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Wanting F&C F22 flat car kit

npin53
 

Any of you fine gentleman have a spare F&C, F22 flat car kit that you would sell?

I know they are on eBay, but I only need one.

Aaron Gjermundson


Re: Joyful modeling?

frograbbit602
 

I too enjoy the research, the build , usually a week, and most of all running the finished car.   I hope I do not get into trouble by saying I run it on my railroad on the Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If you can break away from your modeling to look, you can at www.minn-rail.org , Click on Layouts and then the Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.
Lester Breuer
Minneapolis, MN



tank car for sale

CJ Riley
 

I have an overland LP tank car (1936) for sale:
 $150 priority mail included : check or paypal.
Please respond off list: cjriley42@...


Re: Speedwitch wabash instructions kit #109.3

Jack Burgess
 

Ned...

 

I have both...I'll get you copies.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Ned Carey
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 7:27 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Speedwitch wabash instructions kit #109.3

 




I have a Speedwitch Wabash SS car kit 109.3 with no instructions sheet or prototype info. Does someone have one they could scan for me? I do have pictures in Some speedwitch media books but I don't even know exact class or number series so I'm afraid I will get some details wrong.

 

Alternatively does anyone have a copy of Ted's Essential freight cars from RMC Sept 2007 on Wabash cars?

 

Thanks you,

 

Ned Carey





Re: Sensitive Chuck for Drilling

Jack Burgess
 

Ned...

 

Yes, the resin parts (ends, sides) just lay flat on the drill press table and I move them into place and then hold them from  moving with my hand. I have an X-Y table for my drill press but it is not needed for just drilling holes for grab irons.

 

Jack

 

 

Jack did I understand your answer to my question correctly about drilling grab iron holes,  that you basically hold the part by hand?

 

Ned Carey


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Dick Foley
 

Gentlemen,
 
 Is there a practical way to remove the roof on these cars?
 
Dick Foley


Re: Sensitive Chuck for Drilling

Jim Betz
 

Hi,

A friend of mine built a sort of roll-your-own drill for this
purpose. It is little more than a 1.5 inch diameter 12vdc
motor that has a chuck on it that will hold drills down
to a #80. He powers it off of an old DC power pack and
uses that to control the speed - and holds it in his hand.

The advantage to this is that it is hand held and so the
work goes a -lot- quicker than using any kind of drill
press. Even with a precision table you still spend a lot
of time moving from one hole to the next ... and also
figuring out how to hold the model on the table.

He does the same thing I do which is to never use
the recommended drill size. If a #80 is the 'correct'
size use a #78 or even a #76. You will not notice that
the holes are a bit too large ... and the ease of getting
the wires into them is not just meaningful it is great.
And you break a lot less drill bits. *G*

If you use a very fine point such as those found on
the old compasses or better yet "dividers" (a tool I
would not know how to work on models without)
you can 'pre-punch' the holes. This helps a lot to
position/guide the drill when making the actual
holes. The dividers I have are at least 50 years old
and were an essential tool for anyone doing any
sort of "navigation" using nautical charts.

I have seen some 'micro chucks' on eBay but haven't
bought one yet. The key 'accuracy' issue with small
drills is that the chuck has to be designed to hold them.
I have tried holding a pin vise in a drill press and it
is hard to get it lined up so that the tip and drill are
turning true. And there are the issues related to how
much slower it is to do the actual holes than any
kind of hand held method. If I'm only doing the
holes in a single model I almost always end up just
hand holding the pin vise ... *G*.

Although holes that are perfectly perpendicular to
the surface of the model are better/preferred ... I
always seem to be able to hold a pin vise close
enough to perpendicular that it isn't any problem.

- Jim Betz


Joyful modeling?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Jared wrote:
 
"Joyful modeling?  Is there such a thing?  I never built a model in my life where I felt joyful.  For me any joyfulness comes when I am finished and I say to myself, "A ha, done at last."  For me the building is just the means to a finished product.
 
Absolutely there is! I thoroughly enjoy the research. I thoroughly enjoy the build process (altho I will say decaling is my least favorite part of the job). Most of all, I thoroughly enjoy running the finished car! I just have trouble limiting myself to an appropriate number of simultaneous in-process models crowding up my workbench, and that's the part I struggle with sometimes.
 
  -  Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: nvrr49@...
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Sunshine resale values..Now tools

I enjoy the build, and really am not that excited about finishing projects, which is why I have 40 plus going at any one time.  When I get close to finishing anything, I start an new project or two.  Just a personality flaw.

Kent Hurley in KC
nvrr49.blogspot.com

"Joyful modeling?  Is there such a thing?  I never built a model in my life where I felt joyful.  For me any joyfulness comes when I am finished and I say to myself, "A ha, done at last."  For me the building is just the means to a finished product.


Jared Harper
Athens, GA"


Re: My Drill: My Favorite Tool

 

The idea for that drill was John Romberger's. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Mar 7, 2014, at 8:28 AM, <fgexbill@...> wrote:

 

The talk of building models and drilling provoked me to offer up info about the drill I use. I think I have mentioned this before but in case I have not, I have used a small drill cobbled up by Brian Ehni back when he owned a hobby shop about two decades ago. A photo of can be seen here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/njb94c1vwy7z1ov/Pattern%20making%20for%20resin%20kits.pdf


It is slide #22. It is powered by a small power pack attached by alligater clips and a gripped around the"Holland" can motor. The chuck is a Dremel. This particular chuck will only hold a #79, but that is fine with me. It is very light and makes drilling a pleasure. I would be lost without it.

Bill Welch


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

devansprr
 

Sorry - &#$!&%#!  Neo - that was supposed to be for Ben.
Dave Evans

---In STMFC@..., <devans1@...> wrote :Ben,
Depending on your era  ;-) ....



My Drill: My Favorite Tool

Bill Welch
 

The talk of building models and drilling provoked me to offer up info about the drill I use. I think I have mentioned this before but in case I have not, I have used a small drill cobbled up by Brian Ehni back when he owned a hobby shop about two decades ago. A photo of can be seen here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/njb94c1vwy7z1ov/Pattern%20making%20for%20resin%20kits.pdf

It is slide #22. It is powered by a small power pack attached by alligater clips and a gripped around the"Holland" can motor. The chuck is a Dremel. This particular chuck will only hold a #79, but that is fine with me. It is very light and makes drilling a pleasure. I would be lost without it.

Bill Welch


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

devansprr
 

Ben,
Depending on your era  ;-) If I ever have my WWII era layout built (likely in about 10 years), I am willing to incur the wrath of the roof police if they spot the incorrect roof.

I doubt BLI will ever offer them with the original roof, so noting the need for these cars, I took the plunge.

Dave Evans



---In STMFC@..., <b.hom@...> wrote :

Greg Bartek wrote:
"Had I only done my research a bit more thorough. I  was attempting to model the N&B version of this car and bought a 4 pack of the BLI undec version, only to find out about the roof issue AFTER I purchased them. Plus the doors need to be changed."

...or you could use them as NYC cars, seeing that the USRA-design steel boxcars are easily the most under-represented cars on ANY layout.


Ben Hom 


Re: Sunshine resale values..Now tools

 

I enjoyed my 30 years of business; otherwise I wouldn’t have spent so much time and effort on it.  But the real fun for me was the R&D.  I always had 3 or 4 cars in different stages.  Once I finished a model I was thoroughly sick of it and itching to get back to the next.  It was really onerous to build a dozen or more models of the same car to show different lettering schemes. – Al Westerfield
 

Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Sunshine resale values..Now tools
 
 

Joyful modeling?  Is there such a thing?  I never built a model in my life where I felt joyful.  For me any joyfulness comes when I am finished and I say to myself, "A ha, done at last."  For me the building is just the means to a finished product.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA



---In STMFC@..., wrote :

Denny Wrote: Pin vise drilling for handrails is more akin to trudging through deep sand than it is to joyful modeling.
 
 
 
 


Re: Sunshine resale values..Now tools

nvrr49@...
 

I enjoy the build, and really am not that excited about finishing projects, which is why I have 40 plus going at any one time.  When I get close to finishing anything, I start an new project or two.  Just a personality flaw.

Kent Hurley in KC
nvrr49.blogspot.com

"Joyful modeling?  Is there such a thing?  I never built a model in my life where I felt joyful.  For me any joyfulness comes when I am finished and I say to myself, "A ha, done at last."  For me the building is just the means to a finished product.


Jared Harper
Athens, GA"


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Benjamin Hom
 

Greg Bartek wrote:
"Had I only done my research a bit more thorough. I  was attempting to model the N&B version of this car and bought a 4 pack of the BLI undec version, only to find out about the roof issue AFTER I purchased them. Plus the doors need to be changed."

...or you could use them as NYC cars, seeing that the USRA-design steel boxcars are easily the most under-represented cars on ANY layout.


Ben Hom


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Tim O'Connor
 


Yes, Ian, thanks. UPCX is what I meant. If I'd used the correct
reporting mark I would have found the earlier posts from Eric Neubauer
and Ed Kaminski circa 1998 on the old FC list...

Tim O'


Thanks Bill, and Richard. I have a note saying these are "ex-UCPX" but I

cannot find any other record or post or photo of that reporting mark! Weird.
It must stand for Universal Cement, but God only knows where I heard this
UCPX information�
Checking my reporting mark list, I do find an entry for UPCX back in the 1920s and 1930s (Universal Portland Cement Co., later part of Universal Atlas Cement Co.).  Transposition error?

Ian Cranstone


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Greg Bartek
 

Guys,
Had I only done my research a bit more thorough. I  was attempting to model the N&B version of this car and bought a 4 pack of the BLI undec version, only to find out about the roof issue AFTER I purchased them. Plus the doors need to be changed.

Live & learn
Greg Bartek


Re: Resin kit construction...

Aley, Jeff A
 

Peter,

 

               It’s CDO.  That way, the letters are in alphabetical order, as they SHOULD be.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Peter Burr
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:01 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Resin kit construction...

 

 

Nice summary, Jack...btw, is it "Ocd", "OcD", "ocD", or "OCD"?

Peter Burr


Re: Resin kit construction...

Peter Burr <pburr47@...>
 

Nice summary, Jack...btw, is it "Ocd", "OcD", "ocD", or "OCD"?

Peter Burr


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Ian Cranstone
 

On 2014-03-06, at 11:48 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

 

Thanks Bill, and Richard. I have a note saying these are "ex-UCPX" but I
cannot find any other record or post or photo of that reporting mark! Weird.
It must stand for Universal Cement, but God only knows where I heard this
UCPX information…

Checking my reporting mark list, I do find an entry for UPCX back in the 1920s and 1930s (Universal Portland Cement Co., later part of Universal Atlas Cement Co.).  Transposition error?

FWIW, UCPX is reported as belonging to Union Carbide Corp, Chemicals and Plastics — unfortunately for this list, over the horizon in the 1960s.

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