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Re: Steam freight car modeling tools - a decent pair of tweezers

destorzek@...
 

I had one of those years ago, Tim, and it proved to be less useful than it would seem at first. The item to be picked up needs a flat surface at least as large as the hole in the tip; even then, there was nothing to keep the part from pivoting around its point of contact. One of the advantages of real tweezers is they maintain a fixed alignment between part and hand, so slight adjustments of the wrist will change the angle of the part, even after it has made contact with the model. With the vacuum tweezers, not so much.

I should dig that thing out and see if it still works and put it on e-bay.

Dennis


Re: N&W Test Loading Boxcars

George Eichelberger
 

SRHA has a video of the Southern’s screen sided car being smacked into at various speeds. At times, it was loaded with cans of whitewash that would be dumped and spill out the sides of the cars after a rough coupling. There is also a scene where a double sheathed (wood) box car (freshly painted on the side toward the camera) is left fouling a turnout then another box car is kicked into it derailing one and laying the other on its side. Both clips are on a SRHA DVD set Green Frog issued a year or so ago. (Excellent scenes of laying welded rail, working on the Lake Ponch. bridge, etc. The DVDs are available from the SRHA Grab (srha.net).


Re: Fine Wire Screen Material Found in my Kitchen

Tim O'Connor
 

A quick Google search shows there are some incredibly fine wire mesh products available,
down to about 0.001 or smaller wire sizes.

https://www.midwesternind.com/pdf/wire_mesh_chart.pdf

Tim O'

Thanks for a great tip, Bill, but please advise which size you bought or is there no difference in the screen size amongst them? Can't tell from wgt is coming up with the Google search.

Thanks again, Don Valentine...... Who notes that there are still some of these Wright Trak models here for those who want them without delay. Please contact me off list if interested.


Re: Fine Wire Screen Material Found in my Kitchen

Marty McGuirk
 

Bill,

 

Harney and Sons tea bags have some of the finest "mesh" I've seen. I'd suggest using that material.

Marty McGuirk


Re: MRS box car series 8000-8049

Eric Lombard
 

Tim, do any of the service photos of those ACL cars you have show the (presumed) rebuilt side sill.

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On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
 


Eric, you may be correct! -- As far as I know the Wabash cars had 5/5
ends, but I have photos of ACL 14210, 14319, 14378, 14402 and 14499 and
all of those have the 4/5 ends and also the same riveting pattern that
is shown on the MRS cars. I don't have any photos of ACL 14000-14199.

Tim O'Connor



>There is a circumstantial case for these being renumbered from ACL 14100-14199,
>class O-22 built 1941, and/or 14200-14499, class O-24 built 1941. ACL 14000-14099,
>class O-19, built 1938 may be included, though it has slightly different dimensions.
>Perhaps someone knowledgable about the ACL can verify this?
>
> The dimensions in the 10-1963 ORER are exactly the same for the
> MRS and ACL series matching no other car series.
>
> Same Superior doors.
>
> Same side sheet and side sheet rivet pattern.
>
> Same ladders
>
>They differ from the builder photo of #14199 in having a strongly reinforced side sill
>between the bolsters that looks to me, at least, as a later refurbishment.
>
>Other 50-6 cars with Dreadnaught 4-5 ends with W corner posts and double doors have
>different interior dimensions, side sheet/rivet patterns, door types, roofs, side sills, etc.
>
>I appreciate these "out of bounds" photos when they turn up because I have found them

>to occasionally supplement a meager photo record for series built earlier in the century
>when railfan photographers were not so numerous. Thanks for alerting us to it, Tim.
>
>Eric Lombard
>Homewood, IL



Re: Steam freight car modeling tools - a decent pair of tweezers

Tim O'Connor
 

Woah!!! Vacuum Tweezers!! I had no idea! I gots ta get me summa them!
http://www.ottofrei.com/Vacuum-Pick-Up-Tweezer-System-Kit.html

Tim O'Connor

If you go to the Otto Frei website, you will see that tweezers of the same style and from the same manufacturer ranges in price depending on the type of material being used. Otto Frei also features a Live Chat if you have questions while you are searching their website. I bought my current (and only) set of tweezers from them back when you actually bought things from a printed catalog with pictures...imagine that! <g>

Jack Burgess


Re: Fine Wire Screen Material Found in my Kitchen

Bill Welch
 

Don I long ago lost the packaging the Clover House screen came in but knowing me I ordered the smallest available.

Bill Welch


Re: MRS box car series 8000-8049

Tim O'Connor
 

Eric, you may be correct! -- As far as I know the Wabash cars had 5/5
ends, but I have photos of ACL 14210, 14319, 14378, 14402 and 14499 and
all of those have the 4/5 ends and also the same riveting pattern that
is shown on the MRS cars. I don't have any photos of ACL 14000-14199.

Tim O'Connor

There is a circumstantial case for these being renumbered from ACL 14100-14199,
class O-22 built 1941, and/or 14200-14499, class O-24 built 1941. ACL 14000-14099,
class O-19, built 1938 may be included, though it has slightly different dimensions.
Perhaps someone knowledgable about the ACL can verify this?

The dimensions in the 10-1963 ORER are exactly the same for the
MRS and ACL series matching no other car series.

Same Superior doors.

Same side sheet and side sheet rivet pattern.

Same ladders

They differ from the builder photo of #14199 in having a strongly reinforced side sill
between the bolsters that looks to me, at least, as a later refurbishment.

Other 50-6 cars with Dreadnaught 4-5 ends with W corner posts and double doors have
different interior dimensions, side sheet/rivet patterns, door types, roofs, side sills, etc.

I appreciate these "out of bounds" photos when they turn up because I have found them
to occasionally supplement a meager photo record for series built earlier in the century
when railfan photographers were not so numerous. Thanks for alerting us to it, Tim.

Eric Lombard
Homewood, IL


Re: Steam freight car modeling tools - a decent pair of tweezers

albyrno
 

 I use stainless anti-acid,anti magnetic EAEM tweezers made in Switzerland I've had these for 25+ years ,so far they show no signs of wear even though I use them almost everyday.I still pick up .005 wire  from work bench with them they are so well made.My favorite one(OCSA) is 3.25" long and comes to a needle point,(I've stabbed myself several times over the years with this one).I use it for holding the head of NBW details,00-90 screws grab irons and extremely small parts that I don't want flying into next zip code.
     Alan


Re: N&W Test Loading Boxcars

 

Not so strange. I¹ve seen picture of similar cars on SP (car 200) and UP
(car 195220).

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

From: <water.kresse@...>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 at 11:51 AM
To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] N&W Test Loading Boxcars







David, Great find! Think it might have been part of a mobile classroom to
show folks about loading rules, etc.? Al Kresse


From: jaydeet2001@...
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:34:27 PM
Subject: [STMFC] N&W Test Loading Boxcars

This is too strange to not post:

http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=86961
http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=86961

David Thompson








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Re: N&W Test Loading Boxcars

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Mar 26, 2014, at 9:34 AM, jaydeet2001@... wrote:

This is too strange to not post:

http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=86961

David Thompson

Many of the major railroads had similar cars (e.g., in the west Santa Fe, Union Pacific, and Southern Pacific all had one), typically with transparent plastic side sheathing, which were used to graphically educate employees about the damage done to cargo by rough switching and train handling.  So the N&W cars, obviously former USRA single sheathed 50 ton box cars, were not all that strange. 

Richard Hendrickson



Re: N&W Test Loading Boxcars

Charles Peck
 

The L&N RR had a similar car with wire mesh sides. It was equipped with a large speedometer on the side
and an unsecured load inside.  The purpose was to demonstrate the effects of coupling speed on the contents. 
L&N displayed the car in several places but I never got to see the actual demonstration. 
Chuck Peck


Re: N&W Test Loading Boxcars

water.kresse@...
 

David, Great find!  Think it might have been part of a mobile classroom to show folks about loading rules, etc.?  Al Kresse



From: jaydeet2001@...
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:34:27 PM
Subject: [STMFC] N&W Test Loading Boxcars

This is too strange to not post:

http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=86961 http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=86961

David Thompson


Re: MRS box car series 8000-8049

Eric Lombard
 

There is a circumstantial case for these being renumbered from ACL 14100-14199, class O-22 built 1941, and/or 14200-14499, class O-24 built 1941. ACL 14000-14099, class O-19, built 1938 may be included, though it has slightly different dimensions. Perhaps someone knowledgable about the ACL can verify this?
  • The dimensions in the 10-1963 ORER are exactly the same for the MRS and ACL series matching no other car series.
  • Same Superior doors.
  • Same side sheet and side sheet rivet pattern.
  • Same ladders
They differ from the builder photo of #14199 in having a strongly reinforced side sill between the bolsters that looks to me, at least, as a later refurbishment.
Other 50-6 cars with Dreadnaught 4-5 ends with W corner posts and double doors have different interior dimensions, side sheet/rivet patterns, door types, roofs, side sills, etc.

I appreciate these "out of bounds" photos when they turn up because I have found them to occasionally supplement a meager photo record for series built earlier in the century when railfan photographers were not so numerous. Thanks for alerting us to it, Tim.
Eric Lombard
Homewood, IL


Re: Accurail Single Sheathed Box Car - Straight Sill

Mark.Rossiter@...
 

Thanks for the info Ben.  I have a complete set of MM, so I'll ltake a look when I get home tonight.  The font size on the magazine summary page included in each issue got smaller and smaller to the point of being microscopic towards the end.   TRAINS.COM didn't tag the article you referenced at all.

 

Mark Rossiter   


N&W Test Loading Boxcars

David
 

This is too strange to not post:

http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=86961

David Thompson


Re: Accurail Single Sheathed Box Car - Straight Sill

Mark.Rossiter@...
 

Thanks Dennis!  That is exactly the kind of information I was looking for.


Re: MRS box car series 8000-8049

David
 

MKT or N&W? I don't think the details of the MRS car match either of those, though.

David Thompson


Re: Steam freight car modeling tools - a decent pair of tweezers

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

If you go to the Otto Frei website, you will see that tweezers of the same style and from the same manufacturer ranges in price depending on the type of material being used. Otto Frei also features a Live Chat if you have questions while you are searching their website. I bought my current (and only) set of tweezers from them back when you actually bought things from a printed catalog with pictures...imagine that!

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of gtws00@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 5:42 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Steam freight car modeling tools - a decent pair of tweezers

 




I see Dumont Tweezers on Amazon priced from 20 dollars to 50 dollars. Are the ones for 20 some dollars OK?

 

George Toman





Re: Sunshine Type 30 and other tanks

David
 

The Sunshine 6 and 10k (I think, I'd have to check) X-3s were sold out when I tried to order them a year ago. I did get an X-5 kit, though.

David Thompson

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