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Brian Termunde
 

Ok, my relief is late, so I tried to do a seach, I can't even find if there was a post discussion on this! I click on discussion and enter a topic and click search. If something comes up, I can only look at the first few messages. Grrr! Crappy Yahoo!

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT
 
"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"


UP 155000

Brian Termunde
 

In need for a box car for Auto service on my 1953 era PNW railway (N Scale), I just purchased a Micro-Trains UP 50 foot box. Link at:
 
 
However now that I got it, I look a look at my UP Freight car book to see if I could find any info on it. Well she graces the cover and I can see that she was a one of kind car. Oops, I do not care too much for unique cars. Well I have it, so my question is, even though 155000 was a one of car, it looks to be somewhat close to other UP 50 footers, at least to my untrained (no pun intended) eye. Considering the limited range of accurate steam era freight cars available (especially for auto service), am I at least in the ball park (preferably not out in left field though) with this car?
 
Basically I'm looking for a car that would be delivering autos to a car dealer in a smaller town in Washington State circa 1953. I had intended to try to look through the archives on both UP 155000 and auto deliveries, but I did not get a chance to do so today, so if it is there, I do intend to look, but any info would still be appreciated!
 
TIA!

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT
 
"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"


Any thoughts on the boxcars visible in this image?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,

Any thoughts on the boxcars visible in this image?

Numbering from left to right, it seems to me that cars 1 and 2 may be identical except for the doors, and are both SP.

The third car looks to have a pressed steel underframe, and might also be lettered SP

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12238242906/sizes/o/in/photostream/

- Claus Schlund


Chrysler trucks

Andy Carlson
 

And I have stopped lobbying Brian Leppert for a Chrysler truck after he said that his multiple slide mold base will not allow the distinctive shock absorber. Almost every Branchline GARX 50' box car would be a candidate for a Chrysler.
-Andy ?Carlson
Ojai CA


From: Richard Hendrickson
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Trucks for B&O M-53

 
On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Didn't Athearn produce B-1 trucks as well?
Yes, they did, but AFAIK they are not currently available.

Every single time I see Sam Clarke I tell him I will buy his trucks once he starts selling them with .088 wheels.
I suggest EVERYBODY do the same. Manufacturers will give in to demand, strangely enough.
Tim, all of Kadee’s trucks are available with .088 wheels if you order direct from Kadee.  They are happy to assemble trucks with .088 wheels, but they haven’t cataloged them or offered them to dealers as yet because of the complications of, essentially, doubling the quantity of trucks in stock and of truck stock numbers.

And where is the CHRYSLER truck??? Egads do I have to make one myself to guarantee that at least five
different vendors will immediately release this truck as soon as I've finished? :-)
More than one HO scale truck manufacturer has contemplated producing a Chrysler truck but decided against it because so few of the prototype trucks were used in revenue service, and those that were generally didn’t last long.  Granted, if you’e trying to model a car that had them, it’s a distinctive truck and not easy to reproduce accurately.  But sales wouldn’t even begin to cover tooling costs.

Richard Hendrickson



Re: MDC B&LE roller bearing trucks w/outside brake hangers

Tony Thompson
 

Mike Bradley wrote:

Does anyone know if the trucks that MDC/Roundhouse included with their B&LE 3 bay offset side hopper (70 ton roller bearing w/outside brake hanger) are available from Athearn?  I have been unable to find it on their parts list.  Also, if you know the part number, I'd greatly appreciate it.

        Athearn lists a certain amount of their parts on their web site, but MANY others are not listed, mostly because of smaller sales numbers. WHENEVER you want an Athearn part and don't find it on their site, send them an email (the contact is on the parts page) and ask. They will give you the part number and you can then order from them.
         To answer your question, yes, these trucks have been available recently (though I cannot promise for today), so do inquire. If somehow you fail to get the part number, let me know and I will get it.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Trucks for B&O M-53

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Didn't Athearn produce B-1 trucks as well?

Yes, they did, but AFAIK they are not currently available.

Every single time I see Sam Clarke I tell him I will buy his trucks once he starts selling them with .088 wheels.
I suggest EVERYBODY do the same. Manufacturers will give in to demand, strangely enough.

Tim, all of Kadee’s trucks are available with .088 wheels if you order direct from Kadee.  They are happy to assemble trucks with .088 wheels, but they haven’t cataloged them or offered them to dealers as yet because of the complications of, essentially, doubling the quantity of trucks in stock and of truck stock numbers.


And where is the CHRYSLER truck??? Egads do I have to make one myself to guarantee that at least five
different vendors will immediately release this truck as soon as I've finished? :-)

More than one HO scale truck manufacturer has contemplated producing a Chrysler truck but decided against it because so few of the prototype trucks were used in revenue service, and those that were generally didn’t last long.  Granted, if you’e trying to model a car that had them, it’s a distinctive truck and not easy to reproduce accurately.  But sales wouldn’t even begin to cover tooling costs.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Unknown Freight Car Move ca 1935

Ray Breyer
 

Hi John,
 
Not military. They look more like yurts to me, meaning that they're actually shepherd's wagons.
 
Odd to see a technology that antique riding the rails in the late 1930s.
 
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL
 

From: "whstlpnk@..."
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:18 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Unknown Freight Car Move ca 1935



All-

I've uploaded an image to the Files section (GN Pasco WA circa 1935 JWB.jpg) showing a GN move of coaches, flats and stock cars. Of interest are the loads on the two flats -- truck tractors and what appear to be Army chuckwagons. Can anyone tell for sure? There is some doubt as to the Army chuckwagons claim per one Northwest modeler as the wagons "aren't camouflaged enough."

Any help appreciated,
John Phillips
Seattle





B&O M-53 door

Bill Lane
 

Does anyone have a drawing for the flat door for the M53? Even a hand sketch might do. Is it in any Car Builders? I have 3 of them.

 

Please reply directly to bill@...

 

 

Thank You,
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Drawing or photos of Air Inlet, Siphon Pipe Housing & Outlet Valve Operating Mechanism on Tank Car Dome

Bill Welch
 

I am working on a little tank car project for a resin kit seller and would like to find photos or side drawings of the following devices or fitting on the subject's tank dome: 1-inch Air Inlet, Siphon Pipe Housing & Outlet Valve Operating Mechanism. Please contact off list below if you can help bring this to fruition.

Believe me, I realize this is a stretch but it never hurts to ask. Thank you for your attention!

Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622
727.470.9930



Re: Rapido Reefer

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:48 PM, TGREGMRTN@... wrote:

Thanks for posting the excellent photos. Near the end I noticed the photos of the underframe and then saw the truck bolster. Is it the photos or me, the appear somewhat unique to the car. I am wondering if they are interchangeable with other trucks? or the trucks on that car are interchangeable with anything other than this car?
 
Greg, I’ve already replaced the trucks on one of my models with Tahoe trucks (matching the URTX prototype I want to model) and there’s no problem at all.  coupler height remains standard.

Richard Hendrickson



Rapido reefers

Norman+Laraine Larkin
 

Received 6 of them, all perfect.
Norm Larkin


Re: MDC B&LE roller bearing trucks w/outside brake hangers

Mike Bradley
 

Does anyone know if the trucks that MDC/Roundhouse included with their B&LE 3 bay offset side hopper (70 ton roller bearing w/outside brake hanger) are available from Athearn?  I have been unable to find it on their parts list.  Also, if you know the part number, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thank You,
Michael Bradley
Sharpsville, PA


Re: Unknown Freight Car Move ca 1935

J.A. Phillips
 

All-


I've uploaded an image to the Files section (GN Pasco WA circa 1935 JWB.jpg) showing a GN move of coaches, flats and stock cars. Of interest are the loads on the two flats -- truck tractors and what appear to be Army chuckwagons. Can anyone tell for sure? There is some doubt as to the Army chuckwagons claim per one Northwest modeler as the wagons "aren't camouflaged enough."


Any help appreciated,

John Phillips

Seattle


Re: Trucks for B&O M-53

Jim Barnes
 

Athearn's Santa Fe 50ft ice reefer, Rr-30, did come with National B-1 trucks and I too wish Athearn would issue offer this truck as a separate part.  Their truck had good detail and rolled well.  A suggestion to them to offer this truck separately couldn't hurt.
Jim Barnes


From: Tim O'Connor
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2014 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Trucks for B&O M-53

 

Didn't Athearn produce B-1 trucks as well?

Every single time I see Sam Clarke I tell him I will buy his trucks once he starts selling them with .088 wheels.
I suggest EVERYBODY do the same. Manufacturers will give in to demand, strangely enough.

And where is the CHRYSLER truck??? Egads do I have to make one myself to guarantee that at least five
different vendors will immediately release this truck as soon as I've finished? :-)

Tim O'Connor


 Sad indeed. I was hoping that Brian would issue National B-1 trucks, since the Walthers version has been unavailable for some time,
 and I知 not a big fan of Kadee wheels. As far as I know, Walthers and Kadee are the only manufactures to offer National B-1 trucks
 Nelson Moyer




Re: Santa Fe '37 AAR Prototype Photo Please

Richard Hendrickson
 


On Feb 2, 2014, at 7:37 PM, twinstarcars@... wrote:

I am looking for a prototype picture of the Red Caboose '37 40' AAR box car. Which roof walk would they have had in 1958? Also wondering if they ever had the Viking roof?

Ross, as others have pointed out, the Santa Fe owned only one class of AAR steel box cars that were 10’0” high inside, the Bx-27 class (2,000 cars).  Built in 1937, they had 5/4 square-cornered Dreadnaught ends, Youngstown corrugated doors, Murphy rectangular panel steel roofs, wood running boards, Ajax hand brakes, and ASF self-aligning spring-plankless trucks.  Most important, from a modeling viewpoint, they had Duryea cushion underframes, so the spacing of the cross ties and side sill tabs was different than the AAR standard design and the brake rigging was suspended below the sliding center sill rather than being attached to it.  The Santa Fe never owned any house cars with Viuking corrugated steel roofs, and they never replaced wood running boards with steel.

In 1958 most of the cars in the Bx-27 class would have been repainted with post-1947 slogans on the left side and “Ship and Travel Santa Fe” on the right; few cars would have survived that long with the earlier slogans and maps that were applied from 1940 to mid-1947 (and none would have still had their original 1937 point and lettering).  I’m sending you some photos off-list which illustrate the post-1947 P/L scheme and side views showing the Duryea underframe, side sill tabs, etc.

Richard Hendrickson



Yahoo Hacked

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

All,
 
My apologies to all who may have received an email with name and not subject matter.  Apparently, my Yahoo account was hacked; I've changed my passwords and hopefully that will clear everything up.
 
Jim Brewer
Glenwood MD


Re: Santa Fe '37 AAR Prototype Photo Please

twinstarcars
 

Thank you! Forgot to use my google.


Ross



Re: Rapido Reefer

Greg Martin
 

Matt,
 
Thanks for posting the excellent photos. Near the end I noticed the photos of the underframe and then saw the truck bolster. Is it the photos or me, the appear somewhat unique to the car. I am wondering if they are interchangeable with other trucks? or the trucks on that car are interchangeable with anything other than this car?
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 2/2/2014 9:25:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, goodman312@... writes:
Group, 

Apologies for the last email as it was intended for Mark Morgan - unnecessary noise for this list.

However, since the trip to the Train Station referenced in that email, I've taken and posted photos of the car and am presenting the gallery link here for inspection:

http://goodman312.zenfolio.com/p755987833 
 
I can't add anything to the comments already made about detail and constuction.  My example seems to fall midway between those with models with detached parts and those that had perfect examples.

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio


Re: Santa Fe '37 AAR Prototype Photo Please

Tim O'Connor
 

I am looking for a prototype picture of the Red Caboose '37 40' AAR box car.
Which roof walk would they have had in 1958? Also wondering if they ever had
the Viking roof? Thanks, Ross

Ross

They had plain rectangular panel roofs, and wood running boards. Some
if not all cars still had their original running boards in 1958. They
had plain grabirons (rather than bracket grabs), and Duryea underframes.

Tim O'Connor

P.S. GOOGLE IMAGES is your friend -- use it!

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1359&bih=1031&q=santa+fe+%22bx-27%22&oq=santa+fe+%22bx-27%22&gs_l=img.3...1212.6486.0.6742.16.16.0.0.0.0.121.1297.14j2.16.0.ernk_timecombined...0...1.1.32.img..5.11.918.I6Z1KuJ3HBc


Re: Trucks for B&O M-53

Tim O'Connor
 


Didn't Athearn produce B-1 trucks as well?

Every single time I see Sam Clarke I tell him I will buy his trucks once he starts selling them with .088 wheels.
I suggest EVERYBODY do the same. Manufacturers will give in to demand, strangely enough.

And where is the CHRYSLER truck??? Egads do I have to make one myself to guarantee that at least five
different vendors will immediately release this truck as soon as I've finished? :-)

Tim O'Connor


 Sad indeed. I was hoping that Brian would issue National B-1 trucks, since the Walthers version has been unavailable for some time,
 and I�m not a big fan of Kadee wheels. As far as I know, Walthers and Kadee are the only manufactures to offer National B-1 trucks
 Nelson Moyer

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