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Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Personally I wish BLI had done even later rebuilds with extended heights
and diagonal panel roofs. But I'll go with the Westerfield idea, and use a
kit that is designed from the ground up to be accurate.

Tim O'

I seem to be tuning in to this conversation late, so sorry if I am missing
what has passed already.

But can anyone suggest the most obvious way to backdate the roof on these
models (for those of us who bought and only later learned the model is too
late for our model period . . . )?

Rob Kirkham


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Robert kirkham
 

I seem to be tuning in to this conversation late, so sorry if I am missing what has passed already.

But can anyone suggest the most obvious way to backdate the roof on these models (for those of us who bought and only later learned the model is too late for our model period . . . )?

Rob Kirkham

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 9:33 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RE: BLI USRA steel box cars

Ben

I totally agree with that, although these particular cars started to
disappear from the NYC roster very quickly in my era of interest which
starts in the late 1950's. By the mid-60's the NYC system was selling
off large numbers of more modern 40ft box cars. I am very interested
in modeling cars sold on the 2nd hand market in my time period.

Tim

...or you could use them as NYC cars, seeing that the USRA-design steel boxcars
are easily the most under-represented cars on ANY layout.
Ben Hom



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Re: Sunshine resale values..Now tools

Ian Cranstone
 

On 2014-03-08, at 12:42 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
 

I understand what you mean, Jared. I have been known on occasion to
utter a long string of invective at a particularly troublesome bit of
plastic or jar of paint or !@(*#!@& tool that is not fulfilling its
mission in supplying me with endless pleasure and joy.

I don't know Tim, that just sounds like a different sort of endless pleasure and joy… well, endless anyways!



Re: Sunshine resale values..Now tools

Tim O'Connor
 

I understand what you mean, Jared. I have been known on occasion to
utter a long string of invective at a particularly troublesome bit of
plastic or jar of paint or !@(*#!@& tool that is not fulfilling its
mission in supplying me with endless pleasure and joy.

Tim O'Connor

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Joyful modeling? Is there such a thing? I never built a model in my life
where I felt joyful.... [snip]
Jared Harper


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Ben

I totally agree with that, although these particular cars started to
disappear from the NYC roster very quickly in my era of interest which
starts in the late 1950's. By the mid-60's the NYC system was selling
off large numbers of more modern 40ft box cars. I am very interested
in modeling cars sold on the 2nd hand market in my time period.

Tim

...or you could use them as NYC cars, seeing that the USRA-design steel boxcars
are easily the most under-represented cars on ANY layout.
Ben Hom


Re: Sunshine resale values..

Mikebrock
 

Jeff Aley notes:

"P.S. I tried to add the F&C NYC wrecker service car to the train, but Denny [quite correctly!] admonished me that it would not be prototypical."

Thank God.

Mike Brock


Updated hopper page

Bill Lane
 

I have updated my open hopper page. http://www.lanestrains.com/Open_Hoppers.htm Some cars have been recently competed and some were done over 10 years ago, but were never added to the page. Please give it a look.

 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

 

See my layout progress at:

http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

 


Re: CRI&P 53' war gons

Dan Sweeney Jr
 

Ross and list, the TOFC-version resin kit was a limited run by an outfit in Delaware called TMB Custom Models.  I believe it was commissioned by Lee Bertholf; not sure.  They produced both the double cut-out version and the much rarer single cut-out.  An expensive kit, and very difficult to add weight to, but it saved HOURS of shaving plastic off of the Tichy kit (ask me how I know).
Dan Sweeney, Jr., Alexandria, VA


Re: Sunshine resale values..

Aley, Jeff A
 

What Denny has not mentioned is the sight of that Fleishmann ICE-1 operating on his layout at near-prototypical speeds (174 MPH), trailed by that MDC GN express box, Northeastern express reefer, Laconia and Walthers passenger cars, and the LaBelle 80’ obs carrying the markers.  Needless to say, the train stirred up strong emotions when I saw it, as it would in any Prototype Modeler!

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

P.S. I tried to add the F&C NYC wrecker service car to the train, but Denny [quite correctly!] admonished me that it would not be prototypical.

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Anspach Denny
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 10:13 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Sunshine resale values..

 

 

This is a great discussion. It showcases once again the incredible diversity of interests and skills that live under this model railroading umbrella.  For me, the joys can and do run the gamut  from the anal satisfaction of taking a taking a Sunshine Fleischmann vinegar through to its maximal prototype potential, to seeing what I can do as a wannabe  "craftsman" in the assembling and completion of a c. 1938 Varney MDT reefer. Each provided for me multiple levels of high modeling satisfaction.

 

Since my recent return to my modeling workbench after a 18 month hiatus, I have busied myself quite enjoyably just picking up and actually finishing to completion old and  ancient bench-clearing modeling disasters and projects, some many decades old. This has included (so far), a wood Northeastern express reefer, a Laconia 80' passenger car, a Walthers metal/wood passenger car kit bash, a LaBelle 80' observation car, an MDC 50' GN express box kit bash,  an ESU DCC sound install in a German Fleishmann ICE-1 locomotive, a F&C NYC wrecker service car, and Kadee coupler installs in a host of some really finely modeled and finished bequeathed freight car models that when last used in c. 1961 still had dummy couplers. 

 

I love the trajectory that the skills and experience that I have had to pull forth and apply in this recent host of widely varied modeling activities; - not all of them meeting the usual expectations of Prototype modeling.  Nevertheless, when I put down the tools at the end of a modeling session, I become mesmerized, sometimes for an hour, by the beautiful, if not arresting sight of the strings of weathered closely coupled,  and detailed prototype freight cars that are currently resting along a broad super elevated curves on the edge of my layout, and infesting the freight yard just beyond.  H-mmmm. I WILL  get back to prototype modeling……….tomorrow!

 

Denny

 

Denny S. Anspach MD

Sacramento

 

 

 

 


Re: Wanting F&C F22 flat car kit

npin53
 

Found a kit, thanks.

Aaron Gjermundson


Re: tank car for sale

CJ Riley
 


The tank car is sold.
Thanks for saving me from Feebay.
 
CJ Riley
Bainbridge Island WA


From: "cjriley42@..."
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: [STMFC] tank car for sale

 
I have an overland LP tank car (1936) for sale:
 $150 priority mail included : check or paypal.
Please respond off list: cjriley42@...



Wanting F&C F22 flat car kit

npin53
 

Any of you fine gentleman have a spare F&C, F22 flat car kit that you would sell?

I know they are on eBay, but I only need one.

Aaron Gjermundson


Re: Joyful modeling?

frograbbit602
 

I too enjoy the research, the build , usually a week, and most of all running the finished car.   I hope I do not get into trouble by saying I run it on my railroad on the Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If you can break away from your modeling to look, you can at www.minn-rail.org , Click on Layouts and then the Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.
Lester Breuer
Minneapolis, MN



tank car for sale

CJ Riley
 

I have an overland LP tank car (1936) for sale:
 $150 priority mail included : check or paypal.
Please respond off list: cjriley42@...


Re: Speedwitch wabash instructions kit #109.3

Jack Burgess
 

Ned...

 

I have both...I'll get you copies.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Ned Carey
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 7:27 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Speedwitch wabash instructions kit #109.3

 




I have a Speedwitch Wabash SS car kit 109.3 with no instructions sheet or prototype info. Does someone have one they could scan for me? I do have pictures in Some speedwitch media books but I don't even know exact class or number series so I'm afraid I will get some details wrong.

 

Alternatively does anyone have a copy of Ted's Essential freight cars from RMC Sept 2007 on Wabash cars?

 

Thanks you,

 

Ned Carey





Re: Sensitive Chuck for Drilling

Jack Burgess
 

Ned...

 

Yes, the resin parts (ends, sides) just lay flat on the drill press table and I move them into place and then hold them from  moving with my hand. I have an X-Y table for my drill press but it is not needed for just drilling holes for grab irons.

 

Jack

 

 

Jack did I understand your answer to my question correctly about drilling grab iron holes,  that you basically hold the part by hand?

 

Ned Carey


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Dick Foley
 

Gentlemen,
 
 Is there a practical way to remove the roof on these cars?
 
Dick Foley


Re: Sensitive Chuck for Drilling

Jim Betz
 

Hi,

A friend of mine built a sort of roll-your-own drill for this
purpose. It is little more than a 1.5 inch diameter 12vdc
motor that has a chuck on it that will hold drills down
to a #80. He powers it off of an old DC power pack and
uses that to control the speed - and holds it in his hand.

The advantage to this is that it is hand held and so the
work goes a -lot- quicker than using any kind of drill
press. Even with a precision table you still spend a lot
of time moving from one hole to the next ... and also
figuring out how to hold the model on the table.

He does the same thing I do which is to never use
the recommended drill size. If a #80 is the 'correct'
size use a #78 or even a #76. You will not notice that
the holes are a bit too large ... and the ease of getting
the wires into them is not just meaningful it is great.
And you break a lot less drill bits. *G*

If you use a very fine point such as those found on
the old compasses or better yet "dividers" (a tool I
would not know how to work on models without)
you can 'pre-punch' the holes. This helps a lot to
position/guide the drill when making the actual
holes. The dividers I have are at least 50 years old
and were an essential tool for anyone doing any
sort of "navigation" using nautical charts.

I have seen some 'micro chucks' on eBay but haven't
bought one yet. The key 'accuracy' issue with small
drills is that the chuck has to be designed to hold them.
I have tried holding a pin vise in a drill press and it
is hard to get it lined up so that the tip and drill are
turning true. And there are the issues related to how
much slower it is to do the actual holes than any
kind of hand held method. If I'm only doing the
holes in a single model I almost always end up just
hand holding the pin vise ... *G*.

Although holes that are perfectly perpendicular to
the surface of the model are better/preferred ... I
always seem to be able to hold a pin vise close
enough to perpendicular that it isn't any problem.

- Jim Betz


Joyful modeling?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Jared wrote:
 
"Joyful modeling?  Is there such a thing?  I never built a model in my life where I felt joyful.  For me any joyfulness comes when I am finished and I say to myself, "A ha, done at last."  For me the building is just the means to a finished product.
 
Absolutely there is! I thoroughly enjoy the research. I thoroughly enjoy the build process (altho I will say decaling is my least favorite part of the job). Most of all, I thoroughly enjoy running the finished car! I just have trouble limiting myself to an appropriate number of simultaneous in-process models crowding up my workbench, and that's the part I struggle with sometimes.
 
  -  Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: nvrr49@...
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Sunshine resale values..Now tools

I enjoy the build, and really am not that excited about finishing projects, which is why I have 40 plus going at any one time.  When I get close to finishing anything, I start an new project or two.  Just a personality flaw.

Kent Hurley in KC
nvrr49.blogspot.com

"Joyful modeling?  Is there such a thing?  I never built a model in my life where I felt joyful.  For me any joyfulness comes when I am finished and I say to myself, "A ha, done at last."  For me the building is just the means to a finished product.


Jared Harper
Athens, GA"


Re: My Drill: My Favorite Tool

 

The idea for that drill was John Romberger's. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Mar 7, 2014, at 8:28 AM, <fgexbill@...> wrote:

 

The talk of building models and drilling provoked me to offer up info about the drill I use. I think I have mentioned this before but in case I have not, I have used a small drill cobbled up by Brian Ehni back when he owned a hobby shop about two decades ago. A photo of can be seen here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/njb94c1vwy7z1ov/Pattern%20making%20for%20resin%20kits.pdf


It is slide #22. It is powered by a small power pack attached by alligater clips and a gripped around the"Holland" can motor. The chuck is a Dremel. This particular chuck will only hold a #79, but that is fine with me. It is very light and makes drilling a pleasure. I would be lost without it.

Bill Welch

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