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Re: New York Central Boxcar decals

Benjamin Hom
 

Fenton Wells wrote:
"Yes, Bill it is for repaint..."

Careful, Fenton - new cars from the builder also had the paint triangle.  See the reference that I cited earlier tonight.


Ben Hom


Re: New York Central Boxcar decals

O Fenton Wells
 

Yes, Bill it is for repaint and none of the sets I've seen include it.  It surprises me that a railroad as large as the NYC is so short on decals.
Fenton Wells


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:31 PM, <fgexbill@...> wrote:
 

The one missing and IMO much needed decal missing from most if not all NYC decal sets is the little triangle, for what I don't remember--repaint maybe.

Bill Welch




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Re: New York Central Boxcar decals

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Brian, I'll start looking for it.
Fenton Wells


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Brian carlson <prrk41361@...> wrote:
 

Speedwitch has a set. Not sure if currently available. It's very comprehensive. 
Brian Carlson. 


On Apr 7, 2014, at 7:13 PM, <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone make the 1930's through 1950's era decals for NYC boxcars?  The best I could find is the Westerfield sets,but they are  not very crisp.  Is there someone else that makes these?  It must be me not knowing where to look as the PRR guys have great decals, 

Thanks in advance,
Fenton Wells




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Fenton Wells
5 Newberry Lane
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-1144
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Re: New York Central Boxcar decals

Benjamin Hom
 

Bill Welch wrote:
"The one missing and IMO much needed decal missing from most if not all NYC decal sets is the little triangle, for what I don't remember--repaint maybe."

It's a paint code triangle, indicating type of primer, paint, date, and shop.
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/NYC-MODELS-FREIGHT.htm
Scroll 2/3 of the way down the page for more information.


Ben Hom


Re: New York Central Boxcar decals

Brad Andonian
 

Jerry Glow has a few, Rick Leach out here in WA does O scale; Protocraft has them and may be willing to rescale to HO.

Brad Andonian

On Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31 PM, "fgexbill@..." wrote:
 
The one missing and IMO much needed decal missing from most if not all NYC decal sets is the little triangle, for what I don't remember--repaint maybe.
Bill Welch




Re: Brake Hose mounting Brackets

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

Good information Dennis...thanks.

 

Jack Burgess

 



The Kadee brackets follow a USRA WWI era prototype, where the brake pipe was bracketed off the end of the center sill. The PSC bracket follows the later WWII era practice of bracketing the brake pipe off the end sill with a formed sheet steel bracket and U bolt. Both have their place.

Dennis


Re: New York Central Boxcar decals

Bill Welch
 

The one missing and IMO much needed decal missing from most if not all NYC decal sets is the little triangle, for what I don't remember--repaint maybe.
Bill Welch


Re: Interesting Phoebe Piggyback on a LV half gon

Layout Tour
 

According to the LV shop cards, the 11000-11174 series Piggy-Back cars were built in the LV's Packerton Shops between 1956 and 1960 from the 41000 series quad coal cars which were built in 1929.  Cars 11060-11174 were fitted with an ACF Hitch.


Chuck Davis

Norfolk VA


Re: New York Central Boxcar decals

Brian Carlson
 

Speedwitch has a set. Not sure if currently available. It's very comprehensive. 
Brian Carlson. 


On Apr 7, 2014, at 7:13 PM, <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone make the 1930's through 1950's era decals for NYC boxcars?  The best I could find is the Westerfield sets,but they are  not very crisp.  Is there someone else that makes these?  It must be me not knowing where to look as the PRR guys have great decals, 

Thanks in advance,
Fenton Wells


New York Central Boxcar decals

O Fenton Wells
 

Does anyone make the 1930's through 1950's era decals for NYC boxcars?  The best I could find is the Westerfield sets,but they are  not very crisp.  Is there someone else that makes these?  It must be me not knowing where to look as the PRR guys have great decals, 
Thanks in advance,
Fenton Wells


Re: Brake Hose mounting Brackets

destorzek@...
 




---In STMFC@..., <maskisland@...> wrote :

Kadee makes a bracket and hose mount.    Hubert Mask. 

The Kadee brackets follow a USRA WWI era prototype, where the brake pipe was bracketed off the end of the center sill. The PSC bracket follows the later WWII era practice of bracketing the brake pipe off the end sill with a formed sheet steel bracket and U bolt. Both have their place.

Dennis


Red Caboose PFE 30-9-12 kit to kitbash as an MDT Type 4 Reefer?

Bill Welch
 

I am curious if anyone has used the Red Caboose PFE 30-9-12 kit to kitbash as an MDT Type 4 Reefer? I know a fishbelly u/f is necessary but I am wondering if anyone in the group has used the RC kit as a point of departure.

Bill Welch


Re: Interesting Phoebe Piggyback on a LV half gon

Brian Carlson
 

I sent a follow up but haven't seen it. The cars were converted from LV quad hoppers in 1959-1960ish new entry in 1959 ORER.
Brian Carlson


Re: Interesting Phoebe Piggyback on a LV half gon

rwitt_2000
 

Bruce,

The note about "Scranton 1948-10-15" refers to the next image down the list not the one in the provided link. Can you read the re-weigh date?

There is no listing for these cars in the October 1955 ORER so the "FC" flats appeared after that date.

Bob Witt


Re: Interesting Phoebe Piggyback on a LV half gon

Bruce Smith
 

Don, Folks,

While a quick glance might seem to indicate that the build date is 12/70, a closer look shows that the build date is in fact 12/20 or 12/30 (I favor the former) and that the stencil has been partially obscured, probably due to Mike Brock weathering it.  The purported date of the photo is October 15, 1948, location Scranton PA.  I'm not certain about that date as I do not know if trailers of this size were in use at that time and the fifth wheel hitch is an issue, but the chaining of the trailer behind does indicate that this is probably early 1950s at the latest.  The reweigh on the car is also obscured or that might shed additional light on the question


Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of riverman_vt@... [riverman_vt@...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 7:03 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Interesting Phoebe Piggyback on a LV half gon



     The car has a 12/70 built date, which puts it beynd the scope of this list but I am wondering if ti wa built as seen in the photo or has been modified in some way? An interesting peice of rolling stock in any case.

Cordially, Don Valentine




Re: LV flat car with a trailer

ed_mines
 

........photo of one of the original short, LV fishbelly gons.........

 

Ed Mines


interesting Google searches

ed_mines
 

Try Sunshine models and C&BT.

 

Ed Mines


Re: Brake Hose mounting Brackets

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

As others have said, I too use the Hi Tech hoses. I've had Kadee hoses break the first time I put a finished car on the tracks.

 

Jack Burgess

 

Kadee makes a bracket and hose mount.    Hubert Mask. 


On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:50 PM, "GARY" <garywildu@...> wrote:

 

I am planning on doing about 100 cars on my layout with Air Hose and the brakes hose mounting bracket. Can anybody recommend a brand to buy.  They will have Kadee #5 on the cars.
Thanks for any help on this.
Gary





Re: Brake Hose mounting Brackets

Bruce Smith
 

Nelson beat me to it! <G>  I was about to suggest the same approach.  The rubber air hoses are the only thing you will ever use, once you start to use them!

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of Nelson Moyer [ku0a@...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 4:15 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Brake Hose mounting Brackets



Hi Tech Details HO AAR Air Hoses, 22 in. with or without brackets. I use Precision Scale 39156 brackets, since they most closely approximate those found on most CB&Q cars. The PS metal brackets are a royal pain to drill out, but they look good on cars. The flexible Hi Tech Details air hoses are a huge improvement over Kadee plastic or PS metal air hoses, but they are pricy.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Hubert Mask
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 4:05 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Brake Hose mounting Brackets

 

 

Kadee makes a bracket and hose mount.    Hubert Mask. 


On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:50 PM, "GARY" <garywildu@...> wrote:

 

I am planning on doing about 100 cars on my layout with Air Hose and the brakes hose mounting bracket. Can anybody recommend a brand to buy.  They will have Kadee #5 on the cars.
Thanks for any help on this.
Gary




Re: Brake Hose mounting Brackets

Nelson Moyer <ku0a@...>
 

Hi Tech Details HO AAR Air Hoses, 22 in. with or without brackets. I use Precision Scale 39156 brackets, since they most closely approximate those found on most CB&Q cars. The PS metal brackets are a royal pain to drill out, but they look good on cars. The flexible Hi Tech Details air hoses are a huge improvement over Kadee plastic or PS metal air hoses, but they are pricy.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Hubert Mask
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 4:05 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Brake Hose mounting Brackets

 

 

Kadee makes a bracket and hose mount.    Hubert Mask. 


On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:50 PM, "GARY" <garywildu@...> wrote:

 

I am planning on doing about 100 cars on my layout with Air Hose and the brakes hose mounting bracket. Can anybody recommend a brand to buy.  They will have Kadee #5 on the cars.
Thanks for any help on this.
Gary

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