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Re: [EXTERNAL] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

David
 

There was a large disbursement of privately-owned hoppers and gondolas circa 1922, prompted by one of those ICC rulings. A few of the larger fleets stayed private (Berwind, Westmoreland, Koppers), but most of the smaller ones were sold off, either to the connecting railroad or on the open market.

David Thompson


Re: [EXTERNAL] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

David
 

That was the car that PRR backdated for display at the 1939 World's Fair. It eventually found its way to the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania.

David Thompson


Re: J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars

Tony Thompson
 

Al Westerfield wrote:

 
As described in my clinic Billboard Reefers and Other Disasters: How Government Regulations Affected Car Building, ICC regulations forced private coal companies to divest themselves of their cars, not once, but twice.  Only Berwind was strong enough to maintain their fleet.  They did it better than Pennsy which is why those GLA’s, when sold to Pennsy, were the last on the roster.  As far as I am able to determine, the cars owned by car mine companies were identical to GL’s and except for Berwind were probably maintained by the railroad.  I’m not sure but I think the clinic was reprinted in book form.  Tony Thompson was responsible; maybe he remembers.  The history sheets for GL and GLC/GLCA kits enumerate all the cars I could account for. – Al Westerfield    

       Yes, that clinic was indeed printed in one of the NMRA History Symposium books. In the 1990s, I organized a series, called Symposium on Railroad History, at each NMRA National Convention, starting at Pittsburgh in 1990, and each symposium had the talks published in 5 x 9-inch paperback books by the NMRA Library. (At most conventions after Pittsburgh, I encountered convention committees which ranged from totally uninterested to overtly hostile to such an intrusion into THEIR clinic program, and I eventually gave up on the series.) Al's paper was in the Fifth Symposium at Atlanta in 1995, and is printed in Volume 4 of the books. These volumes used to be available direct from the NMRA Library.
       Incidentally, though Al's historical facts in that paper are correct, I disagree with his interpretation of them, as do most historians. However, as far as I am aware, we remain friends .

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Lehigh Valley 41000 Series Hopper

Layout Tour
 

Lou,

Photos in an article in the Oct 1938 Railway Mechanical Engineer "Lehigh Valley Cuts Down 70-ton Hoppers to 50 Tons" as well as other photos show the airline running on the outside. I think 42521 was an anomoly, probably when rebuilt.

Chuck Davis
Norfolk VA


Re: [EXTERNAL] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

 

As described in my clinic Billboard Reefers and Other Disasters: How Government Regulations Affected Car Building, ICC regulations forced private coal companies to divest themselves of their cars, not once, but twice.  Only Berwind was strong enough to maintain their fleet.  They did it better than Pennsy which is why those GLA’s, when sold to Pennsy, were the last on the roster.  As far as I am able to determine, the cars owned by car mine companies were identical to GL’s and except for Berwind were probably maintained by the railroad.  I’m not sure but I think the clinic was reprinted in book form.  Tony Thompson was responsible; maybe he remembers.  The history sheets for GL and GLC/GLCA kits enumerate all the cars I could account for. – Al Westerfield    
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)
 
 

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Eric;

Here is an interesting shot:

http://cdm16038.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15017coll8/id/2682/rec/985

....and the fact that they deliberately call it a "relic"?

Check out those interior brackets, and dual brake wheels...

Elden Gatwood


-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:59 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

This was my first thought since they appear to be related to PRR, however I was un able to find any likely number series. 1,000 cars would be hard to hide.

Eric N.




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Caveats: NONE

Eric;

Have you looked into whether or not they were sold to the PRR? Many coal companies that bought PRR class clones did this when economic downturns necessitated sale of assets. PRR rostered many ex-coal company hoppers.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars

Does anyone know where their fleet of 1000+ GL design cars mostly built by PSC in 1902 went? They don't appear to have gone to the coal company successors.

Thanks,
Eric

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FS Athearn ATSF Mill Gon GA-47

Brian Carlson
 

I have more rolling stock than required. I have an Athearn 65 ft Mill gon in ATSF GA-47 Built 1937 reweigh SB 6-43. I think this is from the first release a few years ago. Asking $16.00 plus USPS Priority Mail. Checks, Money Order, or PayPal accepted.   If interested contact me OFF-LIST lest we both end up in moderate jail. Prrk41361@...

 

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga, NY

 


Re: [EXTERNAL] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

SUVCWORR@...
 

From a 1904 topo map,  Ellsworth was adjacent to Bentleyville,  It was on the PRR Monongahela & Washington Branch
 
Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Neubauer
To: STMFC
Sent: Wed, Mar 12, 2014 3:02 pm
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)



The coal mines were in the Pittsburgh area and went to Lackawanna Steel in 1907.
 
Eric
 
 
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

I did not educate myself sufficiently on this topic, since the PRR hopper effort was (perhaps) being pursued by other individuals within the PRRT&HS; however, there was some discussion at one time, some of it with Al Westerfield, over the number of hoppers in certain private fleets declining quickly, and the number of cars appearing in the ORERs under PRR ownership growing by roughly that number. If one were to take it on (ORER analysis), I would guess you could hazard some pretty good guesses as to what was happening, and when. I believe there were significant numbers (like thousands) of H21A that went that way, too. The Berwind-White GLA were some of the last cars leased/sold to the PRR, and surprisingly for a late date, the PRR found room on the roster for those small twins.

BTW, where did Ellsworth run these cars/interchange them onto the PRR?

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:59 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

This was my first thought since they appear to be related to PRR, however I was un able to find any likely number series. 1,000 cars would be hard to hide.

Eric N.




Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

Have you looked into whether or not they were sold to the PRR? Many coal companies that bought PRR class clones did this when economic downturns necessitated sale of assets. PRR rostered many ex-coal company hoppers.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars

Does anyone know where their fleet of 1000+ GL design cars mostly built by PSC in 1902 went? They don't appear to have gone to the coal company successors.

Thanks,
Eric

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Re: PRR GL car

Benjamin Hom
 

Elden Gatwood wrote:
"Here is an interesting shot:

http://cdm16038.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15017coll8/id/2682/rec/985

....and the fact that they deliberately call it a "relic"?

Check out those interior brackets, and dual brake wheels..."

Eric Neubauer replied:
"If it was taken in 1939, the car has apparently been back dated as a historical item. Before 1911, two hand brakes weren't uncommon. Of course, the second hand brake was made obsolete by the 1911 Safety Appliance Act. I've always figured the brackets were there to allow a man to pass from one end to the other when the car was empty. I could
see brackets like that being used a lot on those many short coal delivery sidings along the Reading's elevated line into Reading Terminal. Note that the car lacks a side plate and that the top of the side sheets were bent over to form a flange, and early PSC trait. If the number (pre 1905 renumbering) is correct, the car is from the very first PRR order for GLs."

The Pennsy maintained a historical rolling stock collection which surprisingly survived the Penn Central bankruptcy, and was donated by PC to the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania.  PRR 33164 is on display inside the museum.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rspicture.aspx?id=251145

Ben Hom


Re: [EXTERNAL] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 

The coal mines were in the Pittsburgh area and went to Lackawanna Steel in 1907.
 
Eric
 

 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

I did not educate myself sufficiently on this topic, since the PRR hopper effort was (perhaps) being pursued by other individuals within the PRRT&HS; however, there was some discussion at one time, some of it with Al Westerfield, over the number of hoppers in certain private fleets declining quickly, and the number of cars appearing in the ORERs under PRR ownership growing by roughly that number. If one were to take it on (ORER analysis), I would guess you could hazard some pretty good guesses as to what was happening, and when. I believe there were significant numbers (like thousands) of H21A that went that way, too. The Berwind-White GLA were some of the last cars leased/sold to the PRR, and surprisingly for a late date, the PRR found room on the roster for those small twins.

BTW, where did Ellsworth run these cars/interchange them onto the PRR?

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:59 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

This was my first thought since they appear to be related to PRR, however I was un able to find any likely number series. 1,000 cars would be hard to hide.

Eric N.




Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

Have you looked into whether or not they were sold to the PRR? Many coal companies that bought PRR class clones did this when economic downturns necessitated sale of assets. PRR rostered many ex-coal company hoppers.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars

Does anyone know where their fleet of 1000+ GL design cars mostly built by PSC in 1902 went? They don't appear to have gone to the coal company successors.

Thanks,
Eric

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE



Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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PRR GL car

Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 

If it was taken in 1939, the car has apparently been back dated as a historical item. Before 1911, two hand brakes weren't uncommon. Of course, the second hand brake was made obsolete by the 1911 Safety Appliance Act. I've always figured the brackets were there to allow a man to pass from one end to the other when the car was empty. I could see brackets like that being used a lot on those many short coal delivery sidings along the Reading's elevated line into Reading Terminal. Note that the car lacks a side plate and that the top of the side sheets were bent over to form a flange, and early PSC trait. If the number (pre 1905 renumbering) is correct, the car is from the very first PRR order for GLs.
 
Eric N.
 
 

 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

Here is an interesting shot:

http://cdm16038.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15017coll8/id/2682/rec/985

....and the fact that they deliberately call it a "relic"?

Check out those interior brackets, and dual brake wheels...

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:59 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

This was my first thought since they appear to be related to PRR, however I was un able to find any likely number series. 1,000 cars would be hard to hide.

Eric N.




Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

Have you looked into whether or not they were sold to the PRR? Many coal companies that bought PRR class clones did this when economic downturns necessitated sale of assets. PRR rostered many ex-coal company hoppers.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars

Does anyone know where their fleet of 1000+ GL design cars mostly built by PSC in 1902 went? They don't appear to have gone to the coal company successors.

Thanks,
Eric

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE



Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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Re: [EXTERNAL] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

Here is an interesting shot:

http://cdm16038.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15017coll8/id/2682/rec/985

....and the fact that they deliberately call it a "relic"?

Check out those interior brackets, and dual brake wheels...

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:59 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)



This was my first thought since they appear to be related to PRR, however I was un able to find any likely number series. 1,000 cars would be hard to hide.

Eric N.




Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

Have you looked into whether or not they were sold to the PRR? Many coal companies that bought PRR class clones did this when economic downturns necessitated sale of assets. PRR rostered many ex-coal company hoppers.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars

Does anyone know where their fleet of 1000+ GL design cars mostly built by PSC in 1902 went? They don't appear to have gone to the coal company successors.

Thanks,
Eric

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE





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Caveats: NONE


Re: [EXTERNAL] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

I did not educate myself sufficiently on this topic, since the PRR hopper effort was (perhaps) being pursued by other individuals within the PRRT&HS; however, there was some discussion at one time, some of it with Al Westerfield, over the number of hoppers in certain private fleets declining quickly, and the number of cars appearing in the ORERs under PRR ownership growing by roughly that number. If one were to take it on (ORER analysis), I would guess you could hazard some pretty good guesses as to what was happening, and when. I believe there were significant numbers (like thousands) of H21A that went that way, too. The Berwind-White GLA were some of the last cars leased/sold to the PRR, and surprisingly for a late date, the PRR found room on the roster for those small twins.

BTW, where did Ellsworth run these cars/interchange them onto the PRR?

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:59 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)



This was my first thought since they appear to be related to PRR, however I was un able to find any likely number series. 1,000 cars would be hard to hide.

Eric N.




Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

Have you looked into whether or not they were sold to the PRR? Many coal companies that bought PRR class clones did this when economic downturns necessitated sale of assets. PRR rostered many ex-coal company hoppers.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars

Does anyone know where their fleet of 1000+ GL design cars mostly built by PSC in 1902 went? They don't appear to have gone to the coal company successors.

Thanks,
Eric

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Caveats: NONE





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Re: projects and more projects

John Barry
 

Bill,

Your comments about wish lists are spot on.  The biggest drawback that I see to your business model is in the "skin" step.  There is a significant barrier to entry there wherein a skilled modeler in the real world has to adapt his or her skills to the virtual realm to bring a product to fruition.  There is a steep learning curve with any software program and Solidworks is not cheap, the student version is $150 for a single year licence and you need to be enrolled in a bona fide educational institution to get that price.  What is needed is a technology that will reverse engineer masters built out of regular modeling materials and translate that into the code that runs your CNC machine.  Then the folks that need 150 XYZ triple valves for their box car fleet or 300 sets of Wine Door locks for their hoppers that can build a prototype can bring them into production.  Your a step closer, but I fear the steep SW curve will keep many needed parts and projects from fruition.  For those that have the inclination to add a new skill, even if it takes away from their hobby time, the future looks bright.  Good Luck.  I hope you can generate enough jobs to afford your set up while keeping the prices low enough for those on limited budgets to profit from the fruits of your and the project designer's labors.
 
John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682


From: Bill Lane
To: Steam Era Freight cars
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:57 AM
Subject: [STMFC] projects and more projects

 
Enzo & all,
 
We are NOT asking for project anyone’s suggestions because some of the first items made are going to be things WE want. Further we are not likely to ask for suggestions for quite some time – if ever. Any person here has a wish list probably of some very obscure items, and none are going to be the same to each other. We are not chasing down each scale’s missing list and filling every micro-need.
 
What we ARE looking for is these items - however obscure - designed by the person that WANTS them and wants Jackson Standard to make it for them. It is YOU starting your own line of items. In some sense it IS a tall order but I have been making items for my personal use and occasional sale for 8 years now. http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm It is not that difficult. While I have not made a complete car I could have! Also your item does not have to be a complete car. Think of the laundry list of detail parts your particular obsession is missing.
 
The point is - sending emails with a wish is not going to do it. That is WHY your item has not been made yet. You have to get some skin in the game. If you want anything badly enough it can and will happen. We are just providing a LOCAL more modeler friendly place to produce your items.
 
Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
 
See my layout progress at:
http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
 



Re: [EXTERNAL] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 

This was my first thought since they appear to be related to PRR, however I was un able to find any likely number series. 1,000 cars would be hard to hide.
 
Eric N.
 

 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

Have you looked into whether or not they were sold to the PRR? Many coal companies that bought PRR class clones did this when economic downturns necessitated sale of assets. PRR rostered many ex-coal company hoppers.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars

Does anyone know where their fleet of 1000+ GL design cars mostly built by PSC in 1902 went? They don't appear to have gone to the coal company successors.

Thanks,
Eric

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


Re: [EXTERNAL] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Eric;

Have you looked into whether or not they were sold to the PRR? Many coal companies that bought PRR class clones did this when economic downturns necessitated sale of assets. PRR rostered many ex-coal company hoppers.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Eric Neubauer
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:19 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] J.W. Ellsworth Coal GL design cars



Does anyone know where their fleet of 1000+ GL design cars mostly built by PSC in 1902 went? They don't appear to have gone to the coal company successors.

Thanks,
Eric



Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


projects and more projects

Bill Lane
 

Enzo & all,

 

We are NOT asking for project anyone’s suggestions because some of the first items made are going to be things WE want. Further we are not likely to ask for suggestions for quite some time – if ever. Any person here has a wish list probably of some very obscure items, and none are going to be the same to each other. We are not chasing down each scale’s missing list and filling every micro-need.

 

What we ARE looking for is these items - however obscure - designed by the person that WANTS them and wants Jackson Standard to make it for them. It is YOU starting your own line of items. In some sense it IS a tall order but I have been making items for my personal use and occasional sale for 8 years now. http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm It is not that difficult. While I have not made a complete car I could have! Also your item does not have to be a complete car. Think of the laundry list of detail parts your particular obsession is missing.

 

The point is - sending emails with a wish is not going to do it. That is WHY your item has not been made yet. You have to get some skin in the game. If you want anything badly enough it can and will happen. We are just providing a LOCAL more modeler friendly place to produce your items.

 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy & PRSL in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

 

See my layout progress at:

http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm

Custom Train Parts Design
http://www.lanestrains.com/SolidWorks_Modeling.htm

PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRphotos.xls 

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com
http://www.lanestrains.com/PRRTHS_Application.pdf

Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com 
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

 


Re: Announcement of Jackson Standard

babbo_enzo@...
 

Hi Brian and compliments and best whishes for your venture!
On your site there is no mention of any project ( well, except in "your" S scale section)
I model in N, so ... despite is not strictly a freigth car I've two suggestions:
- N scale SP Whaleback tender ( not existing in this scale )
- N scale Boiler in SP Harriman version with correct domes position and details for the Bachmann Consolidation.
And... an N scale Stock car good for SP too?
If you need drawings ...
Cheers
Enzo Fortuna
SPH&TS R4851
http://enzofortuna.altervista.org/
http://valleybeforesilicon.blogspot.com/
____________________________
http://sp-layouts.blogspot.com/


Re: CRI&P 53' war gons

caboose9792@aol.com <caboose9792@...>
 

Both al kamm jr & sr were modelers and active in the nmra. Sr was a founding member of the nmra while jr is best known for his work at emd @ la grange. Also both worked in o scale. Last time i saw jr he had retired to the far southwest chicago suburbs.

mark rickert
Sent with Verizon Mobile Email

---Original Message---
From: STMFC@...
Sent: 3/11/2014 3:48 pm
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] CRI&P 53' war gons

Better yet! Thanks, Andy. Al Kamm had a lot of very creative articles in MR--sort of the Andy Sperandeo of the late 1950's, :-) although I think entirely rolling stock-oriented. Dan Sweeney, Jr. Alexandria, VA


Door identification guide

John Barry
 

Thank you to Richard Hendrickson for the truck identification guide.  Is there such an animal for freight car doors?  I could not find one in the files.  Don't know if it is me, Neo, or lack of info.  It would be a great assist in my education.
 
John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682


Kadee announcement

Tim O'Connor
 

Yippee!! Kadee finally releases all of their HGC trucks w/ .088 wheelsets!
http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/newprod.htm

Tim

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