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Re: ERDX Reefers

StephenT
 

Good Evening,


So going back to Roger Hinman's post above, 1950 was an important cutoff date for these cars.  The discussion then focused on the best model for pre-1950.  Does anyone have a suggestion for the best kit for post-1950?  Some of the more available kits (Intermountain, etc) look pretty close, but I am not too sure.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you,

Stephen


Re: pause for yard identification

Steven D Johnson
 

As for the date, perhaps this will help narrow it down a bit:  the L&N boxcar coupled to the A&S RS2 wears “The Old Reliable” slogan, which made its debut on freight cars in late 1951. 

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of blindog@...
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 1:36 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] pause for yard identification

 

 

Tim O'Connor asked:

>Any ideas? My only guess is East St Louis, Alton & Southern -- but
>I can't find the diesel's paint scheme on the web.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12237647925/

Definitely an Alton & Southern RS2. And since the image is flipped,
you're looking west or southwest. The sun angle makes me think it's
close to midday. Time frame is early to mid '50s. Dr. Hendrickson
could probably narrow it now to a year, maybe even a month....

Scott Chatfield


Re: Help locating Intermountain Reefer kits

North Model Railroad Supplies <nmrs@...>
 

Joel,
IM kits have only been available direct from IM for several years now. While there still may be some kits floating around hobby shop shelves, train shows and eBay, hobby shops cannot (AFAIK) order them.
Bruce Smith

 

 

Hi Bruce,

Dealers can buy kits when they are available at the same discount they buy all other Intermountain products.

 

Hi Joel,

For some time IM’s website has been terribly inaccurate in terms of whether an item is in stock or not.

Some months ago, IM started sending monthly “In Stock” lists to dealers, to provide a more accurate summary from month to month.

I just had a look at the Jan 14th list and the R-40-10 kit is NOT listed – so is out of stock.

As one would imagine, the kits are run at the same time as RTR cars using that body are produced.

You can contact your IM dealer and ask him to reserve some kits for you, and they will be available shortly after the RTR are released.

 

Cheers

Dave North

(Whose son has an Intermountain dealership)


Scullin 40-ton ARA TMW truck

Andy Carlson
 

I have the latest Tahoe Truck, the aforementioned 40-ton Scullin truck available for purchase. Has Barber lateral motion device.

The price is $4.00/pair, plus shipping of $2.85/ order. Note: the trucks are sold less wheelsets. TMW #014.

I also have available as #214 the same truck with semi-scale wheels in factory packaging. $7.00/pair.
Contact me off-list at for details. I accept checks and money orders.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


From: Gary Roe <wabashrr@...>


 
Good news is that I got a mailing from Tahoe Model Works today announcing their newest truck.  It is a 40 Ton ARA with Barber Lateral Motion Detail.  The bad news is that it is to be their next to last truck.  The last truck will utilize the same side frame; but with detail representing a conventional bolster.
 
Brian cites failing eyesight as the cause for his retirement from tooling.
 
gary roe
quincy, illinois
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Re: Good News - Bad News

Gary Roe
 

Woops!  Forgot the IC, who the truck was developed for.
 
gary


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Gary Roe
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:12 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Good News - Bad News

 

Brian,
 
The sheet lists the following users:
 
C&NW
DL&W
NP
SL-SF
NWX
WRX
NADX
NATX
 
gary roe
quincy, illinois
 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Brian carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:06 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Good News - Bad News

 

Gary did he provide a list of users?

Bummer, his stuff is excellent!
Brian Carlson 


On Feb 1, 2014, at 6:59 PM, "Gary Roe" <wabashrr@...> wrote:

 

Good news is that I got a mailing from Tahoe Model Works today announcing their newest truck.  It is a 40 Ton ARA with Barber Lateral Motion Detail.  The bad news is that it is to be their next to last truck.  The last truck will utilize the same side frame; but with detail representing a conventional bolster.
 
Brian cites failing eyesight as the cause for his retirement from tooling.
 
gary roe
quincy, illinois


Re: Good News - Bad News

Gary Roe
 

Brian,
 
The sheet lists the following users:
 
C&NW
DL&W
NP
SL-SF
NWX
WRX
NADX
NATX
 
gary roe
quincy, illinois
 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Brian carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:06 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Good News - Bad News

 

Gary did he provide a list of users?

Bummer, his stuff is excellent!
Brian Carlson 


On Feb 1, 2014, at 6:59 PM, "Gary Roe" <wabashrr@...> wrote:

 

Good news is that I got a mailing from Tahoe Model Works today announcing their newest truck.  It is a 40 Ton ARA with Barber Lateral Motion Detail.  The bad news is that it is to be their next to last truck.  The last truck will utilize the same side frame; but with detail representing a conventional bolster.
 
Brian cites failing eyesight as the cause for his retirement from tooling.
 
gary roe
quincy, illinois


Re: Good News - Bad News

Brian Carlson
 

Gary did he provide a list of users?

Bummer, his stuff is excellent!
Brian Carlson 


On Feb 1, 2014, at 6:59 PM, "Gary Roe" <wabashrr@...> wrote:

 

Good news is that I got a mailing from Tahoe Model Works today announcing their newest truck.  It is a 40 Ton ARA with Barber Lateral Motion Detail.  The bad news is that it is to be their next to last truck.  The last truck will utilize the same side frame; but with detail representing a conventional bolster.
 
Brian cites failing eyesight as the cause for his retirement from tooling.
 
gary roe
quincy, illinois


Good News - Bad News

Gary Roe
 

Good news is that I got a mailing from Tahoe Model Works today announcing their newest truck.  It is a 40 Ton ARA with Barber Lateral Motion Detail.  The bad news is that it is to be their next to last truck.  The last truck will utilize the same side frame; but with detail representing a conventional bolster.
 
Brian cites failing eyesight as the cause for his retirement from tooling.
 
gary roe
quincy, illinois


Rapido Reefer

Mark
 

Greetings, just arrived from Columbus Ohio, saw the grandsons. Most of all The TrainStation has some of the reefers yet! Purchased two. They do ship so you might want to call first and they are on Facebook too!

Phone 614-262-9056

Mark Morgan


Re: nice NYS&W single sheathed boxcar

Benjamin Scanlon
 

I dug up the thread in the erielack mail list and discovered my error.  Thanks Eric.

 

Disposing of the PS1s seems to have been a daft decision, not the only one in that era. 

 

Ben


Re: nice NYS&W single sheathed boxcar

Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 


Yes, that's where the PS-1s they ordered new went, but apparently not the ex NWSW ones. Those 8 cars remain the most annoying hole in LNE dospositions.
 
Eric
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RE: nice NYS&W single sheathed boxcar

 

IIRC, the suggestion in an old discussion I dug up on this was that the PS1s that went to the L&NE went to the SOO ? Does that ring any bells?

 

Ben Scanlon

London, UK


Re: nice NYS&W single sheathed boxcar

Benjamin Scanlon
 

IIRC, the suggestion in an old discussion I dug up on this was that the PS1s that went to the L&NE went to the SOO ? Does that ring any bells?

 

Ben Scanlon

London, UK


Re: nice NYS&W single sheathed boxcar

Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 


I have NYSW 403-435 to MON 541-565 in 1956 and LNE 9051-9058 in 1956-57. Only NYSW 401-402 remained. The mystery is, what happened to the LNE cars when they sold off all their newer equipment a few years later? Anyone have 8 second hand PS-1s with unknown origins? The built date should be 11-52 or thereabouts..
 
Eric N.

That sounds about right.  From memory there were 11 36' cars left in 1959, but having recently sold just about all their their PS1s to the Monon and I believe, the L&NE, I suppose the NYS&W had little other choice.

 

The operation looked quite interesting, involving a train consisting of an RS1, MP54 combine, one of the corrugated Budd coaches with a boxcar bringing up the rear.  I think some NYS&W PS1s had brackets for marker lights for that reason.  I do not know if the 36' cars did too.

 

Regards

 

Ben Scanlon


Re: nice NYS&W single sheathed boxcar

Benjamin Scanlon
 

That sounds about right.  From memory there were 11 36' cars left in 1959, but having recently sold just about all their their PS1s to the Monon and I believe, the L&NE, I suppose the NYS&W had little other choice.

 

The operation looked quite interesting, involving a train consisting of an RS1, MP54 combine, one of the corrugated Budd coaches with a boxcar bringing up the rear.  I think some NYS&W PS1s had brackets for marker lights for that reason.  I do not know if the 36' cars did too.

 

Regards

 

Ben Scanlon


Re: C&NW freight car brown color

Tim Meyer
 

Hi All 

While we are talking about CNW boxcar colors and TCP. Can someone recommend a TCP paint that would be suitable for the Westerfield CNW Fowler boxcars?

An article in The O Scale Resource states the following: “In a 1910 history of the C&NW, they called for the paint to be made from ore mined in North Freedom, Wisconsin.”

Thanks:

Tim Meyer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a 1910 history of the

C&NW, they called for the paint to be

made from ore mined in North Freedom,

Wisconsin.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a 1910 history of the

C&NW, they called for the paint to be

made from ore mined in North Freedom,

Wisconsin.

 

 

 

Thanks:

Tim Meyer


Re: C&NW freight car brown color

Tim O'Connor
 


Tony, I second that opinion. I bought the yellow and green depot colors
(need to get the trim brown too) as well as Daylight Red and Orange (which
is also PFE Orange) and they look perfect as well. I didn't notice if he
had an SP Sea Foam Green...

Tim O'Connor


  And Rick Galazzo at TCP has been calling on other experts for color information too.
  I shared with him my SP color chips (Bowles Color Drifts) for SP depot colors, and can
  verify that the ones they produced are spot on.
  Tony Thompson


Re: AB Air Brakes

Tim O'Connor
 

Paul

Here's a prototype lettering document you can buy
http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=13677

Found it with Google Image search.

Tim O'Connor

I think this was asked before, but what data is usually printed on the AB air-tank? I can't find a photo on the net anywhere.
Thanks, Paul Hillman


Re: C&NW freight car brown color

Tony Thompson
 

Norm Buckhart wrote:

Fenton - I heartily recommend the new TCP paints.  They have put a great effort into mixing the correct formulas to match the original ACF and P-S paint chips.  Ed Hawkins is a consultant on this and he and Pat Wider have clippings from all the actual bill of materials Bowles drift cards from the ACF factory before it closed.  Between 1943 and 1959, the C&NW used a lot of DuPont CNW #3 which matches TCP-925.  You can buy this either from Protocraft or TCP directly.  The original and correct colors are rather dark and you may want to experiment with replicating some oxidation using a few drops of TCP-179 gray.  

       And Rick Galazzo at TCP has been calling on other experts for color information too. I shared with him my SP color chips (Bowles Color Drifts) for SP depot colors, and can verify that the ones they produced are spot on.

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Re: C&NW freight car brown color

Anspach Denny <danspachmd@...>
 

Fenton Wells comments-

>I've never used these paints [TCP Tru Color] so maybe this is a good time to
>try. I've got to figure out where to buy them.

These are indeed extremely fine paints; very forgiving, and very familiar to those who used and loved the old Accupaints (TCP purchased the Accupaint business remnants), and are currently essentially the same formulation. The high gloss with its slightly reduced cover is a little off-putting for those of us who have spent a lifetime (YES) with high cover flat paints.  

Rick Galazzo at TCP relates that they might be coming out with some flat finishes by this summer.  In the meantime, while husbanding my inventory of Floquil finishes, I am having to figure out how I can be more comfortable in developing routines for managing routine gloss finishes where flat finishes would have done best (sigh!).

Denny


Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento

Please make note of my new eMail address.


Re: C&NW freight car brown color

Tim O'Connor
 

Ya know, I saw an incredible variety of TCP "box car red" colors for
sale at the Big E train show, and I even bought a few bottles. But I
basically chose them by COLOR, not road name.

WHEN are people going to let go of the idea that there is a "correct"
freight car color for a particular railroad freight car model? If you
use a variety of shades, and a variety of weathering and fading techniques,
your freight car fleet is going to look very good. If you simply buy
"C&NW #3" and apply that to all of your C&NW freight cars, they're not
going to look right, unless you only model a new car assembly line.

Which is not to bash TCP. I love the variety of colors they offer!

Tim O'Connor

Fenton - I heartily recommend the new TCP paints. They have put a great effort into mixing the correct formulas to match the original ACF and P-S paint chips. Ed Hawkins is a consultant on this and he and Pat Wider have clippings from all the actual bill of materials Bowles drift cards from the ACF factory before it closed. Between 1943 and 1959, the C&NW used a lot of DuPont CNW #3 which matches TCP-925. You can buy this either from Protocraft or TCP directly. The original and correct colors are rather dark and you may want to experiment with replicating some oxidation using a few drops of TCP-179 gray. Norm Buckhart

73821 - 73840 of 195615