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Re: Rapido Meat Reefers - Brake Reservoir

Armand Premo
 


    My only complaint,if you can call it that,is that the reweight dates need minor adjustment.Armand Premo

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Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 2:02 PM
Subject: [STMFC] RE: Rapido Meat Reefers - Brake Reservoir

 

Bill,

  When I talked about misaligned parts in my original post, less than horizontal air reservoirs were one of the problems...4 out of 7, along with 3 out of 7 non-vertical brake wheels, 2 warpped roof walks, 50% bent stirrup steps, 100% non-attachment of piping to triple valve, 4 out of 7 cut levers, wire grabs pushed all the way in, leaving no space between the car body, brake levers and rodding not connected and all over the place. The lever hangers are in no way attached to the frame as they should be. Throw away the couplers.

   I find it incredulous that others on this list, many involved in the development and research of this model, have experienced no problems.  Mark Feddersen


Re: Any thoughts on the boxcars visible in this image?

Tim O'Connor
 

... the car you are asking about is out of the B50-1/2/4/5 series of
> cars they are very similar to each other, and are available from Westerfield
> Hope this helps Paul Doggett

That's incorrect Paul. The car is too small to be one of those cars. It's
most likely a CS-33, a Huntington Common Standard box car with Pressed Steel
underframe.

Tim O'Connor


Re: UP 155000

Eric Lombard
 

Brian,

I hope the following is helpful to you...You may also find some helpful information in the appendices of the UP book that you mention having (with #155000 on the cover).

A total of 1000 A-50-14 and A-50-15 cars were built 1937-40. The two classes are virtually identical.
500 with racks:
    100 A-50-14, 454000 - 454099  Grand Is.
    400 A-50-15, 454400 - 454799  Omaha
200 with end auto doors:
    100 A-50-14, 161000 - 161099  Omaha
    100 A-50-15, 161100 - 161199  Omaha
300 plain:
    100 A-50-14, 154100 - 154199  Grand Is.
    200 A-50-15, 154200 - 154399  Omaha
Many RENO in some way by 1953. You might consider both A-50-14 and A-50-15 cars with no end doors from the following list that fit the service you indicate. Cars set up for auto parts are not included nor those modified in some obvious way such as raised roof. Number active on 1-1953 in parentheses:

UP 454000-454099, A-50-14 (79) Evans Type T auto loaders.
UP 861000-861099, A-50-14 (7) set up for International Harvester, aux door sealed. (may be parts and not implements).

UP 454400-454799, A-50-15 (290) Evans Type T auto loaders.
UP 154200-154399, A-50-14 (12) original series numbers as XM.

#155000, by the way, was renumbered from #154132 with an Evans auto loader installed and in service in 1946 but gone by 1951.

Cheers,
Eric Lombard
Homewood, IL




SAL stock cars

Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 

I'm looking to confirm 200 stock cars built for WSC&F (or "West. Street") in about 1917-1918. The likely series seems to be SAL 51000-51199, but these are largely gone by 1-27. Any ideas?
 
Thanks,
Eric N.


Re: Rapido Meat Reefers - Brake Reservoir

James E Kubanick
 

I had the same problem with two of my reefers and corrected them as Ed suggested, above. A third car had a loose cut lever which I corrected with a drop of ACC. My fourth car needed no repairs. All four came from Walthers. Very nice cars once fixed, though.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV



From: Ed Hawkins
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Rapido Meat Reefers - Brake Reservoir


On Feb 4, 2014, at 8:55 AM, <webotkin@...> wrote:

> Viewed from the side of the car, the reservoirs on all three cars are
> all mounted at an angle with the right side noticeably higher off the
> rail than the left side.  I have not noticed this on other models and
> wondered if this correct or a manufacturing defect. 
>
> At first I thought perhaps the part was not seated properly, but
> without breaking it loose from its mounting, it doesn't shift.

Bill,

One I received was the same way with a reservoir that wasn't level.
Check the reservoir bracket that extends to the center sill. On my
model this bracket was pushed under the center sill flange (when
looking at the car upside down). I carefully maneuvered the bracket to
rest on top of the center sill flange, and this straightened the
reservoir to become level. Hope this helps.

Bill Schneider, please chime in if I'm giving out bad advice.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Rapido Meat Reefers - Brake Reservoir

feddersenmark
 

Bill,

  When I talked about misaligned parts in my original post, less than horizontal air reservoirs were one of the problems...4 out of 7, along with 3 out of 7 non-vertical brake wheels, 2 warpped roof walks, 50% bent stirrup steps, 100% non-attachment of piping to triple valve, 4 out of 7 cut levers, wire grabs pushed all the way in, leaving no space between the car body, brake levers and rodding not connected and all over the place. The lever hangers are in no way attached to the frame as they should be. Throw away the couplers.

   I find it incredulous that others on this list, many involved in the development and research of this model, have experienced no problems.  Mark Feddersen


Re: Rapido Meat Reefers - Brake Reservoir

Ed Hawkins
 

On Feb 4, 2014, at 8:55 AM, <webotkin@ecentral.com> wrote:

Viewed from the side of the car, the reservoirs on all three cars are
all mounted at an angle with the right side noticeably higher off the
rail than the left side.  I have not noticed this on other models and
wondered if this correct or a manufacturing defect. 

At first I thought perhaps the part was not seated properly, but
without breaking it loose from its mounting, it doesn't shift.
Bill,
One I received was the same way with a reservoir that wasn't level.
Check the reservoir bracket that extends to the center sill. On my
model this bracket was pushed under the center sill flange (when
looking at the car upside down). I carefully maneuvered the bracket to
rest on top of the center sill flange, and this straightened the
reservoir to become level. Hope this helps.

Bill Schneider, please chime in if I'm giving out bad advice.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Before Cardboard Appliance Containers

thecitrusbelt@...
 

This 1935 staged publicity photo is from the Pasadena Digital History website and is captioned, “Delivery of washers for the H.B. Woods Maytag Shop, 26 North Raymond, Pasadena”.  It illustrates the packing technology of that time, before cardboard and Styrofoam.

 

http://collection.pasadenadigitalhistory.com/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15123coll2/id/443/rec/37

 

Use the slider above the image to enlarge it.  There is some nice detail shown on the B&O boxcar to the left.

 

From the stenciling the Rock Island automobile box car on the right appears to have been built in 1910.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet


Rapido Meat Reefers - Brake Reservoir

webotkin
 

just picked up my three Rapido meat reefers from Caboose Hobbies and though they don't exhibit any problems as previously discussed, I have a question about the brake reservoir:


Viewed from the side of the car, the reservoirs on all three cars are all mounted at an angle with the right side noticeably higher off the rail than the left side.  I have not noticed this on other models and wondered if this correct or a manufacturing defect. 


At first I thought perhaps the part was not seated properly, but without breaking it loose from its mounting, it doesn't shift.


Finally, if any one is still looking for these models, Caboose Hobbies in Denver still has  good supply of both the decorated and undecorated kits on the shelf as of yesterday.


Bill Botkin

Centennial,CO


Re: Any thoughts on the boxcars visible in this image?

paul.doggett2472@...
 

Hi Claus

              The photo is back to front! the car you are asking about is out of the B50-1/2/4/5 series of cars they are very similar to each other,  and are available from Westerfield 

Hope this helps Paul Doggett

England


Re: Any thoughts on the boxcars visible in this image?

Tim O'Connor
 

I forgot to add, the location looks like Martinez, California to me.

Tim O'Connor

Any thoughts on the boxcars visible in this image?

Numbering from left to right, it seems to me that cars 1 and 2 may be identical except for the doors, and are both SP.

The third car looks to have a pressed steel underframe, and might also be lettered SP

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12238242906/sizes/o/in/photostream/

- Claus Schlund


Re: Any thoughts on the boxcars visible in this image?

Tim O'Connor
 

Claus

They are all SP box cars -- in fact I think they are all
Huntington Common Standard box cars. The smaller cars were
34' (I think) and the larger cars were 39'. But without legible
numbers that's my best guess. The Huntington cars are covered in
great detail with lots of photos in the SP Freight Cars Volume 4.

Tim O'Connor



Numbering from left to right, it seems to me that cars 1 and 2 may be
identical except for the doors, and are both SP.
The third car looks to have a pressed steel underframe, and might also be lettered SP
http://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12238242906/sizes/o/in/photostream/
- Claus Schlund


Re: UP 155000

Tim O'Connor
 


The other A-50-14's were in a different number series. The number 155000
was not in use in 1940 or 1950, so it must have been short lived, if in
fact it was ever in revenue service.

Tim O'Connor



Well, the car is one-of-a-kind because it had an Evans loader inside.  But since your model is of a closed car, I�d say that it�s fine.  There were a bunch of A-50-14 cars, but some had end doors, which this model does not.
 
Regards,
 
-Jeff
 
 
In need for a box car for Auto service on my 1953 era PNW railway (N Scale), I just purchased a Micro-Trains UP 50 foot box. Link at:
 
http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Micro-Trains-N-50-Box-Car-UP-p/mtl-03400350.htm
 
However now that I got it, I look a look at my UP Freight car book to see if I could find any info on it. Well she graces the cover and I can see that she was a one of kind car. Oops, I do not care too much for unique cars. Well I have it, so my question is, even though 155000 was a one of car, it looks to be somewhat close to other UP 50 footers, at least to my untrained (no pun intended) eye. Considering the limited range of accurate steam era freight cars available (especially for auto service), am I at least in the ball park (preferably not out in left field though) with this car?
 
Basically I'm looking for a car that would be delivering autos to a car dealer in a smaller town in Washington State circa 1953. I had intended to try to look through the archives on both UP 155000 and auto deliveries, but I did not get a chance to do so today, so if it is there, I do intend to look, but any info would still be appreciated!
 
TIA!
Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde


Re: UP 155000

Aley, Jeff A
 

Brian,

 

               Well, the car is one-of-a-kind because it had an Evans loader inside.  But since your model is of a closed car, I’d say that it’s fine.  There were a bunch of A-50-14 cars, but some had end doors, which this model does not.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of GCRDS
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 8:59 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] UP 155000

 

 

In need for a box car for Auto service on my 1953 era PNW railway (N Scale), I just purchased a Micro-Trains UP 50 foot box. Link at:

 

 

However now that I got it, I look a look at my UP Freight car book to see if I could find any info on it. Well she graces the cover and I can see that she was a one of kind car. Oops, I do not care too much for unique cars. Well I have it, so my question is, even though 155000 was a one of car, it looks to be somewhat close to other UP 50 footers, at least to my untrained (no pun intended) eye. Considering the limited range of accurate steam era freight cars available (especially for auto service), am I at least in the ball park (preferably not out in left field though) with this car?

 

Basically I'm looking for a car that would be delivering autos to a car dealer in a smaller town in Washington State circa 1953. I had intended to try to look through the archives on both UP 155000 and auto deliveries, but I did not get a chance to do so today, so if it is there, I do intend to look, but any info would still be appreciated!

 

TIA!

Take Care,

 

Brian R. Termunde

Midvale, UT

 

"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"


Message search

Brian Termunde
 

Ok, my relief is late, so I tried to do a seach, I can't even find if there was a post discussion on this! I click on discussion and enter a topic and click search. If something comes up, I can only look at the first few messages. Grrr! Crappy Yahoo!

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT
 
"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"


UP 155000

Brian Termunde
 

In need for a box car for Auto service on my 1953 era PNW railway (N Scale), I just purchased a Micro-Trains UP 50 foot box. Link at:
 
 
However now that I got it, I look a look at my UP Freight car book to see if I could find any info on it. Well she graces the cover and I can see that she was a one of kind car. Oops, I do not care too much for unique cars. Well I have it, so my question is, even though 155000 was a one of car, it looks to be somewhat close to other UP 50 footers, at least to my untrained (no pun intended) eye. Considering the limited range of accurate steam era freight cars available (especially for auto service), am I at least in the ball park (preferably not out in left field though) with this car?
 
Basically I'm looking for a car that would be delivering autos to a car dealer in a smaller town in Washington State circa 1953. I had intended to try to look through the archives on both UP 155000 and auto deliveries, but I did not get a chance to do so today, so if it is there, I do intend to look, but any info would still be appreciated!
 
TIA!

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT
 
"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"


Any thoughts on the boxcars visible in this image?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,

Any thoughts on the boxcars visible in this image?

Numbering from left to right, it seems to me that cars 1 and 2 may be identical except for the doors, and are both SP.

The third car looks to have a pressed steel underframe, and might also be lettered SP

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12238242906/sizes/o/in/photostream/

- Claus Schlund


Chrysler trucks

Andy Carlson
 

And I have stopped lobbying Brian Leppert for a Chrysler truck after he said that his multiple slide mold base will not allow the distinctive shock absorber. Almost every Branchline GARX 50' box car would be a candidate for a Chrysler.
-Andy ?Carlson
Ojai CA


From: Richard Hendrickson
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Trucks for B&O M-53

 
On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Didn't Athearn produce B-1 trucks as well?
Yes, they did, but AFAIK they are not currently available.

Every single time I see Sam Clarke I tell him I will buy his trucks once he starts selling them with .088 wheels.
I suggest EVERYBODY do the same. Manufacturers will give in to demand, strangely enough.
Tim, all of Kadee’s trucks are available with .088 wheels if you order direct from Kadee.  They are happy to assemble trucks with .088 wheels, but they haven’t cataloged them or offered them to dealers as yet because of the complications of, essentially, doubling the quantity of trucks in stock and of truck stock numbers.

And where is the CHRYSLER truck??? Egads do I have to make one myself to guarantee that at least five
different vendors will immediately release this truck as soon as I've finished? :-)
More than one HO scale truck manufacturer has contemplated producing a Chrysler truck but decided against it because so few of the prototype trucks were used in revenue service, and those that were generally didn’t last long.  Granted, if you’e trying to model a car that had them, it’s a distinctive truck and not easy to reproduce accurately.  But sales wouldn’t even begin to cover tooling costs.

Richard Hendrickson



Re: MDC B&LE roller bearing trucks w/outside brake hangers

Tony Thompson
 

Mike Bradley wrote:

Does anyone know if the trucks that MDC/Roundhouse included with their B&LE 3 bay offset side hopper (70 ton roller bearing w/outside brake hanger) are available from Athearn?  I have been unable to find it on their parts list.  Also, if you know the part number, I'd greatly appreciate it.

        Athearn lists a certain amount of their parts on their web site, but MANY others are not listed, mostly because of smaller sales numbers. WHENEVER you want an Athearn part and don't find it on their site, send them an email (the contact is on the parts page) and ask. They will give you the part number and you can then order from them.
         To answer your question, yes, these trucks have been available recently (though I cannot promise for today), so do inquire. If somehow you fail to get the part number, let me know and I will get it.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
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Re: Trucks for B&O M-53

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Didn't Athearn produce B-1 trucks as well?

Yes, they did, but AFAIK they are not currently available.

Every single time I see Sam Clarke I tell him I will buy his trucks once he starts selling them with .088 wheels.
I suggest EVERYBODY do the same. Manufacturers will give in to demand, strangely enough.

Tim, all of Kadee’s trucks are available with .088 wheels if you order direct from Kadee.  They are happy to assemble trucks with .088 wheels, but they haven’t cataloged them or offered them to dealers as yet because of the complications of, essentially, doubling the quantity of trucks in stock and of truck stock numbers.


And where is the CHRYSLER truck??? Egads do I have to make one myself to guarantee that at least five
different vendors will immediately release this truck as soon as I've finished? :-)

More than one HO scale truck manufacturer has contemplated producing a Chrysler truck but decided against it because so few of the prototype trucks were used in revenue service, and those that were generally didn’t last long.  Granted, if you’e trying to model a car that had them, it’s a distinctive truck and not easy to reproduce accurately.  But sales wouldn’t even begin to cover tooling costs.

Richard Hendrickson

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