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Re: CNW/CMO/RockIsland resin kits

Rich C
 

Tim, They were leased from the RI in the early 60's.

I too am interested in one, hopefully someone we know will be making the decals for most of them.

Rich Christie


On Sunday, December 8, 2013 4:19 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
 

Chad are you going to be putting kits or set of parts together? Personally
I am very interested in the FDDM&S cars -- I'm not clear on where these came
from, either CNW or RI?

I'm also very interested in Muncie & Western cars (not sure, could be from
RI or someone else). But no one has mentioned those.

Tim O'Connor

>The rivet heads on the side sills in pictures match up with the Accurail cross members.
>Also, the truck centers on the CNW are 31'1" which match the bolsters on the frame.
>
>Chad Boas




Re: Pennsy hide car

Tim O'Connor
 


now, now, Richard, be nice to the PRR fans. I do have shots of freshly
painted PRR X29's in the Shadow Keystone scheme in the 1950's. And some
were repainted in the later simplified Keystone scheme.

My favorite hide service photo is a KCS box car on which someone spray
painted onto the door "DO NOT OPEN"!

Tim O'Connor




I�m about to decal a X29 that I have documentation on carrying hides.
 
Did the Pennsy use any special stenciling to indicate car usage?

Clark, by the time you�re modeling, all the X29s looked like they were in hide service.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: CNW/CMO/RockIsland resin kits

Tim O'Connor
 

Chad are you going to be putting kits or set of parts together? Personally
I am very interested in the FDDM&S cars -- I'm not clear on where these came
from, either CNW or RI?

I'm also very interested in Muncie & Western cars (not sure, could be from
RI or someone else). But no one has mentioned those.

Tim O'Connor

The rivet heads on the side sills in pictures match up with the Accurail cross members.
Also, the truck centers on the CNW are 31'1" which match the bolsters on the frame.

Chad Boas


Re: Pennsy hide car

FRANK PEACOCK
 

Clark,  The UP stenciled "HIDE LOADING ONLY" plus routing information on their cars, at least when I began taking photos in the 1960's.  I assume all RR's did this in the time of this list, but if you got downwind of one of them you knew what they were or had been carrying.  FHP


To: STMFC@...
From: rhendrickson@...
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 12:57:40 -0800
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Pennsy hide car

 
On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:57 AM, cepropst@q.com wrote:



I’m about to decal a X29 that I have documentation on carrying hides.
 
Did the Pennsy use any special stenciling to indicate car usage?

Clark, by the time you’re modeling, all the X29s looked like they were in hide service.


Richard Hendrickson



Re: Pennsy hide car

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:57 AM, cepropst@q.com wrote:


I’m about to decal a X29 that I have documentation on carrying hides.
 
Did the Pennsy use any special stenciling to indicate car usage?

Clark, by the time you’re modeling, all the X29s looked like they were in hide service.


Richard Hendrickson



Pennsy hide car

Clark Propst
 

I’m about to decal a X29 that I have documentation on carrying hides.
 
Did the Pennsy use any special stenciling to indicate car usage?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Question IM aar alt. hopper

Chuck Higdon
 

Jon, if the coupler height is correct with the shim and the car is higher than some of your other hoppers.  Then this hopper must be a different design and maybe was made higher.  I do not have the cars you are talking about, but know I have seen different height hoppers while watching trains.

 

Take care,

 

Chuck Higdon - check out my FEC layout at

https://picasaweb.google.com/102920461774912857361

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of jon miller
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 3:38 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Question IM aar alt. hopper

 

 

While putting in .088 wheelsets in the trucks I noticed a thin
washer on the truck mounting booster and the screws were not tight.
Thought this was to shim up the coupler but with other cars the hopper
seems high. Has anyone else noticed this.

--

Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Odds & evens was: Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

O Fenton Wells
 

By the way Clark, very nice article on flat car loads in this months RMC.  ATTABOY!
Fenton Wells


On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:49 AM, <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
 

To muddy the waters even more I believe the CNW filled in some of there even numbered series’ PS-1s with odd numbered cars.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa




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Re: Tru-color paint

Craig Zeni
 

3a. Re: Tru-color paint
Posted by: "Don" riverman_vt@yahoo.com riverman_vt
Date: Sat Dec 7, 2013 8:03 pm ((PST))



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <lajrmdlr@...> wrote:

For those not close to a LHS, Tru Color paints can be purchased over the phone or by email:
http://www.trucolorpaint.com/

And as I have noted before, the same paint from the same formulation and the same paint supplier as the former Accu-Paint line. Tru Color, like Accu-Paint simply bottles it from 5 gallon pails. Easily the best thing available for use on styrene.
I have some NYO&W decals that were custom made by Mal Houck back in the early 1980s that have the yellow stripes for the diesels. He told me the color was matched to Accupaint's Light Imitation Gold...and sure enough it matched very very well to the Tru-Color Light Imitation Gold.


Craig Zeni
Sent from my soup can with the string pulled really tight.


Odds & evens was: Re: 2014 SHAKE N TAKE Scope of project and sign up begins

Clark Propst
 

To muddy the waters even more I believe the CNW filled in some of there even numbered series’ PS-1s with odd numbered cars.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Shake N Take Aftermarket List

Mark Stamm
 

Greg,

Please add me to the aftermarket list.  Specifically I'm interested in a CNW and a ATSF.

thanks
Mark

Mark P Stamm

Sent from my mobile device

On Dec 8, 2013, at 3:25 AM, tgregmrtn@... wrote:

 

 
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
In a message dated 12/4/2013 9:05:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, TGREGMRTN@... writes:
 

Gize,
Yet another update...
 
This list is a first for SHAKE N TAKE  it is a list that tracks the necessary over run for the SHAKE N TAKE project. It will help those involved behind the scenes that create the parts for the kits informed so they might be able to help supply parts for those interested in kits but couldn't make the show or were not an original recipient of the handout kit. 
 
I have not idea at this pint the cost as I am not sure they will until all is said and done.
 
As you can see below some have been very specific on the parts they want, so I will figure that if you haven't specified you are in for one set of CNW/CMO/RI/FTDDM&S related parts.
 
 
Know that I am working on trying to get the CMO Green and Yellow Decals done as well. NO PROMISES!
 
If you are going to attend Cocoa Beach, please pull together here, and at least for our group, I ask you to please BOOK YOUR ROOM and PRE-REGISTER. We are clansmen we stick together, plus the Boss will sleep easier.
 
Bring your favorite Hawaiian Shirt... we might as well have fun with this... As Mont Says, "there's a Bash at the Beach"...
 
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
Aftermarket:
  1. Scott Haycock
  2. Brad Hanner
  3. Rich Christie ( 2 CNW  1 ATSF) 
  4. Richard Townsend
  5. Philip Blancher
  6. Tom Christensen
  7. Rob Kirkham
  8. Per Harwe
  9. Al Gest
  10. Tom Dill
  11. Tim O' Conner
  12. Paul Greenwald
  13. Mont Switzer (4 CNW 1 ATSF)
  14. Jerry Glow ( 1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  15. Al Brown
  16. John Greedy
  17. Larry Sexton (1 CNW 2 ATSF)
  18. Paul Bizier (ATSF)
  19. Joe Binish
  20. John Sutkus (1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  21. Joe Pauley
  22. John Cantlay ( 2 CNW 1 ATSF)  
  23. William H. Sharpe
  24. John Sharpe
  25. Stan Hall
  26. Larry Rast
  27. Bruce Smith (ATSF) 
  28. Matt Herson
  29. John Riddell ( 2 CNW )
  30. Brian Carlson (ATSF)
  31. Rich Orr (4 sets)
  32. Bernd Schroeder (1 CNW 1 ATSF Adelsdorf Germany)
  33. Larry Mennie ( 1 CMW 1 ATSF) 
  34. Charles Hostetler (5 CNW)
  35. John Hodson (1 CNW)
  36. Dan Sweeney, Jr (1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  37. Dave Sieber (2 CNW  2 ATSF)
  38. Stuart Forsyth
  39. Bill Vaughn (1 CNW 3 ATSF)
  40. Tom Pearson (1 CNW)
  41. Todd Sullivan (1 CNW/RI)
  42. Rob Mclear   (2 ATSF Australia)
  43. Geoffrey Barbier (1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  44. Ed Rethwisch (1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  45. Alan Monk ( 2 CNW Reading UK)
  46. Vince Altiere ( 1 CNW 1 ATSF).
  47. Steve Orth ( 1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  48. John E. Baker (1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  49. David Orr
  50. Robert Massey (RI/FtDDM&S)
  51. Stan Hall (2 ATSF)
  52. Ray Smit
  53. Chet French (1 CNW 1 ATSF) 
 
 


Shake N Take Aftermarket List

Greg Martin
 

 
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 12/4/2013 9:05:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, TGREGMRTN@... writes:
 

Gize,
Yet another update...
 
This list is a first for SHAKE N TAKE  it is a list that tracks the necessary over run for the SHAKE N TAKE project. It will help those involved behind the scenes that create the parts for the kits informed so they might be able to help supply parts for those interested in kits but couldn't make the show or were not an original recipient of the handout kit. 
 
I have not idea at this pint the cost as I am not sure they will until all is said and done.
 
As you can see below some have been very specific on the parts they want, so I will figure that if you haven't specified you are in for one set of CNW/CMO/RI/FTDDM&S related parts.
 
 
Know that I am working on trying to get the CMO Green and Yellow Decals done as well. NO PROMISES!
 
If you are going to attend Cocoa Beach, please pull together here, and at least for our group, I ask you to please BOOK YOUR ROOM and PRE-REGISTER. We are clansmen we stick together, plus the Boss will sleep easier.
 
Bring your favorite Hawaiian Shirt... we might as well have fun with this... As Mont Says, "there's a Bash at the Beach"...
 
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
Aftermarket:
  1. Scott Haycock
  2. Brad Hanner
  3. Rich Christie ( 2 CNW  1 ATSF) 
  4. Richard Townsend
  5. Philip Blancher
  6. Tom Christensen
  7. Rob Kirkham
  8. Per Harwe
  9. Al Gest
  10. Tom Dill
  11. Tim O' Conner
  12. Paul Greenwald
  13. Mont Switzer (4 CNW 1 ATSF)
  14. Jerry Glow ( 1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  15. Al Brown
  16. John Greedy
  17. Larry Sexton (1 CNW 2 ATSF)
  18. Paul Bizier (ATSF)
  19. Joe Binish
  20. John Sutkus (1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  21. Joe Pauley
  22. John Cantlay ( 2 CNW 1 ATSF)  
  23. William H. Sharpe
  24. John Sharpe
  25. Stan Hall
  26. Larry Rast
  27. Bruce Smith (ATSF) 
  28. Matt Herson
  29. John Riddell ( 2 CNW )
  30. Brian Carlson (ATSF)
  31. Rich Orr (4 sets)
  32. Bernd Schroeder (1 CNW 1 ATSF Adelsdorf Germany)
  33. Larry Mennie ( 1 CMW 1 ATSF) 
  34. Charles Hostetler (5 CNW)
  35. John Hodson (1 CNW)
  36. Dan Sweeney, Jr (1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  37. Dave Sieber (2 CNW  2 ATSF)
  38. Stuart Forsyth
  39. Bill Vaughn (1 CNW 3 ATSF)
  40. Tom Pearson (1 CNW)
  41. Todd Sullivan (1 CNW/RI)
  42. Rob Mclear   (2 ATSF Australia)
  43. Geoffrey Barbier (1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  44. Ed Rethwisch (1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  45. Alan Monk ( 2 CNW Reading UK)
  46. Vince Altiere ( 1 CNW 1 ATSF).
  47. Steve Orth ( 1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  48. John E. Baker (1 CNW 1 ATSF)
  49. David Orr
  50. Robert Massey (RI/FtDDM&S)
  51. Stan Hall (2 ATSF)
  52. Ray Smit
  53. Chet French (1 CNW 1 ATSF) 
 
 


Re: Tru-color paint

Andy Carlson
 

Don,
Accupaint bottled up their product from ONE gallon pails, not five. And they stepped on it a bit, supposedly to enhance the covering abilities, but I suspect it was to increase the profit margin. Tim O'Connor could tell us much more, as he knew the principals.

Tru-paint, like Accupaint, is sourced from Southern California.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


From: Don
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:55 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Tru-color paint

 


--- In STMFC@..., wrote:
>
> For those not close to a LHS, Tru Color paints can be purchased over the phone or by email:
> http://www.trucolorpaint.com/
>

And as I have noted before, the same paint from the same formulation and the same paint supplier as the former Accu-Paint line. Tru Color, like Accu-Paint simply bottles it from 5 gallon pails. Easily the best thing available for use on styrene.




Re: Overland Models #3131: ACF Double Dome Tank Car 8,000 gal.

Tim O'Connor
 

Stuart

http://www.brasstrains.com/classic/Product/Detail/053076/HO-Brass-Model-Train-OMI-3131-ACF-Double-Dome-8-000-Gallon-Tank-Car

Elden Gatwood posted that it matches a certain SHPX car, but I've
never seen a photo of the prototype and Elden did not identify the
car number.

Nor has Richard Hendrickson; he has posted previously on the subject
that this car was invented by Tom Marsh of Overland Models.

Nevertheless it's a handsome model and who's going to know? :-) Certainly
only one or maybe two people at my train club would even have a clue.

Now OMI #3230, a GATC 10,000 double dome insulated tank car, actually
does have a prototype that was shown in an Overland flyer -- NIPX #8.

Tim O'Connor

Does anyone know the prototype for this model, which shippers/railroads owned it, whether any decals are available for it or even the era it ran?

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

Best wishes,

Stuart A. Forsyth
forsyth@usa.net


Re: CRIX Dri Protecto cars

Douglas Harding
 

Tim, good question and one I cannot answer. Steve was asking about insulated boxcars, I can not imagine where Accurail got the idea it was a reefer.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Overland Models #3131: ACF Double Dome Tank Car 8,000 gal.

Stuart <trainmail@...>
 

Does anyone know the prototype for this model, which shippers/railroads owned it, whether any decals are available for it or even the era it ran?

I have searched the Yahoo!/Neo archives to no avail.

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

Best wishes,

Stuart A. Forsyth
forsyth@usa.net


Re: CRIX Dri Protecto cars

Tim O'Connor
 


exactly. you see any ice hatches on that?

Accurail makes a 40 foot plug door insulated box car.

Whatever inspired them to model a box car with an ice reefer?





Tim, this may have been what Accurail had in mind.
http://www.pbase.com/rocksosalla/image/132223810/original
 
Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: CRIX Dri Protecto cars

Douglas Harding
 

Tim, this may have been what Accurail had in mind.

http://www.pbase.com/rocksosalla/image/132223810/original

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: CRIX Dri Protecto cars

Tim O'Connor
 


Good grief. That's an ice refrigerator car!! Did Accurail even look
at a prototype photo?

Tim O'Connor



Accurail did a Rock Island car with CRIX Dri Protecto lettering, car #2257.
Item 8514 announced Oct/Nov 2013
http://www.accurail.com/accurail/ART/8500/8514.jpg
 
Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: CRIX Dri Protecto cars

caboose9792@...
 

I think that may have been part of the set I gave Bob K for the IRM website. If not I got identical shots,in higher resalution. The lettering on the other side was just about gone. Anyhow, what was the box under the door in the linked photo?
Mark Rickert
 

In a message dated 12/7/2013 5:20:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, shile@... writes:
 

This is the lettering scheme I was thinking about, but on a rebuilt (in 1960, apparently) car in the 205xx series.  The car at IRM can be seen at

http://www.irm.org/gallery/CRIX20519/aaa

(not a terribly good angle.)

Frankly, I was presuming that this could be an interesting kitbash, with the partial wood sides and a fishbelly underframe.

Thanks,

Steve

P.S. There were some all steel CRIX cars, too, although I am not sure how they match up with the Accurail car.


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:24 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] CRIX Dri Protecto cars

 

Accurail did a Rock Island car with CRIX Dri Protecto lettering, car #2257. Item 8514 announced Oct/Nov 2013

http://www.accurail.com/accurail/ART/8500/8514.jpg

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

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