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Re: PRR x-24 decals needed (in O)

Gene Deimling
 

Brad Rick Leach may have done the X23/24 lettering for Pat O'Boyle (Pacific Limited). Gene Deimling


Re: PRR x-24 decals needed (in O)

Benjamin Hom
 

Brad Andonian asked:
"Can anyone help me source these?    I need about 4 pair---"
 
As in the boxcar class?  Or something else?
http://prr.railfan.net/freight/freightphotos.html?photo=PRR_500860_X24_34view.jpg&fr=clX24
 
 
Ben Hom


PRR x-24 decals needed (in O)

Brad Andonian
 

Fellas,
 
Can anyone help me source these?    I need about 4 pair---
 
Thank you,
Brad Andonian


O Scale Virginian items

Bill Lane
 

A friend has a way of frequently wanting things after they are sold out. He then gets me to go fishing on the internet trying to find them.

 

Up to 2) Mikes Train House Virginian Trainmasters item number 20-2034-2 which  is the 2 rail scale version. The Trainmaster MUST be the 2 rail version. If they are DCC sound equipped right out of the box that is even better. I don’t know if there is a different MTH item number for a different cab number but he obviously wants 2 different cab numbers.

 

1 or maybe 2 Mikes Train House Virginian composite 2 bay hopper cars item 20-97254

 

Of course first choice is brand new, but he might consider used.

 

***Please reply directly**** to bill@... if you have any of these models for sale with your asking price, or know if you of someone that does have them for sale.

 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

 

See my layout progress at:

http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

 


Re: L&N ARA 1924 single sheathed boxcar bolster spacing

Eric Lombard
 

James,

The records I have, based on a series of equipment diagrams are:
L&N     7500-7999, 500, 1930, MTV, 5-6
L&N 12000-12999, 1000, 1924, TCI, 5-0
L&N 13000-13499, 500, 1924, MTV, 5-0
L&N 13500-13999, 500, 1926, STC, 5-0
L&N 14000-14299, 300, 1928, MTV, 5-6
L&N 14300-14599, 300, 1929, PUL, 5-6

Eric Lombard
Homewood, IL


Professor Emeritus
Organismal Biology, University of Chicago
Research Associate, Field Museum of Natural History
708-720-0566 
Mail to:
Geology Department
Field Museum of Natural History
1400 S. Lake Shore Drive
Chicago, IL 60605-2496


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:51 PM, James McDonald <james@...> wrote:
 

Dear list,

Could anyone help me with details on which number series of the L&N 1924
ARA recommended practice XM-1 single sheathed cars had 5' 0" striker to
bolster distance, and which had 5' 6"? I've been through all of my
available literature and have come up short. This may have been
discussed here before, but I can't get the site search to give me
meaningful results so forgive me if this is a rehash question.

Thanks and all the best,

James

=-=-=-=
James McDonald
Greenbelt, MD.



L&N ARA 1924 single sheathed boxcar bolster spacing

James McDonald
 

Dear list,

Could anyone help me with details on which number series of the L&N 1924 ARA recommended practice XM-1 single sheathed cars had 5' 0" striker to bolster distance, and which had 5' 6"? I've been through all of my available literature and have come up short. This may have been discussed here before, but I can't get the site search to give me meaningful results so forgive me if this is a rehash question.

Thanks and all the best,

James

=-=-=-=
James McDonald
Greenbelt, MD.


Re: Nitric acid tank car

Jim Barnes
 

Richard, this is a great picture and gives wonder just how many non standard car designs have been built. I would really like to see the Dupont version. Thanks Richard for sharing this rare picture.
Jim Barnes

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android



From: Richard Hendrickson ;
To: STMFC@... ;
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Nitric acid tank car
Sent: Fri, Nov 15, 2013 9:27:52 PM

 

On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:



On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Paolo Roffo wrote:

Would anyone here happen to have any more details about this odd tank car at museum in Saint Louis:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=436730
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=831394

The museum's web site is lacking on details other than the 1940 build date.  I'm interested in how many were built and how long they stayed in service, if anyone has those details.

Paolo,
The 50-ton car MCHX 117 was built 5-40 by ACF under lot no. 1996. The class is ICC-103C-AL. Inside the car is an 8,000 gallon aluminum tank (listed in the ORER as 8,098 gallons). The car continued to be listed as MCHX 117 through the April 1955 ORER. By 1/56 the MCHX reporting marks had been phased out. The 1/56 ORER lists the car under Monsanto Chemical Co., MONX 173, which continued to be listed through Oct. 1960 and April 1961. Thus the car's service life extended beyond the scope of this discussion group.

When new the car had the center section, dome, underframe (including Alan Wood Super Diamond Plate running boards), and trucks painted black. The remainder of the jacket was Buff Yellow. White stencils over black. Black and red stencils over the buff yellow.

The Museum of Transportation has a few ACF original drawings that apply to this car:
6155011 General Arrangement
4155010 Center Sill
3152751 Tank Arrangement

Nine very similar cars were built during the early to mid-1940s by ACF.
GCX 4500, built 3-41, lot 2104 (General Chemical Co.)
GCX 4501-4502, built 2-42, lot 2295
USOX 17018-17022, built 5-43, lot 2548 (Holston Ordnance Works)
MCHX 110, built 6-46, lot 2829

To which I will add that very similar Nitric Acid cars were built by General American - I have a photo of one car, built in 1949, that was leased to Du Pont.  Also, Union Tank Line converted a number of its class X-3 cars built ca. 1920-’21 to a similar configuration by adding insulating jackets and Lithcote linings; I have photos of several UTL cars in the 85000 series.

In all cases, the insulation and jacketing on these cars extended down to the running boards rather than wrapping completely around the tank, so that heavier-than-air fumes would be vented at the bottom of the insulation rather than being collected inside it and becoming a corrosion or explosion hazard.


Richard Hendrickson



Re: Jerry Glow, AGAIN

Allen Cain
 

Voice mail screened when I called


Fw: WESTERFIELD MODELS National Model Railroad Sale, HO Scale

dahminator68
 

I have redone the link.  I apologize for any inconvenience.
 
 
Hello STMFC Modelers:  We are pleased to announce that Westerfield Models is having a Four day sale to celebrate National Model Railroad Month in November!  From Today until 11-18-2013, modelers may choose one of the following sale specials:
 
#1:  Purchase any Kit and receive 1 of the following items Free.  Choose from our DVD: How-to-Build Our Kits or 1 Decal set.  Use Coupon code MRMONTH-1FREE on our website or your mailed in order.
 
#2:  Purchase any 2 Kits and receive 2 of the following items Free.  Choose from our DVD: How-to-Build Our Kits and 1 decal or choose 2 decal sets. Use Coupon code MRMONTH-2FREE on our website or your mailed in order.
 
#3:  Purchase 3 or more Kits and receive $5 off shipping Plus the following items Free.  Choose from our above DVD and 1 or more decals or just decal sets.  Use Coupon code MRMONTH-2FRSHIP for three Kits ordered on our website or your mailed in order.  Website orders will show full shipping and the discount will then apply.  If ordering more than three Kits, use Coupon code MRMONTH-3FRSHIP for Four Kits, MRMONTH-4FRSHIP for Five Kits, and so on.
 
Westerfield Models website:  westerfieldmodels.com
 
This offer is good from now until 11:59 pm MT 11-18-13.  Please Note:  Coupon codes must be entered as shown.
Mailed in orders must be postmarked by 11-19-13.  From our website main page, you may print out our order form.
 
We will be attending the Cocoa Beach Prototype Rails RPM in January, 2014.  If you would like us to bring any specific kits with us to the show, please let us know by early December.
All of our Kits are HO scale resin craftsman kits wiht custom decals.  Kits are less trucks and couplers.
 
Thank you,
Andrew Dahm



Re: caboose identification

james murrie
 

I have two of these made from the old Ambroid 1 of 5000 kits and they make a fine model even considering the era they were manufactured.  I even painted and lettered some NC&StL F-7s and GP-9s so I could run them on a club layout at the time.

  Ambroid provided the leaf spring trucks if I recall correctly.

 I think that at the time I just pieced the lettering from Walthers Railroad Roman (?) decals, but since their lettering for years was only initials and a number it was pretty easy to do.

Jim Murrie 


Re: Nice cut of cars including partial view of B&LE steel gon

Andy Carlson
 

Back in the wood underframe era there were two basic ways to mount the coupler draft gear, resulting in very different car heights. Two center sills were common to both styles, the difference was in where the coupler gears were attached. Add the coupler to the bottom of the center sills and you get the most commonly used underframe where the car's couplers generally hang down bellow the end sill. This was by far the most commonly used method in standard gauge car construction. Contrast this with the 2nd method of coupler mounting--tucking the draft gear BETWEEN the center sills. This shows the coupler extending through the end sill and has the car sitting lower by the thickness of the center sills. Sort of the "hunkered down" look popularized by the Denver and Rio Grande's large narrow gauge fleet. Both styles were popular in narrow gauge construction.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: Benjamin Hom
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:50 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Nice cut of cars including partial view of B&LE steel gon

 
Don Valentine wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/mgtvgpp

"But what about the Rock Island furniture car???? Do my aging eyes deceive me or does it have the shortest truss rods I've ever seen and a lower car floor as well? The entire car appears to sit lower than normal and given that furniture cars of that era were built for volume rather than weight perhaps this should not be surprising."
 
Not surprising at all given the tighter clearances of the era.  Lowering the floor was a cheat to squeeze more volume into the car design.
 
 
Ben Hom




Re: Nice cut of cars including partial view of B&LE steel gon

Benjamin Hom
 

Don Valentine wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/mgtvgpp

"But what about the Rock Island furniture car???? Do my aging eyes deceive me or does it have the shortest truss rods I've ever seen and a lower car floor as well? The entire car appears to sit lower than normal and given that furniture cars of that era were built for volume rather than weight perhaps this should not be surprising."
 
Not surprising at all given the tighter clearances of the era.  Lowering the floor was a cheat to squeeze more volume into the car design.
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: My latest completed car

Brad Andonian
 


Bill
 
Lovely work; it sure looks like my Pac Ltd model!    A swell car to have.
 
Cheers,
BRad Andonian

From: Bill Lane
To: Steam Era Freight cars ; S-Scale@...; PRR-Modeling@...
Cc: members@...
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:44 AM
Subject: [STMFC] My latest completed car
 
Here is my new page for my latest completed car.  http://www.lanestrains.com/Seaboard_Express_Boxcar.htm Please give it a look.
 
Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
 
See my layout progress at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
 


Re: caboose identification

Anspach Denny <danspachmd@...>
 

Well, the 1922 Car Builders Cyc devotes a full two pages with photo to this large caboose, confirming for me that the NC&StL was indeed Red Ball's chosen prototype. Of interest:

It was designed for pusher service (suggested on this list earlier). How many were constructed, and by whom?

It has three bunks, a lot of room, stove, sink, etc., but….no toilet!  H-mmm. Perhaps it was not to be used on the road except for short  runs, and otherwise was used  -in waiting- as a sort of bunk car with shore-side facilities. Perhaps the road had an operating employee policy about "holding it".

In the photo, it is identified as "NC&St.L" only by very small medallions -c. 8"- at both ends of the sides. No number visible.

The model seems to be quite accurate with very sharply-defined cast metal sides and cupola.  I agree with the poster that the stirrup steps were probably an expedient-  but they do look right in place.

The prototype photo shows Andrews trucks, while the model has arch bar (good looking). Both have operating leaf springs. 

Now…where is a convenient source of NC&StL lettering?

Denny


Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento

Please make note of my new eMail address.


My latest completed car

Bill Lane
 

Here is my new page for my latest completed car.  http://www.lanestrains.com/Seaboard_Express_Boxcar.htm Please give it a look.

 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

 

See my layout progress at:

http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

 


Re: caboose identification - NC&StL caboose decals

Steven D Johnson
 

Denny,

 

As for lettering, Blue Ridge Historics produces an HO resin kit of this NC&StL prototype (RR class NE-1), and offers correct decals which are available separately.  Some of those cabooses went to the L&N after the merger in 1957, and at least one, no. 318 (ex-NC&StL no. 20) was fully repainted and re-lettered into L&N.  There is a photo of this car in Volume 2 of the L&N Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment published by Morning Sun Books.

BRH also has a set of HO L&N caboose decals that will work well if you want to letter your model for the L&N. 

 

The NE-1 cabooses were built by the railroad’s West Nashville Shops in 1916 and were numbered 1-20.  They were constructed with steel underframes, and were designed to be used in pusher service. 

 

I have several photos of the NE-1 cabooses, along with diagram sheets, interior arrangement, and a car-by-car NC&StL to L&N renumbering list.  Contact me off list if you’re interested in this stuff.     

 

Steve Johnson

Nashville, TN 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Denny Anspach
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:21 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: caboose identification

 

 

As always, I delight in the information gained from this list.

 

So far, my money is on the NC& StL.  

 

Google NC&StL Railroad Caboose,  http://www.google.com/search?q=NC%26StL+railroad+caboose&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=FeGGUuewPMmziQK2sIBQ&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=970&bih=546, and among the photos that come up is a former NC&StL caboose that,  except for the lack of stirrup steps,  seems to be a pretty fair prototype for the model. Of course, one wonders how a model manufacturer  (pattern maker)  in Los Angeles (then Oregon)  in the forties would come upon such an esoteric prototype. I suspect that these fairly large cabooses were rebuilt from boxcars--??. 

 

I just finished slipping out the neatly-mounted and housed dummy couplers on this model, and slipped in short-shank Kadee scale couplers. Perfect. Now, as to lettering......

 

 

Denny

 

Denny S. Anspach MD

Sacramento, CA 

 

Please note my new eMail address.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: FW&D box car

Tim O'Connor
 

Rupert, thanks!

I now have TWO photos of these cars at that sand house -- the other is 7550.
The cars must have been in locomotive sand service in the 1960's.

Tim O'

This was one of 500 XM-25's numbered 7201-7700 built for FW&D by Mt Vernon
Car Co. in 1922. The CB&Q's identical cars were numbered 15000-16499 built
by Pullman, Mt Vernon and General American (500 cars each).

The BRHS data sheet states that the Sunshine carbody scaled out about 6
inches too low.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

-----Original Message-----

anyone recognize the Burlington class (XM-?) of this box car
and whether it's represented by any Sunshine kits?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321217718515

Tim O'


Re: A nice end shot, but the reporting marks are missing

bierglaeser@...
 

Claus,

That's an early Ajax hand brake and hand wheel.  Notice the center section of the hand wheel - 4 spokes.  Later Ajax hand wheels had 8 spokes.

The first Ajax geared hand brakes were introduced in 1926.

Happy modeling.

Gene Green



---In STMFC@..., <claus@...> wrote:

Hi List Members,

A nice end shot, but the reporting marks are missing. Any thoughts? Interesting the car has a geared hand brake at this early (1936)
date...

http://tinyurl.com/m3v4v72

- Claus Schlund


Re: caboose identification

Steve H <nwicfan@...>
 

I have the official cartoon drawing of the NC&StL caboose and here is what it says:
NC&StL Series: 1 to 20
L&N Series: 305 to 318 (these cars were renumbered into the L&N series after the August 1957 merger)
Class: NE-1
Built By: NC&StL
Date Built: 1916
Built At: West Nashville Shops
Capy: 80,000 LB
Lt Wt: 44,500 LB
Draft Rigging Type: Miner A-18
Roof Type: Tin
Scrapped: August 1, 1968
 
The Tennessee Alabama & Georgia acquired at least 1 type later on.
 
I'll post the two NC&StL pictures that I have of this caboose in the file section. BTW, I had a couple of the Northeastern kits that I put together for a friend and substituted styrene for the wood and it came out great. Used the wood as a "master" and kept the metal parts for the cars.
 
- Steve Hedlund


On Friday, November 15, 2013 8:36 PM, Mitchell Mercante wrote:
 
Attached is a photo of NC&StL 6 in its final paint scheme.

Regards,

Mitch Mercante

On Friday, November 15, 2013 9:21 PM, Denny Anspach wrote:



As always, I delight in the information gained from this list.

So far, my money is on the NC& StL.  

Google NC&StL Railroad Caboose,  http://www.google.com/search?q=NC%26StL+railroad+caboose&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=FeGGUuewPMmziQK2sIBQ&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=970&bih=546, and among the photos that come up is a former NC&StL caboose that,  except for the lack of stirrup steps,  seems to be a pretty fair prototype for the model. Of course, one wonders how a model manufacturer  (pattern maker)  in Los Angeles (then Oregon)  in the forties would come upon such an esoteric prototype. I suspect that these fairly large cabooses were rebuilt from boxcars--??. 

I just finished slipping out the neatly-mounted and housed dummy couplers on this model, and slipped in short-shank Kadee scale couplers. Perfect. Now, as to lettering......
 

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento, CA 

Please note my new eMail address.

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Re: caboose identification

Mitchell Mercante
 

Attached is a photo of NC&StL 6 in its final paint scheme.

Regards,

Mitch Mercante

On Friday, November 15, 2013 9:21 PM, Denny Anspach <danspachmd@gmail.com> wrote:




As always, I delight in the information gained from this list.

So far, my money is on the NC& StL.  

Google NC&StL Railroad Caboose,  http://www.google.com/search?q=NC%26StL+railroad+caboose&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=FeGGUuewPMmziQK2sIBQ&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=970&bih=546, and among the photos that come up is a former NC&StL caboose that,  except for the lack of stirrup steps,  seems to be a pretty fair prototype for the model. Of course, one wonders how a model manufacturer  (pattern maker)  in Los Angeles (then Oregon)  in the forties would come upon such an esoteric prototype. I suspect that these fairly large cabooses were rebuilt from boxcars--??. 

I just finished slipping out the neatly-mounted and housed dummy couplers on this model, and slipped in short-shank Kadee scale couplers. Perfect. Now, as to lettering......
 

Denny


Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento, CA 

Please note my new eMail address.









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