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Re: Interesting Phoebe Piggyback on a LV half gon

Riverboy
 

I can't get this link to work. I even tried the copy/paste method. It is not clickable. 
 

From: Brian Carlson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:19 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Interesting Phoebe Piggyback on a LV half gon
 
From another list thought it would be of interest here.

http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-04-06-14

LV11089-flatwithload.jpg (image/jpeg, 1024x445 73384 bytes, BF: 6.21 ppb)

David J. Monte Verde

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga, NY


Re: Brake Hose mounting Brackets

hubert mask
 

Kadee makes a bracket and hose mount.    Hubert Mask. 


On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:50 PM, "GARY" <garywildu@...> wrote:

 

I am planning on doing about 100 cars on my layout with Air Hose and the brakes hose mounting bracket. Can anybody recommend a brand to buy.  They will have Kadee #5 on the cars.
Thanks for any help on this.
Gary


LV flat car with a trailer

ed_mines
 

I think that "flat" car was originally a gondola.

I recall having seen an actual photo of one of these  cars.

 

Ed Mines


Re: Interesting Phoebe Piggyback on a LV half gon

rwitt_2000
 

I agree it is a very interesting flat car, but something is not right with the stenciled built date of "12-70".

The October 1959 ORER has a listing for a series of Lehigh Valley 40-ft flat cars with AAR class "FC", 11000 to 11049, with 37 cars on the roster.

Does any one have a diagram book for the LV to verify the built dates?


Brake Hose mounting Brackets

Gary Wildung
 

I am planning on doing about 100 cars on my layout with Air Hose and the brakes hose mounting bracket. Can anybody recommend a brand to buy.  They will have Kadee #5 on the cars.
Thanks for any help on this.
Gary


Southern Black vs. FCR Paint

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Can anyone give me an idea when the Southern shifted from black to red paint for their open-topped cars? I have a few photos of Southern flats and gons painted FCR, but in MOW service circa 1980. I'm interested in something reasonably correct for the early 1950s, preferably 40' or 46' IL.

Thanks much for any help.


Garth Groff


Re: Interesting Phoebe Piggyback on a LV half gon

riverman_vt@...
 

     The car has a 12/70 built date, which puts it beynd the scope of this list but I am wondering if ti wa built as seen in the photo or has been modified in some way? An interesting peice of rolling stock in any case.

Cordially, Don Valentine


SP GS modeling

John Barry
 

I came across a scene that I just have to recreate, as it occurred at the sand house that I'm modelling in Richmond, CA.  Three different photos of SP drop bottom gons on the supply pile.  Where did the sand come from and how to model it are the two questions that come to mind.  Why is the third.  

I recall something that I think  Tony T posted on his blog about a sand source near Watsonville on the coast.  That could make sense as you want good clean sand for your locos and sources in the central valley not so much.  But I'd like to confirm that.

Two, thanks to the SP info on Railgoat's site I was able to come up with several candidate car numbers.  I'm very confident that the partial number I saw in one photo, 2459, is actually 92459, a G-50-11.  The other number looks like X 3/5 0/6 19 which could fall into the , 92900-93899 G-50-12 (93619, 93019), or the 94500-95199 (95019) series.  Despite NEO, I managed to find some info on the SP GS gondolas and so far I've learned that Detail Associates made a kit that would build the -15 and Ulrich had a cast metal kit that could do the -11/12.  What did I miss?  53120-53729 G-50-2 (53619) would be a possibility, but they were tight bottom cars and the photos show drop bottoms.  I read, but failed to write down the type of end to use for -15 as DA had an option that distinguished it from the other kit that could only make later series cars.  Is there a better option, short of brass that is available for the 11-12 cars?  Do any of you have an Ulrich car you would like to sell?  

Writing this brought up a fourth question related to 1&3, did SP ship sand to other ATSF points?  If so, how was it routed?  I can't see SP short hauling itself and expect that they routed the car SP Richmond ATSF delivery.  I suppose Santa Fe could have ordered the cars for SF delivery and not told SP about the extra distance, but I don't think that would have been kosher.  Besides, someone surely would have seen sand gons on the car floats and snapped a photo, so I don't think that was the routing.  But I could see Fresno and Bakersfield getting their sand from Watsonville too.  This I just have to get to the bottom of. 

All of this is a long way to say that if you model Santa Fe Loco service in NorCal, you need to model SP.


John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682


Interesting Phoebe Piggyback on a LV half gon

Brian Carlson
 

From another list thought it would be of interest here.

http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-04-06-14

LV11089-flatwithload.jpg (image/jpeg, 1024x445 73384 bytes, BF: 6.21 ppb)

David J. Monte Verde



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga, NY


Re: UP steel boxcars

caboose9792@...
 

The UP express cars with double doors (is there more than one class?) I am familiar with had high speed trucks. Brad Andonian or anyone else wanting to see a "quick grab" picture of one truck email me today as I happen to have one handy before I hit the road for the week.
Mark Rickert
 

In a message dated 4/3/2014 4:04:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, oscale@... writes:
Not sure but almost all express cars have at least different details from the straight freight cars - body and under frame

Jack McGarry

Allegheny Scale Models
470 Schooley's Mountain Road
Suite 8-117
Hackettstown, New Jersey
07840


Re: HO Barber 70 Ton Trucks

Dave Pfeiffer
 

Dan,



I am interested in 10 pair shipped to the east coast zip 19450 and paid
through Paypal. Thanks.



Dave Pfeiffer







From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
espeefan@aceweb.com
Sent: Saturday, April 5, 2014 10:27 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] HO Barber 70 Ton Trucks





After a wait of several years, I am offering the Red Caboose 70 Ton truck to
the group at $3.90/pair without wheel sets. Postage will be added and for
Paypay, their extra fees will be added.

These trucks were originally done for the RC SP F-70-7 flatcar and other SP
cars used these trucks also, although spring packs varied on some. As
Richard Hendrickson noted:"the Barber S-2 was one of the two truck designs
that were widely used from the end of WW II through the '50s (the other
being the ASF A-3), so the 70 ton Barber S-2 was applied to many cars built
for many different railroads, chiefly (but not exclusively) flat cars, mill
gondolas, large hoppers, and covered hoppers. Later in the '50s, they were
also applied to a growing number of 70 ton box, auto, insulated box, and
mechanical refrigerator cars.
.If you are interested or have questions, contact me OFF LIST at
<espeefan@...>. Thanks.

Dan Smith


Re: Bowser PRR H30 and N&W HC1 covered hoppers

pennsylvania1954
 

Hi Rob--Very accurate for the PRR. In a discussion of BLI's announced PRR H32 covered hopper, Elden Gatwood posted a list of carried commodities in msg #123512. Same would apply to the H30.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Re: Bowser PRR H30 and N&W HC1 covered hoppers

David
 

N&W built ten clones of the PRR design, so both road names are legit (although the N&W cars had Crown trucks, ironically). These were used in cement service, so anything that would have called for cement from PRR or N&W territory would suffice.

David Thompson


RPP CYC #28 Arrives

Bill Welch
 

My copy of #28 arrived today. Twice a year Ed and Pat amaze me with the material they provide on the standard freight cars of our favorite era in a well organized understandable format. Thank you Ed and Pat!
Bill Welch


heaviest 33" HO wheel sets

ed_mines
 

Who makes the heaviest 33" Ho wheel sets?

 

Ed Mines


Erie 79000 series box cars

ed_mines
 

There are some good builders photos of these on the fallen flags site.. Good diagram too.

 

Ed Mines


Bowser PRR H30 and N&W HC1 covered hoppers

Robert kirkham
 

Hi there – saw the announcement of these cars and after a frustrating search of the list messages to locate previous discussions (some but not what I’m looking for) I’m wondering two things I hope some on this list can help with:
- how accurate are the models for the two railroads listed above?  (i.e. is this a PRR model in N&W paint, vice versa, or something short of both)?
- what is the chance of either car getting to port in Canada on the Pacific Coast post-WWII?  I’m not sure what commodities they were used for in the immediate post war era.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Rob Kirkham


Re: Interesting car movements

Dave Nelson
 

WRT the mty NP flats… I’m of the opinion the Ft Dodge Yardmaster was following car service rules by routing them back to Peoria.  IIRC, the rules state IF you can a load that is in the general direction of a car’s home rails use it, else return the empty to the railroad from whom you received it when loaded.

 

And so if that is correct then it makes sense to return them to Peoria and let the other road to use them again… or send them on to whomever they got the loads from.  The fact that sending the empties to Minneapolis, which would have been the short route to NP tracks, makes good sense but I’m pretty sure that’s not what the rules call for. 

 

Dave Nelson


FS Greenville Flat car kits

Doug Junda
 

Sorry for the use of bandwidth on a FOR SALE

I have about 20-30 kits of the Greenville flat cars for sale.
I with Protowest Models and clearing out some old inventory.

The kits come 2 falt cars per Box, and include all detail part, No trucks or couplers.
The have decals for ATSF, Erie, NYC and some limited B&O. The kits normally sold for $44.95. I'm clearing them at at $30.00 plus shipping.

The kits are resin and offer great detail.

Please contact me at djunda AT pdtnetworks DOT org.

I can do check, or Paypal.

Thanks again for looking at this.

Doug Junda


HO Barber 70 Ton Trucks

 

After a wait of several years, I am offering the Red Caboose 70 Ton truck to the group at $3.90/pair without wheel sets. Postage will be added and for Paypay, their extra fees will be added.

These trucks were originally done for the RC SP F-70-7 flatcar and other SP cars used these trucks also, although spring packs varied on some. As Richard Hendrickson noted:"the Barber S-2 was one of the two truck designs that were widely used from the end of WW II through the '50s (the other being the ASF A-3), so the 70 ton Barber S-2 was applied to many cars built for many different railroads, chiefly (but not exclusively) flat cars, mill gondolas, large hoppers, and covered hoppers. Later in the '50s, they were also applied to a growing number of 70 ton box, auto, insulated box, and mechanical refrigerator cars.
.If you are interested or have questions, contact me OFF LIST at <espeefan@...>. Thanks.

Dan Smith

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