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Re: Virginian 62016

Benjamin Hom
 

"How close was Virginian 62016 to a PRR car or was it a 2nd hand purchase from the PRR?"

25 cars built new for the Virginian to the same design as the PRR 14 ft 6 in door opening cars.  NOT A SECONDHAND PURCHASE.


Ben Hom


Re: CRI&P 53' war gons

Dan Sweeney Jr
 

In addition to the Color Guide book, Steve Hile also co-authored (this time with Martin Lofton) an article in the September 1990 Model Railroading.  Here is a link: http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/109/7920/september-1990-page-26
To prove that we're not alone in our desperation, issue number 1 of the Rock Island Modeler (2007) contained an article by John Jordison in which he performed the same plastic scraping.  I believe that issue is still available from Andover Junction.
And did not Al Kamm, Jr. in MR in the 1950's describe how to bash the Ulrich pot metal kit?  Seems like that would make scraping plastic look like child's play by comparison.
The single-cut version is a minor mystery to me in terms of quantity, but no source claims more than twelve, and tally discrepancies may be explained by the two lowest-numbered cars (97000-97001) having higher-capacity trucks.  Anybody know for sure?  Steve?
Dan Sweeney, Jr.
Alexandria, VA


Virginian 62016

Bill Lane
 

How close was Virginian 62016 to a PRR car or was it a 2nd hand purchase from the PRR?

 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

 

See my layout progress at:

http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

 


WWII Boxcar Graffiti and a Virginian Automobile Car

John Barry
 

With some stimulus from discussions here, I discovered some 1943 graphic art on a steel canvas.  Photos on my blog at http://northbaylines.blogspot.com/

I need to find a printer for white decals that won't cost an arm and both legs.
 
John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Greg Bartek
 

Rob,

It would require major surgery to replace the roof on the BLI cars, something that I have neither the skill nor the desire to do as I would probably destroy the car in the process.

 

While I agree that it would be best to have a car totally correct from the outset, IMHO it is unfair to compare the build quality of the BLI car to that of the Westerfield car (precision injection versus resin molds). I have them side by side and they are like night & day. Yes, the BLI car has spoiled me.

 

Unfortunately the roof is one of if not the most noticeable feature. I will just have to live with the fact that my N&B rostered boxcars will not be totally correct.

 

Greg Bartek


Re: CRI&P 53' war gons

twinstarcars
 

I can also be reached at 
roscodando@...
roscopdando@...

Or you can cal me Ray..............

Thanks,
Ross


Re: CRI&P 53' war gons

twinstarcars
 

Dan, i dont remember the single cut out version and cant seem to find a picture either because of my ER meds or there isnt one in Steve's book. Please don't tell me you scraped with a razor blade. I too started with a few passes that way and figured out the five cars I wanted were never going to happen. The router fixture I made works awesome! It makes quick work of the boards and then a #11 blade to clean up the edges of the steel stamping.
Ross


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

william darnaby
 

I have the opposite problem with around 10 of the Westerfield NYC version
running around on my 1955 period layout. OTOH, I have had two officers of
the Prototype Police (with badges!) over for sessions and I have not been
citied.

Bill Darnaby

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Robert
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 12:16 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RE: BLI USRA steel box cars

I seem to be tuning in to this conversation late, so sorry if I am missing
what has passed already.

But can anyone suggest the most obvious way to backdate the roof on these
models (for those of us who bought and only later learned the model is too
late for our model period . . . )?

Rob Kirkham






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Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

riverman_vt@...
 

   Or, just as important, can someone provide dates for when the roofs began to be replaced and when that work came to an end? As near as I can tell the cars are quite appropriate for those fo us modeling the late 1940's so I like tham as is with the pre-1955 lettering. Additionally, now that several of us have convinced BLI

to package the four car lots as four individually boxed cars using shrink wrap to make the four car pack instead of a miserable four car box I'm sure they will sell even better. If someone can provide good information on the

original roofs I'm willing to tackle that with them as well. The next run, which is expected later later this

year, will also have four different car number for those of us who want more Boston & Albany cars and well

as the Peoria & Eastern cars. Why these two subsidiaries were only offered with one car number in run after run is beyond me. BLI has, however, been provided with information for one other car that is very close to

the NYC car and, I'm told, is being considered. If they fly with this one another is already in the pipe line.

Personally I'm just pleased to find them looking at prototypes other than the usual Pennsy crap that they seem so fascinated with for motive power. Sorrry Bruce. But their New Haven I-5 4-6-4 is a great hybrid modal and is being followed by a hybrid New Haven I-4 4-6-2 so I won't complain too loudly.

Cordially, Don Valentine


 


Joyful modeling?

Bill Lane
 

Claus,

 

Perhaps you should switch to modeling in a larger scale. There IS “joy” DURING the building! (:->) It is a shame if you really don’t enjoy the whole process.

 

Of course we all (HOPEFULLY!) have felt the buzz and satisfaction of our first look when we decide the latest project is DONE! For me it is frequently with a trip down to my layout for some photos. That never EVER gets old. The more involved the project the bigger the buzz.

 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

 

See my layout progress at:

http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

 


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Personally I wish BLI had done even later rebuilds with extended heights
and diagonal panel roofs. But I'll go with the Westerfield idea, and use a
kit that is designed from the ground up to be accurate.

Tim O'

I seem to be tuning in to this conversation late, so sorry if I am missing
what has passed already.

But can anyone suggest the most obvious way to backdate the roof on these
models (for those of us who bought and only later learned the model is too
late for our model period . . . )?

Rob Kirkham


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Robert kirkham
 

I seem to be tuning in to this conversation late, so sorry if I am missing what has passed already.

But can anyone suggest the most obvious way to backdate the roof on these models (for those of us who bought and only later learned the model is too late for our model period . . . )?

Rob Kirkham

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 9:33 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RE: BLI USRA steel box cars

Ben

I totally agree with that, although these particular cars started to
disappear from the NYC roster very quickly in my era of interest which
starts in the late 1950's. By the mid-60's the NYC system was selling
off large numbers of more modern 40ft box cars. I am very interested
in modeling cars sold on the 2nd hand market in my time period.

Tim

...or you could use them as NYC cars, seeing that the USRA-design steel boxcars
are easily the most under-represented cars on ANY layout.
Ben Hom



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Re: Sunshine resale values..Now tools

Ian Cranstone
 

On 2014-03-08, at 12:42 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
 

I understand what you mean, Jared. I have been known on occasion to
utter a long string of invective at a particularly troublesome bit of
plastic or jar of paint or !@(*#!@& tool that is not fulfilling its
mission in supplying me with endless pleasure and joy.

I don't know Tim, that just sounds like a different sort of endless pleasure and joy… well, endless anyways!



Re: Sunshine resale values..Now tools

Tim O'Connor
 

I understand what you mean, Jared. I have been known on occasion to
utter a long string of invective at a particularly troublesome bit of
plastic or jar of paint or !@(*#!@& tool that is not fulfilling its
mission in supplying me with endless pleasure and joy.

Tim O'Connor

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Joyful modeling? Is there such a thing? I never built a model in my life
where I felt joyful.... [snip]
Jared Harper


Re: BLI USRA steel box cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Ben

I totally agree with that, although these particular cars started to
disappear from the NYC roster very quickly in my era of interest which
starts in the late 1950's. By the mid-60's the NYC system was selling
off large numbers of more modern 40ft box cars. I am very interested
in modeling cars sold on the 2nd hand market in my time period.

Tim

...or you could use them as NYC cars, seeing that the USRA-design steel boxcars
are easily the most under-represented cars on ANY layout.
Ben Hom


Re: Sunshine resale values..

Mikebrock
 

Jeff Aley notes:

"P.S. I tried to add the F&C NYC wrecker service car to the train, but Denny [quite correctly!] admonished me that it would not be prototypical."

Thank God.

Mike Brock


Updated hopper page

Bill Lane
 

I have updated my open hopper page. http://www.lanestrains.com/Open_Hoppers.htm Some cars have been recently competed and some were done over 10 years ago, but were never added to the page. Please give it a look.

 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

 

See my layout progress at:

http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

 


Re: CRI&P 53' war gons

Dan Sweeney Jr
 

Ross and list, the TOFC-version resin kit was a limited run by an outfit in Delaware called TMB Custom Models.  I believe it was commissioned by Lee Bertholf; not sure.  They produced both the double cut-out version and the much rarer single cut-out.  An expensive kit, and very difficult to add weight to, but it saved HOURS of shaving plastic off of the Tichy kit (ask me how I know).
Dan Sweeney, Jr., Alexandria, VA


Re: Sunshine resale values..

Aley, Jeff A
 

What Denny has not mentioned is the sight of that Fleishmann ICE-1 operating on his layout at near-prototypical speeds (174 MPH), trailed by that MDC GN express box, Northeastern express reefer, Laconia and Walthers passenger cars, and the LaBelle 80’ obs carrying the markers.  Needless to say, the train stirred up strong emotions when I saw it, as it would in any Prototype Modeler!

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

P.S. I tried to add the F&C NYC wrecker service car to the train, but Denny [quite correctly!] admonished me that it would not be prototypical.

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Anspach Denny
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 10:13 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Sunshine resale values..

 

 

This is a great discussion. It showcases once again the incredible diversity of interests and skills that live under this model railroading umbrella.  For me, the joys can and do run the gamut  from the anal satisfaction of taking a taking a Sunshine Fleischmann vinegar through to its maximal prototype potential, to seeing what I can do as a wannabe  "craftsman" in the assembling and completion of a c. 1938 Varney MDT reefer. Each provided for me multiple levels of high modeling satisfaction.

 

Since my recent return to my modeling workbench after a 18 month hiatus, I have busied myself quite enjoyably just picking up and actually finishing to completion old and  ancient bench-clearing modeling disasters and projects, some many decades old. This has included (so far), a wood Northeastern express reefer, a Laconia 80' passenger car, a Walthers metal/wood passenger car kit bash, a LaBelle 80' observation car, an MDC 50' GN express box kit bash,  an ESU DCC sound install in a German Fleishmann ICE-1 locomotive, a F&C NYC wrecker service car, and Kadee coupler installs in a host of some really finely modeled and finished bequeathed freight car models that when last used in c. 1961 still had dummy couplers. 

 

I love the trajectory that the skills and experience that I have had to pull forth and apply in this recent host of widely varied modeling activities; - not all of them meeting the usual expectations of Prototype modeling.  Nevertheless, when I put down the tools at the end of a modeling session, I become mesmerized, sometimes for an hour, by the beautiful, if not arresting sight of the strings of weathered closely coupled,  and detailed prototype freight cars that are currently resting along a broad super elevated curves on the edge of my layout, and infesting the freight yard just beyond.  H-mmmm. I WILL  get back to prototype modeling……….tomorrow!

 

Denny

 

Denny S. Anspach MD

Sacramento

 

 

 

 


Re: Wanting F&C F22 flat car kit

npin53
 

Found a kit, thanks.

Aaron Gjermundson

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