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Re: C&BT reefer roof

Andy Sperandeo
 

And it's too wide. – Andy


From: "SUVCWORR@..."
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] C&BT reefer roof

 
It sits too high off the sides

Rich Orr



-----Original Message-----
From: ed_mines
To: STMFC
Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2013 4:22 pm
Subject: [STMFC] C&BT reefer roof



What was the objection to the roof in the first place?
 
Ed Mines





Re: C&BT reefer roof

SUVCWORR@...
 

It sits too high off the sides

Rich Orr



-----Original Message-----
From: ed_mines
To: STMFC
Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2013 4:22 pm
Subject: [STMFC] C&BT reefer roof



What was the objection to the roof in the first place?
 
Ed Mines



C&BT reefer roof

ed_mines
 

What was the objection to the roof in the first place?

 

Ed Mines


Red Caboose kits

ed_mines
 

Anyone have some of the that they'd like to get rid of?

 

Would also buy Q'Craft/Ambroid caboose kits at a good price.

 

Please contact me off list.

 

Ed Mines


Re: new C&BT reefers

SUVCWORR@...
 

The hardware has been redone.  No changes to the roof.

Rich Orr



-----Original Message-----
From: ed_mines
To: STMFC
Sent: Fri, Dec 6, 2013 4:13 pm
Subject: [STMFC] new C&BT reefers



Do the new C&BT reefer kits have an improved roof? Reefer hardware?
 
Ed Mines



new C&BT reefers

ed_mines
 

Do the new C&BT reefer kits have an improved roof? Reefer hardware?

 

Ed Mines


Question IM aar alt. hopper

jon miller <atsfus@...>
 

While putting in .088 wheelsets in the trucks I noticed a thin washer on the truck mounting booster and the screws were not tight. Thought this was to shim up the coupler but with other cars the hopper seems high. Has anyone else noticed this.

--

Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Tru-color paint

 

For those not close to a LHS, Tru Color paints can be purchased over the phone or by email:

http://www.trucolorpaint.com/


Re: SAL ventilated box cars.

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

Hello folks,

Our stock of SAL ventilated box cars is diminishing. While more will be ordered when current stock gets down to one each of the Class V-9 and V-10 vents it took several months to receive those that arrived
in our last order from Wright Trak....and piecemeal at that. Thus anyone interested in these interesting and common prototypes who wishes to have one now, before present stock is depleted, needs to order soon. As noted previously, the kits are $50 each plus $5 for shipping. To date all orders for them have been shipped within 24 hours. There are excellent photos of the model and Bill Welch's comments on building them on the resin car builders group Yahoo site. We hope tp have some of the Wright Trak gondolas available right after the first of the year as well.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: CNW/CMO/RockIsland resin kits

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Does the Accurail floor represent a USRA design, or was this floor just
used as a common component for Accurail composite box cars, of which the
first was a single sheathed non-USRA design?


Tim O'Connor

Tim,

The Accurail fishbelly underframe is a model of the USRA design... no matter what it was initially used for, it was obvious that this design would be most useful for cars of this period.

It's been a long time, but as I recall the design work was done from the detailed underframe drawings in the 1919 CBC, which, IIRC represented the USRA refer frame, but the only real difference was the width over the side sills, which was tweaked to fit the requirements of the plastic bodies anyway.

Dennis Storzek
Accurail, Inc





>I added photos of my new kit. It's for the CNW / CMO and Rock Island box cars.
>Its the same as the Shake and Take, just a different way to get there.
>
>The kit comes with the sides, ends and lower side sills to do either the CNW / CMO,
>or the Rock Island. To finish the car you will need a roof, either Vicking or panel,
>Intermountain doors from the '37 cars, Accurail fish belly floor and al the other
>small details.
>
>Kits are $18 each.
>
>If interested, please contact me Off List.
>
>Thanks, Chad Boas


Re: CNW/CMO/RockIsland resin kits

Chad Boas
 

The rivet heads on the side sills in pictures match up with the Accurail cross members. Also, the truck centers on the CNW are 31'1"  which match the bolsters on the frame.

Chad Boas


Re: CNW/CMO/RockIsland resin kits

Tim O'Connor
 

This is not directed at Chad or Shake-N-Take, but does anyone here know
for sure:

Does the Accurail floor represent a USRA design, or was this floor just
used as a common component for Accurail composite box cars, of which the
first was a single sheathed non-USRA design?

I only bring this up because some of the Sunshine cars (e.g. SP B-50-12A)
had errors in their underframes because they were not accurate renditions
of USRA underframes. I only learned that after building mine and then when
I visited Byron Rose he showed his totally rebuilt B-50-12A floor... I know
lots of folks are indifferent about underframes, but it's just one of those
things I need to know, even if I ignore it. (We can't all be Jack Spencer or
Byron Rose. :-))

Tim O'Connor

I added photos of my new kit. It's for the CNW / CMO and Rock Island box cars.
Its the same as the Shake and Take, just a different way to get there.

The kit comes with the sides, ends and lower side sills to do either the CNW / CMO,
or the Rock Island. To finish the car you will need a roof, either Vicking or panel,
Intermountain doors from the '37 cars, Accurail fish belly floor and al the other
small details.

Kits are $18 each.

If interested, please contact me Off List.

Thanks, Chad Boas


CNW / CMO / Rock Island resin kits

Chad Boas
 

Hi all,
I added photos of my new kit. It's for the CNW / CMO and Rock Island box cars. Its the same as the Shake and Take, just a different way to get there.
The kit comes with the sides, ends and lower side sills to do either the CNW / CMO, or the Rock Island. To finish the car you will need a roof, either Vicking or panel, Intermountain doors from the '37 cars, Accurail fish belly floor and al the other small details.
Kits are $18 each.
If interested, please contact me Off List.
Thanks, Chad Boas


Re: Reading NMn caboose photos

Bruce Smith
 

Bill,

All of the shots of READING cabooses in the the red/chocolate scheme in the RDG Color Guide have yellow railings and grab irons.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of Bill Lane [bill@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:09 PM
To: members@...
Cc: rdg-rr@...; Steam Era Freight cars
Subject: [STMFC] Reading NMn caboose photos

I have a few Reading NMn caboose photos on line.

I got the number series and some other info from my friend John Hall. I am trying to keep the paint job simple. John said the roofs could be red which I like. I hate masking!  Were all the railings and grab irons yellow at all times?

 

If you have any other photos please send them to me directly.

 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

 

See my layout progress at:

http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Mode! ling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

 




FS: Branchline Blueprint Kits

Jason C
 

All items are unbuilt unless noted.   Buyer to pay shipping from 46774.  Please respond off-list with the items you are interested in with your name and a ZIP code so I can calculate postage.  I accept PayPal, Checks, or Money Orders and ship Internationally.  No trades please.


All of these kits are unbuilt and in their original boxes.  All kits are $10.00 each


50' AAR Boxcar - 8' Door, Riveted Side

1002    Erie #63143    Built 1954 - Delivery Scheme
1020    GAEX #100012 General American - Evans  Built 1951, delivery scheme dark green, yellow lettering
2004    Lehigh Valley #8669  Built 1956 - Delivery Scheme
9014    Pennsylvania #604612  Built 1951 - Class X44 - 1955 Repaint, Shadow Keystone - Special Edition


50' AAR DOUBLE DOOR BOXCAR

1114    Erie #65500  Built 1955 - Delivery Scheme
1114    Erie #65672  Built 1955 - Delivery Scheme


50' PLUG DOOR BOXCAR - STANDARD STYLE

1701   Chesapeak & Ohio #5500  Built 1960 - Delivery Scheme yellow/black ends
1714   Union Pacific #499036 - Built 1955 - B-50-45 Delivery Scheme orange/black ends
1717   Pennsylvania #21007 Built 1959 - Class X53 Delivery Scheme - Second Run, New Numbers
1717   Pennsylvania #21298 Built 1959 - Class X53 Delivery Scheme - Second Run, New Numbers




Thank you,
Jason Cook









Re: Tru-color paint

Alexander Schneider Jr
 

Al's Hobby Shop in Elmhurst IL has a rack of this paint, as does Des Plaines Hobbies. Not that I'm suggesting you drive to the Chicago area, but Tru-Color seems to be filling the shelf space abandoned by Floquil and Pollyscale.
 
Alex Schneider

From: "cepropst@q.com"
To: STMFC
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:42 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Tru-color paint



I finally squirted some Tru-color paint yesterday. I bought a bottle of some UP freight car color from a vendor last summer at the St Louis RPM meet thinking it would be a redder hue than most. Yesterday I airbrushed it on the underside of one of two Pennsy X29s I’d just finished, thinking it might look ok on them. I was surprised to see that the color looked just like the color of a UP box car  :  )) Much browner than I was thinking it look. The stuff sprayed well right out of the bottle with a nice gloss and cleaned up with acetone.
Of course I didn’t spray the rest of the cars with that color, but now that I’ve tried it I will be buying more. Hopefully I can find a vendor before the St Louis meet....
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa





Re: Movement of Naval Rifles - and more

Armand Premo
 

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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Brock
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Movement of Naval Rifles - and more

 

Ben Hom writes:

"Despite two subsequent naval treaties in the 1930s, once it became obvious
that WWII was on the horizon, all of the major powers restarted battleship
construction in earnest, even though subsequent events would prove them
obsolescent."

Certainly Ben is correct if one refers to the battleship as the "main man"
in naval operations, this function having transferred to the carrier even
before WW2 in more "enlightened" thinking. However, I would not refer to
them as obsolescent if taken literally. The battleship was still the weapon
of choice in support of invasions from sea on hostile shores. Add to that,
by 1944, thanks to the proximity fuse in fast firing 5" DP guns and the
previously mentioned 40mm gun, the battleship provided a feeling of comfort
to carrier anti aircraft ops.

Anyone can reply to that but afterwards it is time to move back into the
group's subject matter...steam era frt cars. Thanks.

Mike Brock


Tru-color paint

Clark Propst
 

I finally squirted some Tru-color paint yesterday. I bought a bottle of some UP freight car color from a vendor last summer at the St Louis RPM meet thinking it would be a redder hue than most. Yesterday I airbrushed it on the underside of one of two Pennsy X29s I’d just finished, thinking it might look ok on them. I was surprised to see that the color looked just like the color of a UP box car  :  )) Much browner than I was thinking it look. The stuff sprayed well right out of the bottle with a nice gloss and cleaned up with acetone.
Of course I didn’t spray the rest of the cars with that color, but now that I’ve tried it I will be buying more. Hopefully I can find a vendor before the St Louis meet....
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Reading NMn caboose photos

Bill Lane
 

I have a few Reading NMn caboose photos on line.

 

I got the number series and some other info from my friend John Hall. I am trying to keep the paint job simple. John said the roofs could be red which I like. I hate masking!  Were all the railings and grab irons yellow at all times?

 

If you have any other photos please send them to me directly.

 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

 

See my layout progress at:

http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

 


Re: Movement of Naval Rifles - and more

rick@...
 

As a former battleship sailor, I'll reply to that. I served aboard the USS Iowa from 6/85 to 12/89. I was a technician in Guided Missile Div., Weapons Dept. There is no weapon on earth like those 16" guns. The ability to stand offshore 20 miles and deliver 1900-2700# projectiles at 2500 FPS, capable of penetrating and destroying hard targets like bunkers, steel mills, bridges, etc, one after the other for days or weeks if necessary, is unmatched. With good spotting by radar or aircraft, we destroyed truck-size targets from over the horizon during gunnery exercises. It is only since the Iraq and Afghanistan wars that effective modern bunker-buster aerial bombs have been developed, and it would take many aircraft sorties to deliver the hundreds of tons of ordnance carried in a battleship's magazines.That is the primary reason the Iowa-class ships were recommissioned in the 1980's. At that time, they  also became cruise missile platforms.


Barrel life in large naval guns is not limited to a fixed number of rounds. The type of projectile and propellant charge determine the barrel wear per shot. When firing at shorter ranges, for example, reduced charges are used, which cause less barrel erosion. The determination to replace was made by gauging the actual wear in each barrel.


And for required freight car content, I recall steaming up the York River to take on ammunition at the NWS Yorktown. Ammo was brought to the pier by GE switchers toting ancient but immaculate non-interchange USN (steam-era) boxcars that never left the base. Unfortunately no photos were allowed.


Most Navy floating cranes are barge-mounted, and have numbers rather than names. When the Iowa was based at Norfolk, the nearby naval shipyard in Portsmouth, VA was our repair depot. For a job like changing gun barrels, the large pier-side cranes in the shipyard would be the preferred tool. We sometimes onloaded things like Tomahawk missiles or heavy transmitter parts from a crane bobbing alongside, and even in the calm of the harbor, it was spooky and dangerous.


Thanks for stimulating these memories, I've enjoyed following the conversation.

Rick Aylsworth

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