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Re: Opening End Door Boxcars

Steve SANDIFER
 

I would call it a standard practice, so many railroads had auto boxcars with end doors. The list will be long.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:45 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Opening End Door Boxcars

 

Fellas,

I am curious what roads (other than SP) had auto boxcars with opening end doors.   I was searching on google and while I saw model images, I was not able to source any prototypical information or articles.   Any and all relevant info would be appreciated.    I also noticed lionel did various road names; curious if they are actually a scale model as their ps cars are...

With thanks,
Brad Andonian


Opening End Door Boxcars

Brad Andonian
 

Fellas,

I am curious what roads (other than SP) had auto boxcars with opening end doors.   I was searching on google and while I saw model images, I was not able to source any prototypical information or articles.   Any and all relevant info would be appreciated.    I also noticed lionel did various road names; curious if they are actually a scale model as their ps cars are...

With thanks,
Brad Andonian


Re: MKT decals for the yellow boxcars

Bill Hirt <whirt@...>
 

Fenton,

Have you considered Herald King? Their set B-194 does a 40' yellow boxcar with black lettering and their set B-195 does a 40' red boxcar with white lettering. I ordered some a few months ago direct from them and they have them in stock. While most of their sets are mid-late 60's on, they do have a few that fit the time era of this group.

Bill Hirt

On 11/18/2013 10:30 AM, O Fenton Wells wrote:
Maybe Ted is close enough to being back in business to release the MKT decals in black and white as it sounds like a few sets are needed.
Thanks to all who replied
Fenton Wells


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:14 AM, William Darnaby <wdarnaby@...> wrote:
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I have assembled the Speedwitch model but have held off painting it because it has the black decals for the yellow car. The yellow scheme is very iffy for my 1955 railroad and I would prefer white decals on freight car red. Maybe we can work out some kind of trade on this group. I was hoping that Microscale made MKT decals for the 50�s but I don�t see them in the catalog so I am hanging on to my black decals until I have some white ones. My fallback position is a very heavily weathered yellow car.

Bill Darnaby



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To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] MKT decals for the yellow boxcars

Does anyone make MKT decals (black lettering) for the yellow boxcars of the 1040's? I'm not familiar with this road and don't know. Thanks in advance for any help.

Fenton Wells

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Re: DT&I 16000-16199 after rebuilding

Eric Lombard
 

Thanks for alerting me to that reference, Ray. 


Those photos show two of the three configurations for these box cars (as received with 11+ ft inside height with 14-6 door; as rebuilt to 10-3 inside height with 14-6 door). Still looking for a photo as rebuilt 10-3 inside height with 8-9 door opening. Anyone?


Eric Lombard

Homewood, IL



---In stmfc@..., <teabow1958@...> wrote:

The book "Wabash/Nickel Plate/DT&I Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment" published by Morning Sun written by James Kinkaid has images of four of these cars.16081 is shown in the middle of page 97. 16190-H is shown on the bottom of page 97. 16191-H is shown on the top of page 98. The end doors of 16192-H is shown in the middle of page 98.
Ray Thibaut
teabow1958@...


Re: Rocket Express models

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "gary laakso" <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:

My apologies, I did type the wrong reporting marks! My only excuse is decal fumes from decaling 3 Sunshine NP single sheathed boxcars and starting to decal two Rock Island Rocket Express single sheathed boxcars today.

Holy smoke, Gary, were these the two Rocket Express models you began in February 2007 or are you doing some more? On a more serious note, has any one tried to contact Rocket Express of late? On two occasions since seeing their Rock Island box cars a couple of months ago I have emailed the company seeking ordering information on these models. To date there has been no response. Has anyone else had better luck recently? Additionally, does anyone have any comments on the quality and value of the models?

Should anyone be interested I still have a few of the Wright Trak
SAL V-9 and V-10 ventilated box cars available. Anyone interested can contact me off list. Having built one without wishing to go to Bill Welch's extremes with it the results do not seem to vary to any large degree. Will try to post a few photos of it and the next one in progress as time allows. In all respects I find these to be nice kits of a prototype that is both distinctive and interesting.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: MKT 79000 series boxcars

Ken Roth
 

Thanks Richard and Tim.  I was thinking War Emergency too, but I didn't see that MKT had any.  The underframe sounds like a cool variation, which together with the yellow paint job is going to be a must-build for me.



---In STMFC@..., <rhendrickson@...> wrote:

On Nov 18, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Ken, it looks extremely similar to War Emergency box cars. I don't know
what else it could be.

Tim O'Connor

>In Tom Dill's Southern Pacific in Oregon Pictorial, there is a picture on page 46 of a Katy single-sheathed box with 5/5 dreadnaught ends and Youngstown steel door. It appears to be painted in the Yellow scheme (black and white photo, but lettering is clearly black on light body color). I have the 1950 ORER which says the series is 79000-79157. It's a 10'6" ht, 42 foot length. Does anyone know of drawings or a possible starting point for a kit-bash? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ken Roth 

Good call, Tim.  Those 79000 series M-K-T cars had War Emergency single sheathed bodies, but they were rebuilds; the new bodies were installed on 40 ton fish belly center sill underframes salvaged from wood bodied refrigerator cars.  Modeling one would be an interesting - and relatively easy - kitbash using an Intermountain body and the floor and underframe from an Accurail or Tichy box car kit.  I have a photo Ken might find useful and can scan it and send it to him off list.

Richard Hendrickson



Re: MKT 79000 series boxcars

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Nov 18, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Ken, it looks extremely similar to War Emergency box cars. I don't know
what else it could be.

Tim O'Connor

>In Tom Dill's Southern Pacific in Oregon Pictorial, there is a picture on page 46 of a Katy single-sheathed box with 5/5 dreadnaught ends and Youngstown steel door. It appears to be painted in the Yellow scheme (black and white photo, but lettering is clearly black on light body color). I have the 1950 ORER which says the series is 79000-79157. It's a 10'6" ht, 42 foot length. Does anyone know of drawings or a possible starting point for a kit-bash? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ken Roth 

Good call, Tim.  Those 79000 series M-K-T cars had War Emergency single sheathed bodies, but they were rebuilds; the new bodies were installed on 40 ton fish belly center sill underframes salvaged from wood bodied refrigerator cars.  Modeling one would be an interesting - and relatively easy - kitbash using an Intermountain body and the floor and underframe from an Accurail or Tichy box car kit.  I have a photo Ken might find useful and can scan it and send it to him off list.

Richard Hendrickson



Re: MKT 79000 series boxcars

Tim O'Connor
 

Ken, it looks extremely similar to War Emergency box cars. I don't know
what else it could be.

Tim O'Connor

In Tom Dill's Southern Pacific in Oregon Pictorial, there is a picture on page 46 of a Katy single-sheathed box with 5/5 dreadnaught ends and Youngstown steel door. It appears to be painted in the Yellow scheme (black and white photo, but lettering is clearly black on light body color). I have the 1950 ORER which says the series is 79000-79157. It's a 10'6" ht, 42 foot length. Does anyone know of drawings or a possible starting point for a kit-bash? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ken Roth


MKT 79000 series boxcars

Ken Roth
 

In Tom Dill's Southern Pacific in Oregon Pictorial, there is a picture on page 46 of a Katy single-sheathed box with 5/5 dreadnaught ends and Youngstown steel door.  It appears to be painted in the Yellow scheme (black and white photo, but lettering is clearly black on light body color).  I have the 1950 ORER which says the series is 79000-79157.  It's a 10'6" ht, 42 foot length.  Does anyone know of drawings or a possible starting point for a kit-bash?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks, Ken Roth


Re: Tidewater Southern PS-1 decals

Tim O'Connor
 

Steven,

I think you are right. I've never seen a WP car in the number series 36026-36050.
The information I have came from a PS-1 spreadsheet, but I don't know where the info
came from originally.

Tim O'Connor

I don't believe that these cars vacated the TS roster. They are still listed in January 1968 as TS cars. In fact I have seen a couple of these cars on the ground as sheds, there's at least one in Portola (at the high school I think) with TS reporting marks, which to me indicates that they were Tidewater cars to the end.

A new and better set of decals... hmmm that means the cars that I built would have to be redone.

Thanks for the thread.
Steven Bechtold


Re: DT&I 16000-16199 after rebuilding

Ray Thibaut
 

The book "Wabash/Nickel Plate/DT&I Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment" published by Morning Sun written by James Kinkaid has images of four of these cars.16081 is shown in the middle of page 97. 16190-H is shown on the bottom of page 97. 16191-H is shown on the top of page 98. The end doors of 16192-H is shown in the middle of page 98.
Ray Thibaut
teabow1958@...


Re: MKT decals for the yellow boxcars

Clark Propst
 

Gerry Glow offers those decals in both colors. 
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Tidewater Southern PS-1 decals

Steve Bechtold
 

Hi Guys,

 

I don't believe that these cars vacated the TS roster.  They are still listed in January 1968 as TS cars.  In fact I have seen a couple of these cars on the ground as sheds, there's at least one in Portola (at the high school I think) with TS reporting marks, which to me indicates that they were Tidewater cars to the end. 

 

A new and better set of decals... hmmm that means the cars that I built would have to be redone.

 

Thanks for the thread. 

Steven Bechtold

That is a nice looking car.

Hubert Mask

Mask Island Decals

  maskislanddecals.com

has anyone done HO decals for this Tidewater Southern PS-1 box car?  http://www.ebay.com/itm/370909000976"


WTB 1 Champ Decals L48 Modern Gothic letters White 3/32"

Dennis Williams
 

I need to buy 1 set of Champ Decals L48 Modern Gothic Letters in white. These are 3/32". Please contact me off line at pennsy6200@... .

Dennis Williams


Re: Intermountain alt std twin hoppers (UNCLASSIFIED)

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Nov 18, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Jon Miller <atsfus@...> wrote:

OK, which cars are good and which have bogus lettering.  I haven't paid attention to these and of course when the reviews come in all the cars are gone.  I look at the pictures for build dates.
Jon, the Santa Fe Ga-54s are perfect for your 1941 date, as they were built by General American in 1941 and IM’s P/L scheme is the one applied to the cars when built new; thew were the only Santa Fe hopper cars that ever had the herald applied AFAIK.

Richard Hendrickson



Re: Intermountain alt std twin hoppers (UNCLASSIFIED)

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 11/18/2013 11:34 AM, Brian carlson wrote:
Don't feel bad I had approx. two dozen on order since the announcement first came out. I got zero. 
Brian Carlson

    IM seems to have a bad grasp on what will sell and what will not.  I have been waiting for a set of FTs, in original paint, for some time.  It seems they bring out other schemes but guess that the original won't sell (which of course was the first out of stock).
    Do companies note that first out of stock means there is a demand or do they think that means everybody that wanted one got it so therefore not future sales.

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Re: Intermountain alt std twin hoppers (UNCLASSIFIED)

Brian Carlson
 

Don't feel bad I had approx. two dozen on order since the announcement first came out. I got zero. 
Brian Carlson 


On Nov 18, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Jon Miller <atsfus@...> wrote:

 

On 11/18/2013 10:35 AM, Ed Hawkins wrote:
I have just been drooling over this car.

    OK, which cars are good and which have bogus lettering.  I haven't paid attention to these and of course when the reviews come in all the cars are gone.  I look at the pictures for build dates.


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Member SFRH&MS


Re: Intermountain alt std twin hoppers (UNCLASSIFIED)

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 11/18/2013 10:35 AM, Ed Hawkins wrote:
I have just been drooling over this car.

    OK, which cars are good and which have bogus lettering.  I haven't paid attention to these and of course when the reviews come in all the cars are gone.  I look at the pictures for build dates.


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For me time stopped in 1941
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NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Intermountain alt std twin hoppers (UNCLASSIFIED)

Ed Hawkins
 

On Nov 14, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Gatwood, Elden SAW wrote:

I have just been drooling over this car. It has been executed VERY nicely. I love the interior detailing, and the delicacy of the grabs and end details. Kudos to all that have contributed data and photos for IM to work with!

I have been seeing all the discussion going on, on the B&O list, on the ex-C&O cars that went to the B&O, but I was wondering if any of you know if IM intends on doing other variants, for other roads, that aren't on the current list?

I am especially interested in the later versions of the C&O, Erie, Montour (i.e., "MTR"), Shawmut, and P&WV cars. Did any of you send IM photos for those?
Elden,
I echo your comments about the new InterMountain A.M.C. (nee AAR Alternate Standard) hopper car models. In my view the models are exquisite and true to the prototype drawings from which they were derived. Thus far IM has released 16 models having 5 end variants.

After receiving some models on Saturday and taking a look at them, I applaud InterMountain's work and everyone involved in producing the models. The IM product designer did a fantastic job with a very high degree of attention to detail, and the Chinese producer has done an outstanding job executing the design with the tooling, injection molding, assembly, painting, lettering, and packaging. The overall workmanship is exceptional.

In answer to your question about other variants, announcements of any other variants or other lettering schemes must come directly from InterMountain. I know IM has a large number of builder's photos and in-service photos to use for future considerations.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: MKT decals for the yellow boxcars

O Fenton Wells
 

Maybe Ted is close enough to being back in business to release the MKT decals in black and white as it sounds like a few sets are needed.
Thanks to all who replied
Fenton Wells


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:14 AM, William Darnaby <wdarnaby@...> wrote:
 

I have assembled the Speedwitch model but have held off painting it because it has the black decals for the yellow car. The yellow scheme is very iffy for my 1955 railroad and I would prefer white decals on freight car red. Maybe we can work out some kind of trade on this group. I was hoping that Microscale made MKT decals for the 50’s but I don’t see them in the catalog so I am hanging on to my black decals until I have some white ones. My fallback position is a very heavily weathered yellow car.

Bill Darnaby



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of srrfan1401@...
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:08 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] MKT decals for the yellow boxcars

Does anyone make MKT decals (black lettering) for the yellow boxcars of the 1040's? I'm not familiar with this road and don't know. Thanks in advance for any help.

Fenton Wells

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