points please?

Ron Gager



speaking of old hopper cars...

Tim O'Connor
 

Built in 1912, rebuilt in 1935, still active in 1971!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131030225366

Tim O'


Re: Ertl HO cars.

Benjamin Hom
 

Don Valentine asked:
"More recently a few Ertl DS USRA box cars have been acquired.
<<snip>>
The lettering for some roads could seemingly be better but the overall cars are really quite nice. I particularly like the DL&W, CB&Q and ACL USRA DS cars even if most of the latter had been rebuilt with steel sides as has been discussed here lately. Also offered were B&M, RI, GN, MoPac, AT&SF, NYC and C&NW. Does anyone have any comments of the accuracy of the lettering on any of these."
 
Paint and lettering scheme accuracy is the biggest area of shortcomings of the Ertl cars.  They made the mistake of following the lettering profiles done by Hundman (IIRC in the January 1980 issue of Mainline Modeler, reprinted in one of the Phoenix softcovers), which contain numerous errors (marking another occasion where following Hundman drawings screwed over a manufacturer).  Even the cars with accurate lettering is a bit heavy handed.  To answer your specific question:
 
OK: B&M, MP, AT&SF, NYC.
 
Bogus: CB&Q (completely incorrect lettering arrangement), RI (herald never applied to USRA DS boxcar), GN (bogus herald and poor lettering arrangement), C&NW (has "Lines" herald that debuted after these cars were rebuilt).
 
Open to Question: DL&W (no photos of USRA DS boxcars with "Phoebe Snow" slogan have surfaced; most photos purported to be these cars have actually been other DL&W DS boxcars); ACL (possibly bogus herald; Denis Blake alleges that some cars did receive the herald on the Ertl car but has not produced evidence supporting this argument).
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: Boxcar Ends

Joe Bower <jnbower1@...>
 

Have you noticed the differences in the inside ribs on the wheels of the two cars? Those on the NKP look typical standard, those on the L&N are unusual.

 

Joe Bower

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 12:04 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Boxcar Ends

 

 

Perhaps it is too obvious to bother commenting about this, but I notice the
difference in the taper and contours on the inverted ribs of the Murphy ends
on the L&N car compared with NKP car. A nice detail which I think can be
noticeable in HO or larger scales.

Rob Kirkham

-----Original Message-----
From: Don
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 3:56 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Boxcar Ends

--- In STMFC@..., wrote:
>
> Here is a link to a Shorpy post showing the ends of two boxcars taken in
> Washington, D.C., in 1925.
>
> http://www.shorpy.com/node/16007?size=_original#caption
> http://www.shorpy.com/node/16007?size=_original#caption
>
> Click on the photo to enlarge it.
>
> The detail is quite good…so good one can distinguish the paint
> deterioration around the area of the brake platform from the boots of
> brakemen.
>
> Cab I assume the stenciled “B” on the car to the right stands for
> “B’ end of the car?
>
> Bob Chaparro
> Hemet, CA
>

Great photo, Bob. Note too the presence of good, fractured stone
ballast in a yard BUT no tie plates!!!!

Cordially, Don Valentine

------------------------------------

Yahoo Groups Links


Re: FEC double sheathed box car

Benjamin Hom
 

Tim O'Connor asked:
"Anyone know any details about these cars? I found that 33 of them
were still listed in revenue service in the 1963 ORER.

the stencil is unusual -- 'for contaminated commodities only'"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370910423669

FEC 20501-20681, originally built as ventilated boxcars in 1921, later rebuilt to insulated boxcars.  (Note the plated over end ventilators.)  Kits available in HO scale from Funaro & Camerlengo.
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: FEC double sheathed box car

destorzek@...
 

Tim,


I think that reads "for contaminating commodities only." Likely meaning hide service, after which the car is unfit for anything else. From the patches in the ends, it looks like they are the old ventilator cars.


Dennis



---In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

anyone know any details about these cars? I found that 33 of them
were still listed in revenue service in the 1963 ORER.

the stencil is unusual -- "for contaminated commodities only"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370910423669

Tim O'


FEC double sheathed box car

Tim O'Connor
 

anyone know any details about these cars? I found that 33 of them
were still listed in revenue service in the 1963 ORER.

the stencil is unusual -- "for contaminated commodities only"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370910423669

Tim O'


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Rosters for USRA single sheathed boxcar and steel rebuilds (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Tim;

VERY interesting observation! I agree with you and Bruce. I was not around in 1952, but I have certainly looked at a LOT of photos of that time, especially yard shots, and talked to a ton of ex-employees about things like this, and I also think there were not many times when older classes of PRR box car were running around in interchange service, WW 2 being the HUGE exception, even if they were in the ORER. WW 2 pulled EVERYTHING back onto the rails, even if it was barely serviceable, but after 1945, old cars came off the road by hundreds a month. You can see the decline in the ORERs. The photos I do see of older classes, like the X26's, late in life, are in yards, and in locations most likely to be storage areas, and sometimes evident with bad order stencils. I have only seen a handful of photos of X26's in a moving train.

Given the size of the bad order "fleet" on the PRR, I have made a point of building cars that, on my layout, will almost never be seen in a train. My X26 will be in nasty condition, and will only show up in a blue moon, and likely parked on a siding. I also have a GR, G22, a G25B, and two X29's that have bad order stencils on one side, so I can bad order them within a session, if I choose. Rotate the car 180 degrees, and the stencil is visible.

There were so many of them by my timeframe, one would be missing a big part of the picture if one ignored their presence. I'll add that I lived very close to a major storage yard, and there were areas reserved for bad order, not class filtered like in a rebuilding program, and by my time, the X29's were all being cascaded out of service, as the bad ordered X29's were not being repaired to go back into service, if they had anything expensive to be done to them. So, there is also a distinction between "bad ordered - to be repaired", "bad ordered - not to be repaired", and "in storage", all of which could be modeled.

I also realize that other roads were more affluent, or perhaps had better management of (and funding available to) their fleets, so this would not be as prevalent elsewhere, but we ARE talking PRR here, and that might spill onto your RR as well.

Great topic,

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:57 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [STMFC] Re: Rosters for USRA single sheathed boxcar and steel rebuilds




I've read previously that PRR rostered many thousands of older freight
cars that were stored awaiting repairs or an upturn in traffic. So the
question is, how many of those single sheathed X26's were really actively
moving freight?

Tim O'Connor






The PRR received 9,900 of the 25,000 USRA SS boxcars built.
The PRR numbers are from PRR equipment lists at the PA State Archives:
(Its in the ORERs too but there are multiple PRR number series)

Yes there were 5,919 X26 USRA SS boxcars in service in 1-1951 and 2,198 X26 cars in service on 1-1953.
The PRR X26c (steel rebuilds) numbers from the equipment lists are: 1-1951: 3010, 1-1953: 3393

I am also interested in 1951-1953 so I didn't look up quanities for steel rebuilds for later years.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

Jeff Aley wrote:
Are you saying that in 1951, the PRR had ~6000 USRA SS cars? Is this number for unmodified cars only, or does it include all of the upgrades? For your second file (the rebuilds), do you have the qtys over time (as you have in the first spreadsheet)? In particular, I'm interested in 1951 - 1953.



Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


Ertl HO cars.

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

Ertl has been out of the HO train market for what, some ten or
more years now? I first became interested in the line upon discovery
of their Maine Central low side gondola on a close-out for $4 each
some years ago. This was an exceptional bargain for anyone modeling northern New England in the postwar years as at least one of the
paper mills located on the MEC had a contract with the Swanton Lime Co., at the west end of the St. Johnsbury & Lake Champlain RR in Swanton, VT, to supply broken limestone for the paper making process. For a number of years in the postwar period this broken limestone was carried eastery over the St.J.&L.C. and down the MEC's Mountain Subdivision to the MEC's Rigby Yard in south Portland, ME before
being moved along for mill delivery. By the early 1960's such deliveries were being made in 40 ft. single-sheathed boxcars that the St.J.& Lamoille County by that time had acquired secondhand someplace. These cars had the roofs removed leaving only two or three "ribs" across their tops to hold their sides together.

Upon discovery at the close-out two or three of the Ertl MEC cars were purchased for the purpose cited. When picking up a load of lime
at Shelburne Lime several years ago a pile of finely ground limestone was found that was slighty larger than O scale ballast and smaller in size. A peanut butter sized container was filled with it from which excellent loads for the Ertl MEC gons have been made. The same could
be done with the open top box cars if they were correct for the
period I model. As I understand things Ertl offered the gondola in
ten different road names. Having an excellent 3/4 view of the MEC
prototype I know the Ertl car is accurte for that prototype but does
anyone know if it is good for the other nine roads? These are the
CNJ, LV, ACL, SBD, Southern, N&W, CofG, L&N and Virginian.

More recently a few Ertl DS USRA box cars have been acquired.
I realize that some modelers have laughed at the factory weathering
on these Ertl box cars but the more I look at them the more impressed
I have become with these cars. Perhaps I am alone in this respect but
I prefer models of prototype box cars to have doors that open just
like those of the prototype. Ertl seems to have accomplished this in
a better way than any other provider of HO scale box cars while still
maintaining everything in scale. The rest of the detail on the car is
equally impressive, from the thinnest roof I have ever seen on an
injection molded HO car to the brake rigging. The lettering for some roads could seemingly be better but the overall cars are really quite
nice. I particularly like the DL&W, CB&Q and ACL USRA DS cars even
if most of the latter had been rebuilt with steel sides as has been
discussed here lately. Also offered were B&M, RI, GN, MoPac, AT&SF,
NYC and C&NW. Does anyone have any comments of the accuracy of the lettering on any of these.

The third car in teh Ertl line ws a 40 ft. flat car. I have one
lettered for the N.C.& St.L. Others were offered for the B&M, CNR,
CPR, GTW, ACL, MoPac, T&P, Frisco and SP&S. This car appears to be
as well done as the gondola and box car but that is all I can say
about it. It appears that it may have the same prototype as the Gould/Tichy flat car, which would make the NC&StL car a decent car
if the lettering is correct. Once again any comments on the accuracy
of the car itself and the various lettering plans would be
appreciated. I, for one, am very pleased with these cars and feel it
is unfortunate that they are no longer available. One cannot help
but wonder where the tooling for them is.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Boxcar Ends

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., <LBSingletary@...> wrote:

In looking at the tiff photo I noticed the wheels are a bit unusual, or
were they common in this era?

Lee S.

On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:03:32 -0700 Robert <rdkirkham@...> writes:
Perhaps it is too obvious to bother commenting about this, but I
notice the
difference in the taper and contours on the inverted ribs of the
Murphy ends
on the L&N car compared with NKP car. A nice detail which I think
can be
noticeable in HO or larger scales.

Rob Kirkham


Lee Singletary
Louisville & Nashville Railroad Historical Society
Alabaster, Alabama
http://lee.rrpicturearchives.net/

No matter how the L&N aotu box is viewed it is still a rather neat car for those of ius modeling the immediate postwar period. Has
anyone producced a model of anything even close to it?

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Rosters for USRA single sheathed boxcar and steel rebuilds

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Armand Premo2" <armprem2@...> wrote:

Very good points Bruce.Unfortunately many of us do not have that many > places to store these cars on our layouts.
Armand Premo-----


It occurs to me that there are two possible solutions to this problem. First, the addition of one track along the backside of any yard whereon any such out of seervice cars can be stored. Second, the use or creation of a stub-ended abandoned branch line on which they can be stored such as the Green Mountain R.R. has done for many years with the remaining piece of the B&M Cheshire Branch between the south end of the GMRC's North Walpole, NH Yard and the crosing of NH Rt. #12 at Cold River. Neither of these would seem to take much space and would make a good project.

Cordially, Don Valentine


I.C. Converted 41'3"Hopper avalible....again

Chad Boas
 

Hi All,
I have reworked the sides of the I.C hopper that I made several years ago using the Archer rivets. These cars were originally 41'3" drop bottom gons like the ones Red Caboose makes. I.C. made them into 2 bay hoppers.
The kits will need the brake detail, trucks, couplers and grabs to complete. The kits WILL have decals :)
I have 15 decal sheet on order. Kits will be $25 each. Please contact me off list if interested.
Thanks, Chad


Re: Okay! I give up.

charles_8309@...
 

My provider does not show the address for the "on behalf of but if I hover the mouse over it, it will give me the option of replying.  One of the issues here is that different e mail accounts require different methods, and it is often necessary to experiment to see what works.



Chuck Happel

Do you need a silencer to shoot a mime?


From: "Schuyler Larrabee"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 12:09:27 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Okay!  I give up.

 

I do not understand why people are having such trouble sending private
messages to other members of the STMFC list.

I have my choices set to "Individual Emails," and when I see messages, it
says On Behalf of (email address) at the top of the message.

If I want to reply to (email address), I just copy that address, hit reply,
and paste the address in the "To" blank. If it says STMFC@...
then I select that, sweeping over it with the left mouse button pressed
down, then right click on the selected text and click "Paste."

Geez, guys, it ain't rocket science.

If this all come about because you are going to the Yahoo website and trying
to do this from there, well, Bob's your Uncle, and that's your problem.
Just set things so you get individual emails and you can do as I describe
above.

Schuyler

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
g.corral@...
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:43 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Okay! I give up.

How do I send an email to another member.

I've only been using computers for 35 years and I'm stumped. Probably
getting to old to do this anymore.

Someone? Anyone?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Getting started......

Timothy Cannon
 

I am changing from HO to P48 and need some advice and info.

1. I plan on using Micro Engineering Flex Track code 125.What do I use for rail joiners? Should I use prefab turnouts or lay my own, which I've never done before?

2. I like to scratch build my rolling stock. Where do I find scribed wood for siding and what would the spacing be for? I plan to model the 1900-1930 time period. Where do I find details for that period rolling stock? I plan on building several boxcars so I need to keep the cost down. What are decent priced trucks and couplers in bulk and who sells them?

3. What is the recommended colors for these cars in general? What is the best source for this color of paint? Scalecoat?

 

Thanks!

Tim


Re: test message #1

Tony Thompson
 

Speedwitch Media's Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Volume Two:  Tank Cars is darned good but all black and white.

Why do we call such photographs "black and white" when they are mostly shades of gray and little or no actual black or white?


   Put a strong loupe on those images, Gene. They most certainly ARE black dots, of varying sizes, on a white field. Your eye-brain connection blends them as gray.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Boxcar Ends

LBSingletary@...
 

In looking at the tiff photo I noticed the wheels are a bit unusual, or
were they common in this era?

Lee S.

On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:03:32 -0700 Robert <rdkirkham@...> writes:
Perhaps it is too obvious to bother commenting about this, but I
notice the
difference in the taper and contours on the inverted ribs of the
Murphy ends
on the L&N car compared with NKP car. A nice detail which I think
can be
noticeable in HO or larger scales.

Rob Kirkham


Lee Singletary
Louisville & Nashville Railroad Historical Society
Alabaster, Alabama
http://lee.rrpicturearchives.net/

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Re: Okay! I give up.

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I do not understand why people are having such trouble sending private
messages to other members of the STMFC list.



I have my choices set to "Individual Emails," and when I see messages, it
says On Behalf of (email address) at the top of the message.



If I want to reply to (email address), I just copy that address, hit reply,
and paste the address in the "To" blank. If it says STMFC@...
then I select that, sweeping over it with the left mouse button pressed
down, then right click on the selected text and click "Paste."



Geez, guys, it ain't rocket science.



If this all come about because you are going to the Yahoo website and trying
to do this from there, well, Bob's your Uncle, and that's your problem.
Just set things so you get individual emails and you can do as I describe
above.



Schuyler



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
g.corral@...
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:43 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Okay! I give up.





How do I send an email to another member.

I've only been using computers for 35 years and I'm stumped. Probably
getting to old to do this anymore.

Someone? Anyone?

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