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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Thanks Justin, that has been pointed out to me and is one of the reasons I enjoy this Yahoo group. I probably should have checked my resources first but failed to do that. Many eyes are better than two, at least the way mine seem to be connected.
By the way, did these first versions come with "The Right Way" slogan or was that added later? Thanks to all who replied. Fenton Wells
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Justin May <jmay59@...> wrote:
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Justin May <jmay59@...>
Will you do the C of G in the original lettering? Some of us are OLD and model the 1950's.Fenton, There is no need to reinvent the wheel as the Microscale set has all of the variations of the appropriate monogram, four different "THE RIGHT WAY" slogan for both two and three bay covered hoppers with and without center posts, four different reporting marks styles used by the Central, the appropriate dimensional data for the 1958, 2003, and 2893 cuft covered hoppers, several loading stencils for both clay and feed service, caution data for removal of lading, and many different reweigh stations and dates. All in all, there is not much more one could want in the way of as delivered Central of Georgia covered hopper decals, and what Microscale does not offer, Mask Island does for the post-'63 paint schemes. The Microscale Central of Georgia covered hopper and boxcar sets are some of the best Microscale sets to date. Justin May
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Thanks for the input, I'll check it out. Fenton Wells
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Todd Horton <toddchorton@...> wrote:
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Re: Wheelset demo train performance
Like to see a video of that operating on Ken McCorry's layout in Downingtown, Pennsylvania. 950 ft mainline with 2 or 2.5% grade. We've used mid-train and end-of-train helpers on that layout with 64+ ore cars with live loads. Makes for a challenging evening. -- John
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Re: C of G 1958 cu ft covered hopper (LO) photo
Todd Horton
Fenton, there are small differences in the lettering of each lot of these cars. I have builders photos of 1340, 1350, 1314, and 1379. I also have several in service shots of some of the cars from various lots.
The CofG used three different style reporting marks plus a few other minor differences from 1940 through 1960 so depending on what year and car you are interested in these change with time.
I am traveling now but I will be happy to dig out what I have one these cars if I can be a help to you.
The Microscale CofG covered hopper decal set has a lot of info on these cars as well.
Todd Horton
From: "srrfan1401@..."
To: STMFC@... Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:15 PM Subject: [STMFC] C of G 1958 cu ft covered hopper (LO) photo Doe anyone have a good photo of the original lettering scheme and also for the 1950's, if they are different for the C of G 1958 cu ft cars in the 1300-1339 series, built by Pullman in 1940 and 1340-1374 as built by AC&F in 1944.
Thanks in advance
Fenton Wells
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Todd Horton
The CGRHS worked with Microscale to produce a set for the C of G covered hoppers in the original lettering scheme. They are still available as far as I know.
Todd Horton
From: O Fenton Wells
To: STMFC@... Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited) Hubert I would be glad to but I would like to have you do the 1954 cu ft decals as well. I'll send those photos and lettering diagrams in a separate email. Will you do the C of G in the original lettering? Some of us are OLD and model the 1950's. Here you go; On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Hubert Mask <maskisland@...> wrote: > > > Fenton, would you mind sending me those photos also. I have a decal set > of the CofG 1000. 1970 rebuild. > Looking for additional information for other series of the cars. > > Hubert Mask > > ------------------------------ > To: STMFC@... > From: srrfan1401@... > Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:26:32 -0500 > Subject: Re: [STMFC] CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited) > > > > John, I have some I took in 1983 on a visit to Saluda NC. I'll send them > off line. > fenton wells > > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 10:10 AM, John Evans <jtevans53@...>wrote: > > > > John, > > Have you tried the Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery? freight.railfan.ca > > They have builders photos of CofG 970, 1000, and 1475. > > Hope this helps. > > John Evans > Easton, PA > > > On Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:20 AM, "Scaler164@..." < > Scaler164@...> wrote: > > Looking for a few good reference photos to use for modeling some CofG > PS2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers from the following series : > > * CG 960-999 (blt 1960, Pullman)* > * CG 1000-1199 (blt 195760, Pullman)* > * CG 1475-1499 (blt 1956, Pullman)* > > I have found that the S-Helper Service (S scale) model of this car appears > to be an out-of-box *EXACT* (or darn near so) representation of these > cars (based on the only 4 photos I have), so it looks like a quick and easy > job with near perfect results. I already have decals for them, so I'm good > and ready to go. > > Click the link below for an image of the model : > > www.trainweb.org/seaboard/TEMP/SHSPS2CoveredHopper.jpg > > Would like to know what other roads (especially southeastern roads) had > these cars in the same configuration as this CofG car (round hatches, > etc)...? > > Who says S scale has nothing to offer?!? >wink< > > > John Degnan > Scaler164@... > Scaler187@... > > > > > > > > -- > Fenton Wells > 5 Newberry Lane > Pinehurst NC 28374 > 910-420-1144 > srrfan1401@... > > > -- Fenton Wells 5 Newberry Lane Pinehurst NC 28374 910-420-1144 srrfan1401@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: STMFC-digest@... STMFC-fullfeatured@... <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: STMFC-unsubscribe@... <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/
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Re: C of G 1958 cu ft covered hopper (LO) photo
Thanks John, fenton wells
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM, John Evans <jtevans53@...> wrote:
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Re: C of G 1958 cu ft covered hopper (LO) photo
John Evans
ACF builders photos of CG 1340 in RPC Vol. 27 page 38.
John Evans Easton, PA
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C of G 1958 cu ft covered hopper (LO) photo
Doe anyone have a good photo of the original lettering scheme and also for the 1950's, if they are different for the C of G 1958 cu ft cars in the 1300-1339 series, built by Pullman in 1940 and 1340-1374 as built by AC&F in 1944.
Thanks in advance Fenton Wells
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
I'm with you let me see what I can do.
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Hubert Mask <maskisland@...> wrote:
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
hubert mask
Sure if I can read all the data off the photo. You know I like to get as much as 95 percent of the data detail correct or preferably 100. Thanks. Hubert
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On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:14 AM, "O Fenton Wells" <srrfan1401@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Hubert I would be glad to but I would like to have you do the 1954 cu ft
decals as well. I'll send those photos and lettering diagrams in a separate email. Will you do the C of G in the original lettering? Some of us are OLD and model the 1950's. Here you go; On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Hubert Mask <maskisland@hotmail.com> wrote:
-- Fenton Wells 5 Newberry Lane Pinehurst NC 28374 910-420-1144 srrfan1401@gmail.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: double sheathed & single sheathed - most common in the early 1950s???
Rather than the score and rod method, it might be easier to use Archer weld lines. It'll need repaint either way. Chuck Peck
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Re: double sheathed & single sheathed - most common in the early 1950s???
Bill Welch
Richard, now that you mention it... Alternatively and w/o removing the running board and latitudinals I could use my favorite tool, the single edged razor blade as a wide chisel, cleave off the roof ribs or seam caps and then the scoring and lay down the .010 rod material. The roof is black which is easy to match of course. Bill Welch
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Cocoa Beach
Spen Kellogg <spninetynine@...>
I am looking for a roommate to shares expenses with for the Prototype Rails 2014.
I have a reservation at the Cocoa Beach Hilton Oceanfront and will be flying in to Orlando arriving Thursday Jan. 9 at 12:24. I am departing Monday Jan. 13 at 1:04. Spen Kellogg spenkellogg at centurylink dot net
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Re: GATC stock cars
Richard Hendrickson
On Dec 12, 2013, at 9:32 AM, cepropst@q.com wrote:
Clark, I’m sending you off-list scans of some photos of others: Chicago Great Western (double deck), General American (GASX), and Swift (double deck). I also have photos of AESX 107, 109, 143, and 244 if any of those are of interest. Richard Hendrickson
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Prototype Rails 2014 Update
Scott Dam
Hi,
Friends of Prototype Rails PROTOTYPE RAILS 2014 COCOA BEACH, FL, JAN 9-11, 2014
An NMRA Sanctioned Event A Prototype Modeling Meet Featuring Modular Layouts in O, HO and N Scale 1000 Models on Display—Please Bring Models!
Hotel COCOA BEACH HILTON OCEANFRONT 1550 N. Atlantic Ave. [Highway A1A], COCOA BEACH, FL. Phone: 800-526-2609 or 321-799-0003. Refer to Prototype Rails for $100 Room Rate.
Registration Early registration $35, Please make your check payable to "Prototype Rails" and send to: Marty Megregian 480 Gails Way Merritt Island, FL 32953.
The cutoff date for early registration is January 1, 2014. Registration after that date is $45.
Over 80 Clinics by the Following Clinicians Frank Angstead, Rick Bell, Michael Borkon, Al Brown, Jeff Cauthen, Bill Darnaby, George Eichelberger, Stephen Funaro, John Greedy, Robert Gross, Andy Harman, Ray Hazen, Richard Hendrickson, Roger Hinman, Charles Hostetler, Bob Johnson, Steve King, Larry Kline, Tony Koester, Gail & Greg Komar, Jim Langston III, Tom Madden, Greg Martin, Sandy McCulloh, Lance Mindheim, Ed Murphy, Jim Murrie, Joe Oates, Steve Orth, Clark Propst, Bob Putt, Mike Rose, Bill Schaumberg, Jim Singer, Bruce Smith, Andy Sperandeo, Mont Switzer, Chip Syme, Ken Tendick II, Gilbert Thomas Jr., Tony Thompson, Mark Vaughan, Bill Welch, Fenton Wells, Tom Wilson
Organizations, Manufacturers & Dealers (tentative)ACL/SAL Historical Society, Bob's Photos, Broadway Limited Imports, 5th Avenue Shops, Fox Valley Models, Funaro & Camerlengo, Intermountain, John C. La Rue Photos, David Leider, Mainline Photos, Motrak, Stan Rydarowicz, Rapido, Southern Car & Foundry, SRHA, Thoroughbred Models, Trolleys N' Dollies, Westerfield
The meet begins on Thursday, January 9th, 8 PM with video, slide shows and clinics. Spouses/Guests not attending presentations do not have to pay registration. Please provide name with your registration. There will be a Friends of the Freight Car lunch at noon on Saturday. We are planning a dinner at Florida’s Fresh Grill for $28. Please email scott.dam@... with your commitment to attend and your meal choice (Fish, Beef, or Chicken). You may also mail in a confirmation with a check to Marty Megregian or pay at the registration desk upon arrival. Cutoff for dinner reservations and payment is Friday, Jan.10, 2014. Restaurant space is limited. Check our Webpage for the clinic schedule and other updates.
For More Information http://www.prototyperails.com Contact Mike Brock at: brockm@... or 321-453-4140
If you would like to provide your contact information to be included on our mailing/e-mail list and for any follow up, please include the following with your registration payment:
Name (for badge); address; phone number; e-mail; Spouse or Guest name, (if attending) Notes:
An update on Prototype Rails.To benefit from the discounted early
registration (saving $10), please ensure your registration is received by Marty
Megregian by January 1, 2014.
Due to some renovations going on at the Cocoa Beach Hilton while we are
holding the meet, we are now planning a Saturday night group dinner at a nearby
restaurant, Florida’s Fresh Grill, located 2 blocks north of the hotel and
across the street. We have a set menu with choices of Fish, Steak, or Chicken
with salad, vegetables, dessert, soft drinks. All inclusive for $28.00. You must
reserve in advance with your meal choice. If you have already registered, please
pay when picking up your badge. Please email your dinner reservation with meal
choice to me (Scott Dam) by December 31st (direct, not through a Yahoo
Group). If you have not yet registered and want dinner included, please
include the diner payment with your registration and indicate your meal choice.
Please have your registration and dinner request in by the early registration
date. Space at the restaurant is limited so reserve early. Directions and menu
will be posted at the meeting registration desk.
Our list of Clinicians has firmed up as shown (see schedule attached). We
are still working to finalize our organizations, manufacturers and dealers who
will be participating this year. Our tentative list is on the flyer.
While we do not have an official registration form on the most recent
flyer, we are asking for the basic information (name, address, phone,
email), if you wish to be included on future emails and so we
have contact information should we need to contact you. This information is for
our committee use only and will not be made available to
others. If you have a Spouse or Guest attending but not participating in the
clinics, please provide the name for a complimentary badge, which will allow
access to the displays and showroom areas.
If you don’t receive this message directly but only from one of the Yahoo
groups, then we don’t have your email address. Please send it in to Scott Dam
for future updates.
We are also preordering Prototype Rails embroidered pocket
shirts—royal blue, with white letters—from Port Authority, embroidery
by Space Shirts of Merritt Island. Sizes S, M, L, XL for $25.00 and XXL for
$28.00. To have the shirts available at the meeting, we need your shirt
reservation by December 31st. Please send your email
request directly to Scott Dam (not through a Yahoo group, please)
including the size. Cash payment is due when picking up your shirt.
To make it handy, here are some important contacts:
Mike Brock, Chairman, Boss and Grand PooBah (The one with the target on his
back)
brockm@...
321-453-4140
Marty Megregian, Registrar and Ballroom Floor Boss
480 Gails Way
Merritt Island, FL 32953
($35 received before 1/1/14, $45 on 1/1/14 or after,
including walk-in registrations)
Hotel:
Cocoa Beach Hilton Oceanfront
800-526-2609 or 321-799-0003
Refer to Prototype Rails for $100 room rate.
Website: www.prototyperails.com
We look forward to seeing you at the meet.
Scott Dam, Assistant Registrar
scott.dam@...
321-338-2150 PS: Sorry
if you get multiples of this message. S.
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Kits for Sale
Keith Jordan
To All,
The following freight car items are offered for sale: Sunshine Models MK.11D C&I/Montour AAR hopper conversion 2001 $10 Funaro & Camerlengo 6560/61 SP A-50-6 SS 1½ door autobox. $25 Funaro & Camerlengo 3701/02 GN 40 ft. truss rod boxcar $25 Wright Trak BO-01 B&O M53/53A wagontop boxcar $25 AMB/Laserkit SP C-30-1 caboose, laser-cut wood $15 If interested, please go to www.losangelesdivision.com and contact me through the website. I will not respond through this list. In addition, several plastic freight car kits are offered, as well as locomotives, passenger cars and a selection of brass equipment. Keith Jordan
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
hubert mask
Fenton, would you mind sending me those photos also. I have a decal set of the CofG 1000. 1970 rebuild. Looking for additional information for other series of the cars. Hubert Mask To: STMFC@... From: srrfan1401@... Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:26:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [STMFC] CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited) John, I have some I took in 1983 on a visit to Saluda NC. I'll send them off line. fenton wells
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 10:10 AM, John Evans <jtevans53@...> wrote:
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Re: double sheathed & single sheathed - most common in the early 1950s???
Richard Hendrickson
On Dec 13, 2013, at 6:39 PM, fgexbill@... wrote:
Sorry for the confusion, Bill. You are correct that the Tichy roof is wrong. The peaked roofs on these cars were home made of flat sheet metal with welded seams. It would be relatively simple to model correctly by simply removing the running boards, filing off the seam caps on the Tichy roof, scoring at the locations of the weld seams, and cementing small styrene rods (e.g., .010) into the score marks to represent the seams. Whether you want to go that effort is, of course, your call. Richard Hendrickson
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