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Re: Jerry Glow, AGAIN
Tony Thompson
Um, how many times does Mike Brock have to terminate this topic???
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Jerry Glow, AGAIN
Gene Semon <mopac1@...>
Gentlemen,
I’ll add to this from my recent experience. I placed a $140 order on 11-3 and received it on 12-14. Jerry acknowledged the order & followed up with a note on its status in late November. I wonder why there are some that seem to fall through the cracks.
Gene Semon
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Brad Andonian
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:52 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Jerry Glow, AGAIN
Fellas,
I am sorry to see this; I have had good relations and dealings with Mr. Glow. Orders have arrived in excellent condition. A few have been slow, but most very satisfactory.
I hope this helps some. BRad Andonian
On Monday, December 16, 2013 3:00 PM, "daveboss10@..." <daveboss10@...> wrote:
Allen I too have become prey of the decal scam. I sent an order in Oct.2013 Jerry cashed the check Oct.23rd. I have yet to receive the decals. I sent numerous E-mails,and have had no reply. I asked for a refund or the decals in last E-mail over the week end no answer. Dave
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Re: Jerry Glow, AGAIN
Brad Andonian
Fellas, I am sorry to see this; I have had good relations and dealings with Mr. Glow. Orders have arrived in excellent condition. A few have been slow, but most very satisfactory. I hope this helps some. BRad Andonian
On Monday, December 16, 2013 3:00 PM,
"daveboss10@..." wrote: Allen I too have become prey of the decal scam. I sent an order in Oct.2013 Jerry cashed the check Oct.23rd. I have yet to receive the decals. I sent numerous E-mails,and have had no reply. I asked for a refund or the decals in last E-mail over the week end no answer. Dave
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Re: Jerry Glow, AGAIN
Dave Boss
Allen I too have become prey of the decal scam. I sent an order in Oct.2013 Jerry cashed the check Oct.23rd. I have yet to receive the decals. I sent numerous E-mails,and have had no reply. I asked for a refund or the decals in last E-mail over the week end no answer. Dave
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Scott H. Haycock
Dave, Plans for these cars appear in the Aug. 1998 Mainline Modeler. Scott Haycock Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantment
Based on Eric's reply, some of these C of G cars might have made it to places like Minneapolis & St Paul. If that is the case I could model one for a CB&Q train on the C&I branch (Aurora. IL to Twin Cities) of the "Q". Now if I could only get some good plans I might just be able to scratch build on of these in O-Scale Proto 48! Oh, yes, where to find decals for these PS-2 two bay covered hoppers in O-Scale?
Later, Dave Sarther
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Dave Sarther
Based on Eric's reply, some of these C of G cars might have made it to places like Minneapolis & St Paul. If that is the case I could model one for a CB&Q train on the C&I branch (Aurora. IL to Twin Cities) of the "Q". Now if I could only get some good plans I might just be able to scratch build on of these in O-Scale Proto 48! Oh, yes, where to find decals for these PS-2 two bay covered hoppers in O-Scale?
Later, Dave Sarther
-----Original Message----- From: Frank Gendernalik To: STMFC Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 1:15 pm Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited) Also, out of Spruce Pine, NC on the Clinchfield.
Frank Gendernalik Northville, MI
On Monday, December 16, 2013 3:06 PM, Todd Horton <toddchorton@...> wrote:
Good point Eric, just because you're not a C of G modeler doesn't mean you can't justify one or more of these cars on your layout.
Todd Horton
From: Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
To: STMFC@... Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Actually, much of the kaolin for coating paper was used in New Engand and the northern Midwest. The central Georgia region was the primary source.
Eric
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Frank Gendernalik
Also, out of Spruce Pine, NC on the Clinchfield. Frank Gendernalik Northville, MI
On Monday, December 16, 2013 3:06 PM, Todd Horton wrote: Good point Eric, just because you're not a C of G modeler doesn't mean you can't justify one or more of these cars on your layout.
Todd Horton
From: Eric Neubauer
To: STMFC@... Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Actually, much of the kaolin for coating paper was used in New Engand and the northern Midwest. The central Georgia region was the primary source.
Eric
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Todd Horton
Good point Eric, just because you're not a C of G modeler doesn't mean you can't justify one or more of these cars on your layout.
Todd Horton
From: Eric Neubauer
To: STMFC@... Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Actually, much of the kaolin for coating paper was used in New Engand and the northern Midwest. The central Georgia region was the primary source.
Eric
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Actually, much of the kaolin for coating paper was
used in New Engand and the northern Midwest. The central Georgia region was the
primary source.
Eric
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Scott H. Haycock
Dave, In the Southeast, a lot of kaolin was used in papermaking. My understanding is that kaolin is what gives paper that smooth finish, as opposed to newsprint, etc. Scott Haycock Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantment I am not a C of G modeler but have found this thread most informative. Since I didn't know what kaolin was, nor what it could be used for, I had to resort to Google as my friend. http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/science-medicine/kaolin So now I know it is most commonly found in the US in Georgia and is used most often in the production of white china. Later, Dave Sarther
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Dave Sarther
I am not a C of G modeler but have found this thread most informative. Since I didn't know what kaolin was, nor what it could be used for, I had to resort to Google as my friend. http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/science-medicine/kaolin So now I know it is most commonly found in the US in Georgia and is used most often in the production of white china.
Later, Dave Sarther
-----Original Message----- From: Justin May To: STMFC Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 8:25 am Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Justin May
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Fertilizer, and kaolin, too.
In the early days mostly cement. Later they were used for grain and other commodities. On the SR drawings they are referred to as cement hoppers
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
David Sieber
Q: What were these covered hoppers used for?
Feed, Kaolin, Cement, and Clay mostly, although the standard "any dry powdered commodity" could be hauled in much the same manner. Sugar was reserved for a group of 4180 cuft Airslides delivered in the post-1960 era. Justin May
Also fertilizer, at least in the years immediately following the span of this list. There was a recent discussion on the MFCL about a photo of PS-2 CG 997 on a Penn Central team track at Medford NJ in 3-68. Pink spillage in several spots on the ground near the portable unloader's spout suggested that the cargo probably had been fertilizer. Dave Sieber, Reno NV
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Todd Horton
Kaolin, was, and is still, a major traffic commodity in the Sandersville Ga area. Being that the Sandersville connected with the C of G I would assume they hauled a lot of this product in the Central cars
Todd Horton
From: Justin May
To: STMFC@... Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Justin May
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Justin May <jmay59@...>
Justin May
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
In the early days mostly cement. Later they were used for grain and other commodities. On the SR drawings they are referred to as cement hoppers Fenton Wells
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:43 AM, <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Clark Propst
What were these covered hoppers used for?
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Justin May <jmay59@...>
This is beyond the scope of this groups era, but how about thegreen lettered scheme started in the 60's, after Southern absorbed it? Any repainted CofG freight car after June 17, 1963 was subject to be repainted into the Southern style block "Central of Georgia" scheme. The application to boxcars was generally in white, whereas the application of black and green Central of Georgia lettering was applied to various covered hoppers. Typically the black and green schemes were applied by Southern Railway shop forces. Cabs (caboose) were subject to this scheme as well and as such were lettered in white. Most photographs I've seen show the earliest white "CENTRAL OF GEORGIA" scheme applied in 1964 to a group of 86' auto parts boxcars. STMFC content - The Southern style block scheme was applied nearly 10 years after the last 4-8-4 Big Apple was retired. Justin May
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Todd Horton
The cabooses and some of the diesel switchers had a script version of "The Right Way" applied during the 40's, some lasting into at least the mid 50's.
Todd Horton
From: O Fenton Wells
To: STMFC@... Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited) Todd and Justin thanks for clearing that up and now I'm bummed as I really like the slogan. Oh well we must be prepared for the prototype police. So no slogan on the layout.
fenton wells On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Todd Horton <toddchorton@...> wrote:
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Re: CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited)
Todd Horton
Larry, It varies depending on what cars you are looking at. The end reporting marks are different. Some had C.of Ga and some used CG. I have never come across a photo of C. of Ga. used on the sides of a car and I have studied the freight cars extensively.
Todd Horton
From: "granpa92@..."
To: STMFC@... Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] CofG PS-2 2-Bay Covered Hoppers (Revisited) I find it interesting in Justin's photos that the reporting marks on the side of the cars are C. G. and on the ends they are C. of Ga. Were all the freight cars of the road lettered that way? Do the Microscale decals reflect this lettering? Larry Platt The following series of Central of Georgia two bay covered hoppers were delivered with a monogram only. 1300-1314, built 1940, Pullman Standard 1315-1339, built 1941, GATC 1340-1349, built 1944, ACF 1350-1374, built 1952, ACF 1375-1424, built 1953, Pullman Standard 1425-1474, built 1953, Pullman Standard 1475-1499, built 1956, Pullman Standard The following series of Central of Georgia two bay covered hoppers were delivered with a monogram and lettered "THE RIGHT WAY". 960-999, built 1960, Pullman Standard 1000-1199, built 1957, Pullman Standard Justin May
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