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Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

Clark Propst
 

Ron,
As was pointed out to me a couple weeks ago. Everything you need to know about those cars is in RPCyc 24.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: USAX box car

Edward
 

It is unlikely any U S Army training with those box cars was done at Rockhill Furnace. Such personnel training would have been done within army facilities.
The cars probably got there after the Army sold them as surplus, or for scrap, which is the reason I think they are there.
If scrap prices can ever rise enough to cover the cost of their demolition and shipping with a bit of profit tossed in on top, they would be cut up and be gone in a heartbeat.
A string of cars sitting like can become an 'attractive nuisance'  to locals with potential liabilities.

Ed Bommer

 



---In STMFC@..., <john.allyn@...> wrote:

This is a topic that's come up before.  If I remember correctly, the Army used these cars to train troops in loading and unloading boxcars. 
Rockhill Furnace seems to be a strange place to train, though.
 
John B. Allyn


From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 4:30:09 PM
Subject: [STMFC] RE: USAX box car

 


John, are these cars genuinely USAX or did they just get painted that
way in Mt Union after coming from the BAR? I have a bunch of photos of
BAR single sheathed box cars -- from your link it looks like the "USAX"
car is identical to my shot of BAR 10226.

Thanks for the info!

Tim O'Connor

>This car is one on the end of the string of them that have been sitting derelict at Mount Union, PA in the EBT yards. Here's a more recent picture of the same car: http://www.spikesys.com/Bin/EBT/22020.jpg
>
>I believe if you asked nicely and had the cash you could even buy one from Kovalchik Salvage.
>
>I know the origin of these cars have been previously discussed on this group. Long story short,
>the cars still have interior markings from their Ex-BAR series.
>
>Regards,
>
>John


Re: USAX box car

john.allyn@...
 

This is a topic that's come up before.  If I remember correctly, the Army used these cars to train troops in loading and unloading boxcars. 
Rockhill Furnace seems to be a strange place to train, though.
 
John B. Allyn


From: "Tim O'Connor"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 4:30:09 PM
Subject: [STMFC] RE: USAX box car

 


John, are these cars genuinely USAX or did they just get painted that
way in Mt Union after coming from the BAR? I have a bunch of photos of
BAR single sheathed box cars -- from your link it looks like the "USAX"
car is identical to my shot of BAR 10226.

Thanks for the info!

Tim O'Connor

>This car is one on the end of the string of them that have been sitting derelict at Mount Union, PA in the EBT yards. Here's a more recent picture of the same car: http://www.spikesys.com/Bin/EBT/22020.jpg
>
>I believe if you asked nicely and had the cash you could even buy one from Kovalchik Salvage.
>
>I know the origin of these cars have been previously discussed on this group. Long story short,
>the cars still have interior markings from their Ex-BAR series.
>
>Regards,
>
>John


Re: First round for those signing up DONE

Greg Martin
 

Just a reminder of who's is who on the sign up list.
 
Another friendly reminder please try to pre-register before the event as it is my understanding that the price goes up at the door this year.
 
Greg Martin

Hey Yuze Gize,
 
Here is the first round of those who have asked to be included in this year's SHAKE N TAKE presentation:
 
  1. Dick Berry
  2. John Greedy
  3. Paul Bizier
  4. Spen Kellogg
  5. Armand Premo
  6. Richard Hendrickson
  7. Mike Smeltzer
  8. Denny Anspach
  9. Larry Lawler
  10. Raymond Smit
  11. Scott Dam
  12. Tony Thompson
  13. Alex Schneider
  14. George Corral
  15. Steve Hile
  16. Larry Sexton
  17. Fenton Well
  18. Craig Zeni
  19. Stuart Forsyth
  20. Roger Hinman
  21. Schuyler Larabee
  22. Greg Snook
Stand By list (6 members)
  1. Mike Brock
  2. chuck Peck
  3. Gene Semon
  4. Charles Hostetler
  5. Matt Herson
  6. Gary  Laasko
We're Full.
 
There will be eight (8) spots available at the registration table for those that arrive and sign up at the door or simply are checking in to pick up your name tag. 3
 
If you are interested in the aftermarket parts and please change the heading and send me an offline email at:
 
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean


Shake N Take Aftermarket List

Greg Martin
 

Gize,
 
Another update...

 
This list is a first for SHAKE N TAKE  it is a list that tracks the necessary over run for the SHAKE N TAKE project. It will help those involved behind the scenes that create the parts for the kits informed so they might be able to help supply part for those interested in kits but couldn't make the show or were not an original recipient of the handout kit. 
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
Aftermarket:
  1. Scott Haycock
  2. Brad Hanner
  3. Rich Christie
  4. Richard Townsend
  5. Philip Blancher
  6. Tom Christensen
  7. Rob Kirkham
  8. Per Harwe
  9. Al Gest
  10. Tom Dill
  11. Tim O' Conner
  12. Paul Greenwald
  13. Mont Switzer
  14. Jerry Glow
  15. Al Brown
  16. John Greedy
  17. Larry Sexton
  18. Paul Bizier (ATSF)
  19. Joe Binish
  20. John Sutkus
  21. Joe Pauley
  22. John Cantlay
  23. William H. Sharpe
  24. John Sharpe
  25. Stan Hall
  26. Larry Rast
  27. Bruce Smith
  28. Matt Herson
  29. John Riddell
  30. Brian Carlson (ATSF)
  31. Rich Orr (4 sets)
 
 


Re: Aftermarket List

Greg Martin
 

Clark,
 
It is not for me to offer the kits up it is up to the contributors to do that. The fellow doing the resin parts is willing to make them as needed and the part will fit on any AAR 1937 car with a bit of trimming. Jim Singer is doing the CNW/CMO decals and the Rock Island Historical Society has the Decals for the Rock car and Microscale has the decals for the Santa Fe car.
 
I received and email from Chas last night and I told him if he feels good about the car them I would go for it ; however, from what I have learned to this point from John Greedy the FtDDM&S car came from the Rock as they had different roofs matching the Rocks. I will learn more when I turn him loose in the presentation. I have also finished the ends for the Santa Fe car and I am working on the ends for the Wabash and Santa Fe 10' 4" cars for the Shake N Take mid tern summer project.
 
There will always be folks who will buy resin kits rather than bash.
 
Are you coming to Cocoa Beach this year? You might want to sit in and get the handout it promises to be a good presentation.
 
Greg
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 12/1/2013 10:27:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cepropst@q.com writes:
 

I’m a bit confused, as usual.
Are you going to offer a complete resin kit for these rebuilt cars in the near future?
I know someone that is researching these very models to offer as a complete resin kit. Should he scrap his plans? Or, will his kit sell? It will cover both the CNW/CMO and RI/FtDDMS cars.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

Greg Martin
 

Ron,
 
I have amassed quiet a few from several private sources for the CNW/CMO, Rock Island, FtDDM&S, and then of course the Santa Fe cars.
 
Are you coming to Cocoa Beach? The handout will have some the SHAKE N TAKE Yahoo Group will have lots more after they are uploaded.
 
 
Everyone who is planing on attending Shake N Take this January please try to pre-register so we have a show of strength to the folks in Registration who get uncomfortable this time of year. Tell them SHAKE N TAKE sent you and your doing your part.
 
Thanks, 
 
Greg Martin   
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 12/1/2013 6:13:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ron.merrick@... writes:
 

Photo suggestions?

Not in the CNW Guide volume 2 and not in rr-fallenflags.

Oh, there's a CNW 65000 car in rr-fallenflags, but not the right one.

I built, almost to the point of being ready for paint, one of the Sunshine kits. The Viking roof was awful, to say the least. I set it aside, and I actually have a spare DPH roof to put on it, so I'd like to resume this after having it sit on the shelf for ten or more years.

I don't know about the fit, but I should use this car as a guinea pig because there are a number of Sunshine kits I have where the roof is the weak point of the kit detail-wise. It never was easy to get those two-piece roofs to look right, in my opinion, and I have plenty of plastic roofs that would work. But I'm also not sure of the era, since a quick check of ORERs shows that the CNW cars may have been dwindling in numbers in 1955 and essentially all gone in 1965.

Ron Merrick

--- In STMFC@..., "William Darnaby" wrote:
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> The Sunshine kits covered CNW cars 65000-67418 (even only) and CMO 37100-37498 (even only). The CMO cars were rebuilt again into the 1658-1844 series and painted green and yellow.
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> I am not familiar with the Sunshine cars so I couldn't answer that. It may not be.
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> Greg Martin
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> Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
> Norman Maclean
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> In a message dated 11/30/2013 6:43:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wdarnaby@... writes:
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> Greg,
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> How is this car different than the 64.xx Sunshine cars?
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> Thanks,
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> Bill Darnaby
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> From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of tgregmrtn@...
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> Subject: [STMFC] 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins
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> Hey Yuze Gize,
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> This is the official announcement for the 2014 Prototype Rails SHAKE N TAKE for our 14th annual event and in the words of our own Mont Switzer a "Bash at the Beach".
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> This year with the help from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops our project will be the 1937 rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed CNW/CMO 40-foot boxcars. The ends will be a composite (resin) from rebuilt Tichy ends (thanks again to Don Tichy) and reproduced by Aaron Gjermundson as well as a drill jig for the hand rails and a fishbelly center sill and crossbearers.
>
> The donated kit comes from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops and will include the correct IMWX 40-forty-foot boxcar with the Viking Roof.
>
> Archer Fine Rivets will contribute the rivet decals that will be needed to recreate a car for the CNW/CMO.
>
> 5th Avenue Car Shops is working on the CNW/CCMO white decals.
>
> Seeing how the ends will be useful for another rebuilt for Rock Island as well as the Ft. Dodge, Des Moines & Southern car SHAKE N TAKE will make available the compete resin parts to reproduce these cars as "aftermarket."
>
> We will also offer in the month following the event (read as mid February) we will offer ends for the Santa Fe's BX28 and BX31 rebuild programs from their owned fleet of USRA Double Sheathed cars.
>
> Jon Greedy will open with the documentation of the CNW/CMO and Rock Island and Ft.D.D.M,& S. cars and Richard Hendrickson will focus on the Santa Fe rebuilt cars.
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> The Aftermarket parts will have a separate sign up sheet.
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> I will post the SIGN UP Sheet and AFTERMARKET Sheet separately.
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> Thank You,
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> Greg Martin
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Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

Benjamin Hom
 

Ron Merrick asked:
"Were any of these CNW [65000-seires] cars sold to RI, as mentioned in the flyer?  When?  And did they get full repaint, rather than patch jobs?"
 
Yes, but leased, not sold.  500 cars were sold to US Railway leasing and leased to Rock Island in 1955 in the RI 38000-series and received full Rock Island paint jobs.  A number of cars were also leased to the Roscoe, Snyder & Pacific in the 1960s.
 
Do not confuse the ex-CNW cars with the Rock Island's own 134000-series rebuilt USRA DS boxcars, which were rebuilt in 1936 and 1940 and featured 10 ft IH, 5/B/5/5 Murphy Ends, 8 Panel Sides, rectangular paneled Roof, 6 ft Youngstown Door.  Some of these cars were leased to FtDDM&S in 1960.
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: box car identity

Clark Propst
 

Chad Boas offers the doors for these cars in HO.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Aftermarket List

Clark Propst
 

I’m a bit confused, as usual.
Are you going to offer a complete resin kit for these rebuilt cars in the near future?
I know someone that is researching these very models to offer as a complete resin kit. Should he scrap his plans? Or, will his kit sell? It will cover both the CNW/CMO and RI/FtDDMS cars.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

mopacfirst
 

As is often the case, if you think about it longer you can answer some of your own questions.

This car kit was reissued. So the first one, which I have, is listed in sunshinekets.com as (Discontinued - very early kit) and the flyer is sun02a.pdf. Some history is given, and a photo of the model but not a prototype photo.

The second issue is also listed, and its flyer is sun64g.pdf. This time there is a photo of the prototype, although not good quality.

But, new questions. Were these cars equipped with vertical staff handbrake when first rebuilt? For CNW in 1937, it would seem likely. Did they keep same? The CMO cars were noted for being rebuilt again, and having the brakestaff replaced with a power handbrake.

Were any of these CNW cars sold to RI, as mentioned in the flyer? When? And did they get full repaint, rather than patch jobs?

Ron Merrick

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "mopacfirst" <ron.merrick@...> wrote:

Photo suggestions?

Not in the CNW Guide volume 2 and not in rr-fallenflags.

Oh, there's a CNW 65000 car in rr-fallenflags, but not the right one.

I built, almost to the point of being ready for paint, one of the Sunshine kits. The Viking roof was awful, to say the least. I set it aside, and I actually have a spare DPH roof to put on it, so I'd like to resume this after having it sit on the shelf for ten or more years.

I don't know about the fit, but I should use this car as a guinea pig because there are a number of Sunshine kits I have where the roof is the weak point of the kit detail-wise. It never was easy to get those two-piece roofs to look right, in my opinion, and I have plenty of plastic roofs that would work. But I'm also not sure of the era, since a quick check of ORERs shows that the CNW cars may have been dwindling in numbers in 1955 and essentially all gone in 1965.

Ron Merrick


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "William Darnaby" <wdarnaby@> wrote:

The Sunshine kits covered CNW cars 65000-67418 (even only) and CMO 37100-37498 (even only). The CMO cars were rebuilt again into the 1658-1844 series and painted green and yellow.



Bill Darnaby








Bill,



I am not familiar with the Sunshine cars so I couldn't answer that. It may not be.



Greg Martin



Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean



In a message dated 11/30/2013 6:43:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wdarnaby@ writes:



Greg,

How is this car different than the 64.xx Sunshine cars?

Thanks,

Bill Darnaby

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tgregmrtn@
Sent: S aturday, November 30, 2013 8:23 PM
To: Shake_N_Take@yahoogroups.com; STMFC@yahoogroups.com; RPM-forum@yahoogroups.com; prr-modeling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins







Hey Yuze Gize,

This is the official announcement for the 2014 Prototype Rails SHAKE N TAKE for our 14th annual event and in the words of our own Mont Switzer a "Bash at the Beach".

This year with the help from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops our project will be the 1937 rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed CNW/CMO 40-foot boxcars. The ends will be a composite (resin) from rebuilt Tichy ends (thanks again to Don Tichy) and reproduced by Aaron Gjermundson as well as a drill jig for the hand rails and a fishbelly center sill and crossbearers.

The donated kit comes from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops and will include the correct IMWX 40-forty-foot boxcar with the Viking Roof.

Archer Fine Rivets will contribute the rivet decals that will be needed to recreate a car for the CNW/CMO.

5th Avenue Car Shops is working on the CNW/CCMO white decals.

Seeing how the ends will be useful for another rebuilt for Rock Island as well as the Ft. Dodge, Des Moines & Southern car SHAKE N TAKE will make available the compete resin parts to reproduce these cars as "aftermarket."

We will also offer in the month following the event (read as mid February) we will offer ends for the Santa Fe's BX28 and BX31 rebuild programs from their owned fleet of USRA Double Sheathed cars.

Jon Greedy will open with the documentation of the CNW/CMO and Rock Island and Ft.D.D.M,& S. cars and Richard Hendrickson will focus on the Santa Fe rebuilt cars.

The Aftermarket parts will have a separate sign up sheet.

I will post the SIGN UP Sheet and AFTERMARKET Sheet separately.


Thank You,

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean










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Re: box car identity

Clark Propst
 

I’d like to make it clear that the timeline info from my article was provided by Gene Green. I credited him in the article. I just build models, Gene is the keeper of the prototype data.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

mopacfirst
 

Photo suggestions?

Not in the CNW Guide volume 2 and not in rr-fallenflags.

Oh, there's a CNW 65000 car in rr-fallenflags, but not the right one.

I built, almost to the point of being ready for paint, one of the Sunshine kits. The Viking roof was awful, to say the least. I set it aside, and I actually have a spare DPH roof to put on it, so I'd like to resume this after having it sit on the shelf for ten or more years.

I don't know about the fit, but I should use this car as a guinea pig because there are a number of Sunshine kits I have where the roof is the weak point of the kit detail-wise. It never was easy to get those two-piece roofs to look right, in my opinion, and I have plenty of plastic roofs that would work. But I'm also not sure of the era, since a quick check of ORERs shows that the CNW cars may have been dwindling in numbers in 1955 and essentially all gone in 1965.

Ron Merrick

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "William Darnaby" <wdarnaby@...> wrote:

The Sunshine kits covered CNW cars 65000-67418 (even only) and CMO 37100-37498 (even only). The CMO cars were rebuilt again into the 1658-1844 series and painted green and yellow.



Bill Darnaby








Bill,



I am not familiar with the Sunshine cars so I couldn't answer that. It may not be.



Greg Martin



Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean



In a message dated 11/30/2013 6:43:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wdarnaby@... writes:



Greg,

How is this car different than the 64.xx Sunshine cars?

Thanks,

Bill Darnaby

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tgregmrtn@...
Sent: S aturday, November 30, 2013 8:23 PM
To: Shake_N_Take@yahoogroups.com; STMFC@yahoogroups.com; RPM-forum@yahoogroups.com; prr-modeling@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins







Hey Yuze Gize,

This is the official announcement for the 2014 Prototype Rails SHAKE N TAKE for our 14th annual event and in the words of our own Mont Switzer a "Bash at the Beach".

This year with the help from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops our project will be the 1937 rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed CNW/CMO 40-foot boxcars. The ends will be a composite (resin) from rebuilt Tichy ends (thanks again to Don Tichy) and reproduced by Aaron Gjermundson as well as a drill jig for the hand rails and a fishbelly center sill and crossbearers.

The donated kit comes from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops and will include the correct IMWX 40-forty-foot boxcar with the Viking Roof.

Archer Fine Rivets will contribute the rivet decals that will be needed to recreate a car for the CNW/CMO.

5th Avenue Car Shops is working on the CNW/CCMO white decals.

Seeing how the ends will be useful for another rebuilt for Rock Island as well as the Ft. Dodge, Des Moines & Southern car SHAKE N TAKE will make available the compete resin parts to reproduce these cars as "aftermarket."

We will also offer in the month following the event (read as mid February) we will offer ends for the Santa Fe's BX28 and BX31 rebuild programs from their owned fleet of USRA Double Sheathed cars.

Jon Greedy will open with the documentation of the CNW/CMO and Rock Island and Ft.D.D.M,& S. cars and Richard Hendrickson will focus on the Santa Fe rebuilt cars.

The Aftermarket parts will have a separate sign up sheet.

I will post the SIGN UP Sheet and AFTERMARKET Sheet separately.


Thank You,

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean










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Aftermarket List

Greg Martin
 

Gize,
 
This list is a first for SHAKE N TAKE  it is a list that tracks the necessary over run for the SHAKE N TAKE project. It will help those involved behind the scenes that create the parts for the kits informed so they might be able to help supply part for those interested in kits but couldn't make the show or were not an original recipient of the handout kit. 
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
Aftermarket:
  1. Scott Haycock
  2. Brad Hanner
  3. Rich Christie
  4. Richard Townsend
  5. Philip Blancher
  6. Tom Christensen
  7. Rob Kirkham
  8. Per Harwe
  9. Al Gest
  10. Tom Dill
  11. Tim O' Conner
  12. Paul Greenwald
  13. Clark Propst
  14. Jerry Glow
  15. Al Brown
 
 


Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

Tim O'Connor
 


Not to mention two of Sunshine's earliest kits, 2.2 (box car red)
and 2.4 (green & yellow).

Still, I am interested in the Santa Fe and especially the FDDM&S cars,
so I look forward to parts and decals that will enable me to model those.

Tim O'Connor


  > The Sunshine kits covered CNW cars 65000-67418 (even only) and
    CMO 37100-37498 (even only). The CMO cars were rebuilt again into
    the 1658-1844 series and painted green and yellow.
    Bill Darnaby



This is the official announcement for the 2014 Prototype Rails SHAKE N TAKE for our 14th annual event and in the words of our own Mont Switzer a "Bash at the Beach".
This year with the help from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops our project will be the  1937 rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed CNW/CMO 40-foot boxcars. The ends will be a composite (resin) from rebuilt Tichy ends (thanks again to Don Tichy) and reproduced by Aaron Gjermundson as well as a drill jig for the hand rails and a fishbelly center sill and crossbearers. 
The donated kit comes from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops and will include the correct IMWX 40-forty-foot boxcar with the Viking Roof.
Archer Fine Rivets will contribute the rivet decals that will be needed to recreate a car for the CNW/CMO.
5th Avenue Car Shops is working on the CNW/CCMO white decals.
Seeing how the ends will be useful for another rebuilt for Rock Island as well as the Ft. Dodge, Des Moines & Southern car SHAKE N TAKE will make available the compete resin parts to reproduce these cars as "aftermarket."
We will also offer in the month following the event (read as mid February) we will offer ends for the Santa Fe's BX28 and BX31 rebuild programs from their owned fleet of USRA Double Sheathed cars.
Jon Greedy will open with the documentation of the CNW/CMO and Rock Island and Ft.D.D.M,& S. cars and Richard Hendrickson will focus on the Santa Fe rebuilt cars.
The Aftermarket parts will have a separate sign up sheet.
I will post the SIGN UP Sheet and AFTERMARKET Sheet separately.

Thank You,
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean




 



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First round for those signing up DONE

Greg Martin
 

Hey Yuze Gize,
 
Here is the first round of those who have asked to be included in this year's SHAKE N TAKE presentation:
 
  1. Dick Berry
  2. John Greedy
  3. Paul Bizier
  4. Spen Kellogg
  5. Armand Premo
  6. Richard Hendrickson
  7. Mike Smeltzer
  8. Denny Anspach
  9. Larry Lawler
  10. Raymond Smit
  11. Scott Dam
  12. Tony Thompson
  13. Alex Schneider
  14. George Corral
  15. Steve Hile
  16. Larry Sexton
  17. Fenton Well
  18. Craig Zeni
  19. Stuart Forsyth
  20. Roger Hinman
  21. John Sutkus
  22. Greg Snook
Stand By list (6 members)
  1. Mike Brock
  2. chuck Peck
  3. Gene Semon
  4. Charles Hostetler
  5. Matt Herson
  6. Gary  Laasko
We're Full.
 
There will be eight (8) spots available at the registration table for those that arrive and sign up at the door or simply are checking in to pick up your name tag. 3
 
If you are interested in the aftermarket parts and please change the heading and send me an offline email at:
 
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean


Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

Rich C
 

Bill, I had a few of those in the "early" Sunshine kits, that I never built. The resin was so bad that they basically disintegrated, so I salvaged a few parts and tossed them.

Rich


On Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:16 PM, William Darnaby wrote:
 
The Sunshine kits covered CNW cars 65000-67418 (even only) and CMO 37100-37498 (even only).  The CMO cars were rebuilt again into the 1658-1844 series and painted green and yellow.
 
Bill Darnaby
 



Bill,
 
I am not familiar with the Sunshine cars so I couldn't answer that. It may not be.
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
In a message dated 11/30/2013 6:43:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wdarnaby@... writes:
 
Greg,
How is this car different than the 64.xx Sunshine cars?
Thanks,
Bill Darnaby
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Hey Yuze Gize,
This is the official announcement for the 2014 Prototype Rails SHAKE N TAKE for our 14th annual event and in the words of our own Mont Switzer a "Bash at the Beach".
This year with the help from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops our project will be the  1937 rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed CNW/CMO 40-foot boxcars. The ends will be a composite (resin) from rebuilt Tichy ends (thanks again to Don Tichy) and reproduced by Aaron Gjermundson as well as a drill jig for the hand rails and a fishbelly center sill and crossbearers.  
The donated kit comes from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops and will include the correct IMWX 40-forty-foot boxcar with the Viking Roof.
Archer Fine Rivets will contribute the rivet decals that will be needed to recreate a car for the CNW/CMO. 
5th Avenue Car Shops is working on the CNW/CCMO white decals.
Seeing how the ends will be useful for another rebuilt for Rock Island as well as the Ft. Dodge, Des Moines & Southern car SHAKE N TAKE will make available the compete resin parts to reproduce these cars as "aftermarket."
We will also offer in the month following the event (read as mid February) we will offer ends for the Santa Fe's BX28 and BX31 rebuild programs from their owned fleet of USRA Double Sheathed cars.
Jon Greedy will open with the documentation of the CNW/CMO and Rock Island and Ft.D.D.M,& S. cars and Richard Hendrickson will focus on the Santa Fe rebuilt cars.
The Aftermarket parts will have a separate sign up sheet.
I will post the SIGN UP Sheet and AFTERMARKET Sheet separately.

Thank You,
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean




 

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Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

Greg Martin
 

Bill.

Very same cars. We will not be doing the Green and Yellow CMO (2nd) rebuilds.
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 11/30/2013 7:16:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wdarnaby@... writes:
 

The Sunshine kits covered CNW cars 65000-67418 (even only) and CMO 37100-37498 (even only).  The CMO cars were rebuilt again into the 1658-1844 series and painted green and yellow.

Bill Darnaby




Bill,

I am not familiar with the Sunshine cars so I couldn't answer that. It may not be.

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

In a message dated 11/30/2013 6:43:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wdarnaby@... writes:

 

Greg,

How is this car different than the 64.xx Sunshine cars?

Thanks,

Bill Darnaby

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Hey Yuze Gize,

This is the official announcement for the 2014 Prototype Rails SHAKE N TAKE for our 14th annual event and in the words of our own Mont Switzer a "Bash at the Beach".

This year with the help from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops our project will be the  1937 rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed CNW/CMO 40-foot boxcars. The ends will be a composite (resin) from rebuilt Tichy ends (thanks again to Don Tichy) and reproduced by Aaron Gjermundson as well as a drill jig for the hand rails and a fishbelly center sill and crossbearers.  

The donated kit comes from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops and will include the correct IMWX 40-forty-foot boxcar with the Viking Roof.

Archer Fine Rivets will contribute the rivet decals that will be needed to recreate a car for the CNW/CMO. 

5th Avenue Car Shops is working on the CNW/CCMO white decals.

Seeing how the ends will be useful for another rebuilt for Rock Island as well as the Ft. Dodge, Des Moines & Southern car SHAKE N TAKE will make available the compete resin parts to reproduce these cars as "aftermarket."

We will also offer in the month following the event (read as mid February) we will offer ends for the Santa Fe's BX28 and BX31 rebuild programs from their owned fleet of USRA Double Sheathed cars.

Jon Greedy will open with the documentation of the CNW/CMO and Rock Island and Ft.D.D.M,& S. cars and Richard Hendrickson will focus on the Santa Fe rebuilt cars.

The Aftermarket parts will have a separate sign up sheet.

I will post the SIGN UP Sheet and AFTERMARKET Sheet separately.


Thank You,

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean






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Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

william darnaby
 

The Sunshine kits covered CNW cars 65000-67418 (even only) and CMO 37100-37498 (even only).  The CMO cars were rebuilt again into the 1658-1844 series and painted green and yellow.

 

Bill Darnaby

 




Bill,

 

I am not familiar with the Sunshine cars so I couldn't answer that. It may not be.

 

Greg Martin

 

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

 

In a message dated 11/30/2013 6:43:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wdarnaby@... writes:

 

Greg,

How is this car different than the 64.xx Sunshine cars?

Thanks,

Bill Darnaby

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Subject: [STMFC] 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins





Hey Yuze Gize,

This is the official announcement for the 2014 Prototype Rails SHAKE N TAKE for our 14th annual event and in the words of our own Mont Switzer a "Bash at the Beach".

This year with the help from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops our project will be the  1937 rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed CNW/CMO 40-foot boxcars. The ends will be a composite (resin) from rebuilt Tichy ends (thanks again to Don Tichy) and reproduced by Aaron Gjermundson as well as a drill jig for the hand rails and a fishbelly center sill and crossbearers.  

The donated kit comes from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops and will include the correct IMWX 40-forty-foot boxcar with the Viking Roof.

Archer Fine Rivets will contribute the rivet decals that will be needed to recreate a car for the CNW/CMO. 

5th Avenue Car Shops is working on the CNW/CCMO white decals.

Seeing how the ends will be useful for another rebuilt for Rock Island as well as the Ft. Dodge, Des Moines & Southern car SHAKE N TAKE will make available the compete resin parts to reproduce these cars as "aftermarket."

We will also offer in the month following the event (read as mid February) we will offer ends for the Santa Fe's BX28 and BX31 rebuild programs from their owned fleet of USRA Double Sheathed cars.

Jon Greedy will open with the documentation of the CNW/CMO and Rock Island and Ft.D.D.M,& S. cars and Richard Hendrickson will focus on the Santa Fe rebuilt cars.

The Aftermarket parts will have a separate sign up sheet.

I will post the SIGN UP Sheet and AFTERMARKET Sheet separately.


Thank You,

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean





 


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Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

Greg Martin
 

Rich,
 
Not likely as we have gone over this offline and matching the green and making it opaque enough and the same for the yellow is just not in the cards.
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 11/30/2013 7:09:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rhcdmc@... writes:
 

Greg, Hopefully someone will make a decal set for the CMO yellow & green version.

Rich Christie

ps - looking forward to this one. I already have a DPH Viking roof in my spares


On Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:03 PM, "tgregmrtn@..." <tgregmrtn@...> wrote:
 
Bill,
 
I am not familiar with the Sunshine cars so I couldn't answer that. It may not be.
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
In a message dated 11/30/2013 6:43:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wdarnaby@... writes:
 
Greg,
How is this car different than the 64.xx Sunshine cars?
Thanks,
Bill Darnaby
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of tgregmrtn@...
Sent: S aturday, November 30, 2013 8:23 PM
To: Shake_N_Take@...; STMFC@...; RPM-forum@...; prr-modeling@...
Subject: [STMFC] 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins



Hey Yuze Gize,
This is the official announcement for the 2014 Prototype Rails SHAKE N TAKE for our 14th annual event and in the words of our own Mont Switzer a "Bash at the Beach".
This year with the help from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops our project will be the  1937 rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed CNW/CMO 40-foot boxcars. The ends will be a composite (resin) from rebuilt Tichy ends (thanks again to Don Tichy) and reproduced by Aaron Gjermundson as well as a drill jig for the hand rails and a fishbelly center sill and crossbearers.  
The donated kit comes from Des Plaines Hobbies/Centraila Shops and will include the correct IMWX 40-forty-foot boxcar with the Viking Roof.
Archer Fine Rivets will contribute the rivet decals that will be needed to recreate a car for the CNW/CMO. 
5th Avenue Car Shops is working on the CNW/CCMO white decals.
Seeing how the ends will be useful for another rebuilt for Rock Island as well as the Ft. Dodge, Des Moines & Southern car SHAKE N TAKE will make available the compete resin parts to reproduce these cars as "aftermarket."
We will also offer in the month following the event (read as mid February) we will offer ends for the Santa Fe's BX28 and BX31 rebuild programs from their owned fleet of USRA Double Sheathed cars.
Jon Greedy will open with the documentation of the CNW/CMO and Rock Island and Ft.D.D.M,& S. cars and Richard Hendrickson will focus on the Santa Fe rebuilt cars.
The Aftermarket parts will have a separate sign up sheet.
I will post the SIGN UP Sheet and AFTERMARKET Sheet separately.

Thank You,
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean






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