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Re: UP Kitbash 40' Double Door SERVICE Help
Richard Townsend
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon
-----Original Message----- From: geridee1 To: STMFC Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 3:01 pm Subject: [STMFC] UP Kitbash 40' Double Door SERVICE Help UP Challenger Merchandise Service
UP Two-tone Grey Express Service
UP Armour Yellow Express Service
On the Athearn site all these boxcars were offered in 2005-8 and are here: Athearn page covering the UP express boxcars released between 2005 and 2008and here: http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=40%27+Box+RTR+Double&CatID=THRF&RN=UP. All shown are double door 40' boxcars
I also read that the 40' double door boxcars Athearn used were a hold over from their purchase of Model Die Casting and it looks as if similar boxcars, under numerous Flags were produced by Roundhouse and may be during the same time period and from the same production mold as well.
Although the paint schemes may (or may not?) be correct for all the boxcars Athearn used to create double door sales, I need some direction to clarify how the UP Service boxcars were specifically painted and how the exterior structure should be created in an accurate model.
I would appreciate all input and direction, especially from individuals who have modeled these particular boxcars, or modeled the 40s-50s double door boxcar on which it looks to be based.
I hope you can help,
Joeldee/Berlin
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Re: historical maps
Dan, the atlas works fine with Firefox. The maps do have some animation, so you may need an addon or plugin to get them to function.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
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Re: Fw: (erielack) Steamtown Images--December 27, 2013 (C3771 thru C3775)
Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
Cool! for those that don't recognize the design,
this is the PSC side sill less version of their more familiar design. Both
designs are very similar except for the side sill. Since there is little
difference in light weight between the two, it is likely the plate is
thicker of the sill less version. So, no side sill, no side plate. The side
panels are simply bent to add a flange at the top and at the
bottom.
Eric
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Re: historical maps
Dan L. Merkel <danmerkel@...>
This "looks" interesting but I can't get
it to work in either IE or Chrome.
dlm
--------------------------------- Dan L. Merkel NKPHTS Membership Director http://thecourier.typepad.com/alongtherightofway/
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Fw: (erielack) Steamtown Images--December 27, 2013 (C3771 thru C3775)
erielack1
The link below will take you to a complete set of photos of a DLW steel coal car built in 1902 taken by the railroad company photographer in 1916. Excellent photos for modeling purposes. Bob Stafford
On Friday, December 27, 2013 3:46 AM, "McKnight, Richard" wrote: NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser: http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-12-27-13 C3771.jpg (image/jpeg, 2944x2298 792039 bytes, BF: 8.54 ppb) C3772.jpg (image/jpeg, 2944x2298 1329546 bytes, BF: 5.09 ppb) C3773.jpg (image/jpeg, 2944x2298 799255 bytes, BF: 8.46 ppb) C3774.jpg (image/jpeg, 2916x2298 808962 bytes, BF: 8.28 ppb) C3775.jpg (image/jpeg, 2998x2298 864303 bytes, BF: 7.97 ppb) Please find attached the following negatives: C3771--DL&W Coal Hopper no. 72253--side--[1916.11.18] C3772--DL&W Coal Hopper no. 72253--top--[1916.11.18] C3773--DL&W Coal Hopper no. 72907--side--[1916.11.18] C3774--DL&W Coal Hopper no. 72907--end--[1916.11.18] C3775--DL&W Coal Hoppers undergoing work--[1916.11.18] If you have any additional comments on any of these images, let me know and I will update our database. Also, if any of you would like to assist with scanning (and are in the Scranton area) I am always happy to sign up new volunteers. -- Patrick McKnight Historian/Archivist Steamtown NHS 150 S. Washington Avenue Scranton, PA Phone: 570-340-5193 Cell: 570-862-6321 FAX: 570-340-5222 The employees of the National Park Service care for special places that are the heritage of all Americans. Since its inception in 1916, the National Park Service has been dedicated to the preservation and management of this country's outstanding natural, historical, and recreational resources. The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List http://EL-List.railfan.net/ To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html
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Re: NP Stock Cars represented by Central Valley kit
Chuck Soule
In addition to the info provided by Chris Frissell for ordering the kits from the NPRHA Company Store, Aaron Gjermundson previously posted info about the trucks. I think it is message 121096. Chuck Soule
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Mt. Vernon 1920s orders
Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
Can anyone help untangle these orders? These were
the days when railroads liked to spread their orders around.
Southern 165000-166269 and 305000-305799 (XM)
include 570 cars built by Mt. Vernon and 1500 built by ACF. They were ordered in
about 3-23. Perhaps some one knows which were built by ACF (lot 9578) and the
Mt. Vernon cars can be determined by process of elimination.
Southern 162000-164999 (XM) includes 1000 by
Mt. Vernon and 2000 by ACF. They were ordered in about10-24. The ACF lot is
9881.
ART 17750-18949 (RS) include 750 by Mt. Vernon and
450 by General Ameican ordered about 9-24.
IC 217750-218749 (GS) include 500 each by Mt.
Vernon and Ryan ordered in about 9-24.
IC 205200-205699, 207200-208199 (GS) include 3
orders of 500 cars each built by WSC&F, Bettendorf, and Mt. Vernon. They
were ordered about 7-22.
Then there are two that need
confirmation:
M&O 24595-24844? (XM) ordered from Mt.
Vernon in 12-27.
C&EI 94000-94499? (GS) ordered from Mt. Vernon
in 10-29.
Any help would be appreciated,
Eric
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Re: FCCC box cars
Benjamin Hom
Phil Clark asked:
"I'd wonder who inspired the Spanish / English lettering maker for the foobie of 17349 on http://www.trainresource.com/Cuba_boxcar.html Scroll down and follow their links! The car in question is about 1/3 of the way down the page. http://www.camagueycuba.org/fccc/5DelMaterialRodante.htm Ben Hom
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Re: FCCC box cars
I'd wonder who inspired the Spanish / English lettering maker for the foobie of 17349 on http://www.trainresource.com/Cuba_boxcar.html Phil Clark, Catarman, Philippines
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Adding Tahoe brake gear to other trucks
Andy Carlson
Hello, I have many Tahoe Model Works brake shoes/rigging pieces from the Tahoe 5'6" wb 50-ton trucks. Our own Dan Smith has been experimenting by retro-fitting TMW brake shoes to various other brands of trucks. Almost any one-piece truck can be modified to accept these brakes. Involves mostly trimming bolsters to fit the brake parts, snapping on the brakes after removing the "devils horns" (what I call the molded on brake shoes found on most trucks). Offered at $1/pair (enough for one freight car), plus shipping of $0.75/order. I accept checks and money orders. Contact me off-list if interested. Thanks, -Andy Carlson Ojai Ca
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Re: NP Stock Cars represented by Central Valley kit
leakinmywaders
Hi all, the Gjermundson-mastered kit for the Whipple Car Co. 1913 NP stock car was stocked and available to anyone by mail order at the NPRHA Company Store at www.nprha.org for a year or two. (See http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/modeling/new%20products/gjermundson/npstockmain.html for further information on the kit and prototype). Like many high-quality resin kits, the production run was limited, the kit sold out, and it is not presently available. However a package of four prototype-width cast resin ends useful for those who want to modify the NP Central Valley styrene stock car kits to correct scale width (8ft 9in over the side sills, e.g., see http://research.nprha.org/NP%20Stock%20Cars/Stock%20Cars%2040%20Ft.%2082500-82749.jpg) has been re-stocked, and is available at the NPRHA Company Store at $12.50 for a package of four (plus shipping). Chris Frissell Polson, MT
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Re: Thank You for Upcoming Bash at The Beach
Bill,
I, and I'm sure the others, appreciate your comments. I understand that the visiting hours in the asylum are somewhat limited so I won't be able to thank you in person. Mike Brock In case it should somehow be forgotten, I wanted to extend my thanks and gratitude to the principle people involved in the upcoming Prototype Rails that year in year out graciously give some of their valuable time to organize this annual event that so many of us have come to love and enjoy participating in. In naming the four I know of I acknowledge I am leaving some out and ask that my appreciation be extended by those whose names I know. Thank you Marty, Scott, Jeff and Mike! Bill Welch
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Thank You for Upcoming Bash at The Beach
Bill Welch
In case it should somehow be forgotten, I wanted to extend my thanks and gratitude to the principle people involved in the upcoming Prototype Rails that year in year out graciously give some of their valuable time to organize this annual event that so many of us have come to love and enjoy participating in. In naming the four I know of I acknowledge I am leaving some out and ask that my appreciation be extended by those whose names I know.
Thank you Marty, Scott, Jeff and Mike! Bill Welch
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Re: IM ACF Sherwin Williams Covered Hoppers
Rich C
My guess would be dried pigments. I know they hauled linseed oil in their tank cars. Rich Christie
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:45 PM, Brian Carlson wrote: I’m trying to get some modeling down while off on the holidays. I have an IM Sherwin Williams 1958 CF Covered Hopper. I’ve made the required updates but I am at a lose to how I should weather the car. What did these carry? RPC 27 isn’t much help since most photos are builders photos. Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga, NY
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IM ACF Sherwin Williams Covered Hoppers
I’m trying to get some modeling down while off on the holidays. I have an IM Sherwin Williams 1958 CF Covered Hopper. I’ve made the required updates but I am at a lose to how I should weather the car. What did these carry? RPC 27 isn’t much help since most photos are builders photos.
Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga, NY
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Re: UPHS Stock Car
WILLIAM PARDIE
Brian:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
The article was one of Richard's excellent offerings. It was in the Fall 2009 issue (Volume 23 NO. 4) of the streamliner. The car is an S-40-6. I believe that I left that off of my original post. Bill Pardie
On Dec 25, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike Brock wrote:
Bill Pardie rites:
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UP Kitbash 40' Double Door SERVICE Help
JoelDee
UP Challenger Merchandise Service UP Two-tone Grey Express Service UP Armour Yellow Express Service
On the Athearn site all these boxcars were offered in 2005-8 and are here: Athearn page covering the UP express boxcars released between 2005 and 2008and here: http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=40%27+Box+RTR+Double&CatID=THRF&RN=UP. All shown are double door 40' boxcars
I also read that the 40' double door boxcars Athearn used were a hold over from their purchase of Model Die Casting and it looks as if similar boxcars, under numerous Flags were produced by Roundhouse and may be during the same time period and from the same production mold as well.
Although the paint schemes may (or may not?) be correct for all the boxcars Athearn used to create double door sales, I need some direction to clarify how the UP Service boxcars were specifically painted and how the exterior structure should be created in an accurate model.
I would appreciate all input and direction, especially from individuals who have modeled these particular boxcars, or modeled the 40s-50s double door boxcar on which it looks to be based.
I hope you can help, Joeldee/Berlin
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historical maps
Slightly off topic but there I know many railroad fans are also avid map
readers and there are some fascinating US maps here including railroads, land grants, mail routes, and many other things from the 19th and 20th centuries. http://dsl.richmond.edu/historicalatlas/ Tim O'Connor
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Re: Kit bash help
Thanks Ben, I'll do some digging and see what I can find on the numbering. The photo is really neat, what an unusual car and the roof extension. That may make a good project. Fenton Wells
So many projects....so little time.
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
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Re: Kit bash help
Benjamin Hom
Fenton Wells wrote:
"I do have a shot of NYC S-55999 which is in the family of cars I'm looking at. It is in the Train Shed Cyclopedia No. 3 which covers the 1931 CBC. I'll have to find what number that would have been in the early 1950's." Good luck. From Terry Link's website, Lot 610-B, NYC 55000-55999, "Various cars renumbered NYC 199000-199999 starting in 1941. Renumbered NYC 214000-214999 starting in 1952. Renumbered NYC 223000-223999 starting in 1959." http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/NYC-MODELS-FREIGHT2.htm http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/nyc-199384.jpg Ben Hom
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