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Re: GATX tank cars

Tony Thompson
 

Jeff Aley wrote:

Okay, now I’ve checked the ORER, and I see that all of these cars are class TMI (insulated).  How do I figure out the capy?  The ORER listing doesn’t show the gallonage, just the weight capy.  Is there a relationship, or is the weight capy just the size of the journals (40-ton vs 50 ton) ?

     No, because of variable cargo densities. But as a ROUGH guide only, 8000-gallon cars often had 40-ton trucks, thus 80,000-pound capacity, and 10,000-gallon cars had 50-ton trucks and 100,000 pounds. Be aware, there are plenty of exceptions. If the phosphorus load was mostly water blanket, these numbers would work, because they fit with liquids around the density of water.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Toy Flat Cars?

bobster1269@...
 

Does anyone know if there is a prototype for the Bachmann 50' 13 stake, steel fish belly side sill flat?  This car is usually bright green with a removable tan, almost yellow deck.  Also, is there a prototype for the old (1958) Revell, 54', 15 stake, steel fish belly side sill flat with an overhanging wood deck?  This car usually shows up at swap meets painted black and lettered for ERIE 4030.  It has a cast metal spine.

Thank you,
Robert Schott


Re: GATX tank cars

Carl Gustafson
 

On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 02:14:05PM +0000, Aley, Jeff A wrote:
Okay, now I've checked the ORER, and I see that all of these cars are class TMI (insulated). How do I figure out the capy? The ORER listing doesn't show the gallonage, just the weight capy. Is there a relationship, or is the weight capy just the size of the journals (40-ton vs 50 ton) ?
If these are phosphorus cars, the specific gravity (density) of phosphorus is 1.82 g/cc, or
approximately 15 lbs/gallon. So if the capacity is 150,000 lbs, that would be about 10,000 gallons (if
I mathed correctly). However, phosphorus is (or was) shipped under a water blanket, so the tank would
have to be big enough to accommodate that as well, so you need to add room for the water; unfortunately I don't know how much water is typically used.

Phosphorus is loaded as a liquid (it melts at 111.6 F). In general, there's enough thermal mass (or
insulation) for the material to remain liquid, but occasionall a tank will freeze if it sits in a
really cold area for a longer-than-anticipated time. So there's probably steam coils to consider (or
maybe a jacket, I dunno), also.

(I used to work for a company that made elemental phosphorus, and have read about freeze-ups as well
as what happens when you load the material without the water blanket - big fire, with dense white
clouds of phosporic anhydride/phosphoric acid!)

Carl Gustafson


Re: CRWX fleet

Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 


Tanks are usually tested a month or two before the built date, so 11-13 is unlikely for a car built 5-15 or later.
The 9-25 ORER shows 85 cars 201-295, all 40-ton, 8000g.. The listing hadn't been updated since 7-23. The 10-20 listing shows 95 cars in the same series. This suggests that 226-250 existed. I thought I'd scan 1913 for ACF orders for 25 tank cars. Anything stand out below?
 
lot 7206 25 for Keith Car
lot 7239 25 for Jacob Dold Packing
lot 7253 25 for Keith Car, 50-ton
 
So, I figure 201-225 are lot 7239, 226-250 are the 1915 ACF lot discussed earlier, 251-270 are unknown, and 271-295 are older cars, possibly relettered from GATX or JDPCo. 5-100. Later just JDPCo 60-95 were shown suggesting the series included just 20 cars numbered by 5s and would be a good quantity match for 251-270.
 
Why 226-250 don't appear in the 1919 tank car capacities is unknown. Perhaps they were just overlooked, and I got an impression that the listing wasn't complete anyway.
 
And thanks to James for asking the question in the first place. Some of these questions can actually get answers if a number of people pool their thoughts and resources. Granted that the CRWX roster is still speculative in many details, but it certainly helps understand the car photos, and at least one avenue of inquiry remains: Anyone know anything about Jacob Dold tank cars? If they were built at Berwick/Milton, I should have the original order(s) listed somewhere.
 
Eric N.
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] CRWX fleet

 

Thanks to everyone for the great responses on and off list about the
CRWX cars. The responses were very helpful to me.

Eric Neubauer wrote:
> Can you provide a little more in formation. Do all CRWX cars predate 1914 or were some acquired after that? Do you have any built dates off of specific cars? The answers may help me focus my search a bit more. I hope to be able to provide you with some order dates and sizes.
>
The first record I can find of cars with CRWX reporting marks is in the
1913 ORER. The Capitol Refining Co. took over the Columbia Cotton Oil &
Provisions Corp. that same year, as mentioned in the text Doug cited.
The facility had been an abattoir and meat packing plant since 1894
under various owners until a shift was made in 1907 to include cotton
oil refining, alongside dressed meats and lard.

In 1913 when the facility became the Capitol Refining Co. the stockyards
and abattoir seem to have been deprioritized in favor of cotton oil
products. The Capitol Refining Co. traded under the brand name CAPRECO.
Some CAPRECO products included White Dome shortening, Shortolene
shortening, Potomac Cooking Oil, and Caprecorn Cooking Oil. Based on the
products CAPRECO manufactured I suspected that the CRWX fleet was
largely or entirely composed of tank cars, and Ian's and Cyril's
references come close to confirming this.

The ORER lists the range CRWX 201 to 300 from beginning in 1913 and the
same listing (including the 1913 date) appears in each ORER through
1919. My ORER library stops at this point and picks up again in 1950,
but thanks to Ian I know now that the last ORER listing for CRWX cars is
in November 1926. The Capitol Refining Co. appears to have ceased
operations entirely in 1933.

I am unsure whether the fact that CRWX 201 to 300 is not fully occupied
in the 1919 ICC Circular 6O Tank Car Capacities document indicates that
the fleet was originally all tank cars and shrunk over time, that other
car types filled in the gaps, or if the range was merely anticipatory
and was never fully occupied.

The originals of the photos posted on Shorpy are in the collection of
the Library of Congress. Here are the links:

CRWX cars at the CAPRECO facility. Viewed from east looking west
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/32600/32665v.jpg (lo rez: 90K)
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/pnp/npcc/32600/32665u.tif (hi rez: 31MB)

CAPRECO plant, viewed from southeast to northwest (after 1915)
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/32600/32666v.jpg (lo rez: 100K)
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/pnp/npcc/32600/32666u.tif (hi rez: 31MB)

The date must be after 1915 because visible in the background of the
second photo I've linked are a trio of radio towers that were erected in
1915. If someone knows automobile types (not my forte), perhaps the one
in the courtyard of the facility could be used determine the date more
exactly.

Eric Neubauer wrote:
> I searched all Railway Age annual order summaries from 1901-1919 and came up with only one:
>
> Capitol Refining 25 40-ton tank, ACF ordered 5-15 lot 7689
> CRWX 284 might have been relettered. Since the large lettering looks original, it might be from a leasing company and suggests the ACF order mentioned above was for 201-225 by process of elimination.
>
I agree with you on CRWX 284. That looks like it was recently relettered.

In the higher resolution image one can zoom in enough to read that the
car on the far left, CRWX 224, was tested "11 1913" by AC&F Milton, PA.
Would it be common for a car's tank to be tested more than a year before
its delivery, or could the 1915 order have been for a different range of
cars, perhaps an incomplete order of 250-270?

I'm hypothesizing that the GATC-buit cars were the 81xx gal. cars
271-295 since 273 and 284 seen in the photo are both GATC products.

Many thanks again for the great responses all around.

All the best,

James

=-=-=-=
James McDonald
Greenbelt, MD.


Re: 8-Rung Ladders

midrly
 

Good luck getting this.  I ordered a dozen of these from my LHS a while back.  When I took the package home, I found that IM had sent the seven-run ladders instead.  The LHS checked, to find them out of stock.

Steve Lucas.


Re: GATX tank cars

Aley, Jeff A
 

Okay, now I’ve checked the ORER, and I see that all of these cars are class TMI (insulated).  How do I figure out the capy?  The ORER listing doesn’t show the gallonage, just the weight capy.  Is there a relationship, or is the weight capy just the size of the journals (40-ton vs 50 ton) ?

 

Thanks,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Aley, Jeff A
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:53 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] GATX tank cars

 

 

Gang,

 

               A UP freight conductor’s book shows the following GATX tank cars carrying phosphorous from Idaho to Kansas (and returning to Idaho filled with water).  The year is 1955.  How can I find out more info about these cars (so that they can be modeled)?  The back of the ACF book shows that in the 1970’s phosphorous could be shipped in ICC-103 cars.  Should I therefore assume that these are plain Type 21 or Type 27 cars?  How would I find out the gallonage (I just now realize that I have not checked the ORER)?

 

Thanks for any help or pointers you can give.

 

GATX

32470

GATX

32480

GATX

32623

GATX

32624

GATX

32636

GATX

32665

GATX

32665

GATX

32684

GATX

32685

GATX

32692

GATX

32443

GATX

32470

GATX

32478

GATX

32480

GATX

32480

GATX

32486

GATX

32624

GATX

32636

GATX

32641

GATX

32643

GATX

32645

GATX

32648

GATX

32667

GATX

32672

GATX

32684

GATX

32686

GATX

32686

GATX

32687

GATX

32688

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 


Re: CRWX fleet

James McDonald
 

Thanks to everyone for the great responses on and off list about the CRWX cars. The responses were very helpful to me.

Eric Neubauer wrote:
Can you provide a little more in formation. Do all CRWX cars predate 1914 or were some acquired after that? Do you have any built dates off of specific cars? The answers may help me focus my search a bit more. I hope to be able to provide you with some order dates and sizes.
The first record I can find of cars with CRWX reporting marks is in the 1913 ORER. The Capitol Refining Co. took over the Columbia Cotton Oil & Provisions Corp. that same year, as mentioned in the text Doug cited. The facility had been an abattoir and meat packing plant since 1894 under various owners until a shift was made in 1907 to include cotton oil refining, alongside dressed meats and lard.

In 1913 when the facility became the Capitol Refining Co. the stockyards and abattoir seem to have been deprioritized in favor of cotton oil products. The Capitol Refining Co. traded under the brand name CAPRECO. Some CAPRECO products included White Dome shortening, Shortolene shortening, Potomac Cooking Oil, and Caprecorn Cooking Oil. Based on the products CAPRECO manufactured I suspected that the CRWX fleet was largely or entirely composed of tank cars, and Ian's and Cyril's references come close to confirming this.

The ORER lists the range CRWX 201 to 300 from beginning in 1913 and the same listing (including the 1913 date) appears in each ORER through 1919. My ORER library stops at this point and picks up again in 1950, but thanks to Ian I know now that the last ORER listing for CRWX cars is in November 1926. The Capitol Refining Co. appears to have ceased operations entirely in 1933.

I am unsure whether the fact that CRWX 201 to 300 is not fully occupied in the 1919 ICC Circular 6O Tank Car Capacities document indicates that the fleet was originally all tank cars and shrunk over time, that other car types filled in the gaps, or if the range was merely anticipatory and was never fully occupied.

The originals of the photos posted on Shorpy are in the collection of the Library of Congress. Here are the links:

CRWX cars at the CAPRECO facility. Viewed from east looking west
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/32600/32665v.jpg (lo rez: 90K)
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/pnp/npcc/32600/32665u.tif (hi rez: 31MB)

CAPRECO plant, viewed from southeast to northwest (after 1915)
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/32600/32666v.jpg (lo rez: 100K)
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/pnp/npcc/32600/32666u.tif (hi rez: 31MB)

The date must be after 1915 because visible in the background of the second photo I've linked are a trio of radio towers that were erected in 1915. If someone knows automobile types (not my forte), perhaps the one in the courtyard of the facility could be used determine the date more exactly.

Eric Neubauer wrote:
I searched all Railway Age annual order summaries from 1901-1919 and came up with only one:

Capitol Refining 25 40-ton tank, ACF ordered 5-15 lot 7689
CRWX 284 might have been relettered. Since the large lettering looks original, it might be from a leasing company and suggests the ACF order mentioned above was for 201-225 by process of elimination.
I agree with you on CRWX 284. That looks like it was recently relettered.

In the higher resolution image one can zoom in enough to read that the car on the far left, CRWX 224, was tested "11 1913" by AC&F Milton, PA. Would it be common for a car's tank to be tested more than a year before its delivery, or could the 1915 order have been for a different range of cars, perhaps an incomplete order of 250-270?

I'm hypothesizing that the GATC-buit cars were the 81xx gal. cars 271-295 since 273 and 284 seen in the photo are both GATC products.

Many thanks again for the great responses all around.

All the best,

James

=-=-=-=
James McDonald
Greenbelt, MD.


Re: Was Interesting loads now Car movement home

Chuck Higdon
 

Jeff,

Thanks for posting the link. It is an interesting quiz.

Take care,

Chuck Higdon



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aley, Jeff A
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 5:30 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com; STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Was Interesting loads now Car movement home





Gang,



I found Jim’s folder at

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/STMFC/files/Car%20movement%20home/ .



I tried his quiz, and it is very interesting challenge. For those of us who enjoy car routing (and waybills and all that stuff), it’s good fun.



Regards,



-Jeff





From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jcdworkingonthenp@onebox.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:57 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Was Interesting loads now Car movement home





I have placed some documents in a file called: Car movements home.



After Clark Probst posted his observations last week under the Interesting Loads post, it jarred my memory. I was going to run this at the last Cocoa Beach however time got away on me.



For us it is a contest. For someone on the railroad involved in car distribution, it was and is an everyday fact of life. In reading the original article it expanded my understanding of car movements which is why I transcribed most of the article as originally presented.



You can open the three items in the file in any order however there is one page (a word document) with a dilemma of returning loaded cars home.



Read the instructions carefully and fully! Not all the cars will be used.



There are two additional pages that are "the rules", not all of them, however enough to complete the task.



In addition, a 1953 AAR US map listing home regions and home railroads.



In several days to a week, I will post the answers and you can see how well you did.



You do not need to post your answer, just write it down and see how you did once the answers are posted.

I will think about a prize for a perfect score.



If you are an ardent reader and have found this contest, do not post the answer or reference the article, not yet anyway. Please respect the right of others to think about solving it and learn as I did.



Jim Dick – St. Paul, MN





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Re: Speedwitch speculation

Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

This is very true when you get Teds Books/models/decals they are really excellent

Paul Doggett UK

On Friday, 11 April 2014, 20:45, Allen Cain wrote:
 
Your response was REFRESHING to say the least in today’s business world where attention to clients’ needs seems to be a low priority.
 
Hang in there!  If your future work is as good as the past it will be worth the wait, particularly if you ramp up the SOUTHERN transition era models!
 
Allen Cain



Re: Speedwitch

Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Ben
       I did and they are in the post but is does not take 5/6 weeks from one side of the pond to the other the problem is no tracking number so you don't know where it is. i got an SP S10 brass 0-6-0 switcher the other day took about 15 days including customs.
 
Paul Doggett UK


On Saturday, 12 April 2014, 2:20, Ben Heinley wrote:
 
Paul:

I ordered 5 books from Speedwitch at about the same time as you did.  In March I emailed them asking about the order and was told that the orders were more than his in stock supply and he was waiting for the printer.  About 2-1/2 weeks ago I received my order.  Email them and see if you get a response.  They are great books!

Ben Heinley
Denver, Colorado

 


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:27 AM, <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:
 
I am awaiting a book ordered and paid for in late February i have received other items from the states but no book yet
Paul Doggett UK




Re: 8-Rung Ladders

benjamin
 

John have you tried looking at Tichy #3065 8 rung ladders? The are for Reefers and may be too short.  They are 1-1/4 inches long with 14" rung spacing.

Ben Heinley
Denver, Colorado


Re: 8-Rung Ladders

Schleigh Mike
 

I used Detail Associates #FC 6241 on my Sunshine 18.1 and Des Plaines AAR "1937" ERIE cars.  18" on the side, 16" on the end.  Mike

On Friday, April 11, 2014 1:20 PM, Barry Bennett wrote:
 
Atlas part # BL100018.

Easy to find on the Atlas site.

Barry Bennett
Coventry, England.


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:
 
john,
Have a look at my part #YMW-303, http://yarmouthmodelworks.com/details.php
It is an 8 rung ladder with 16" rung spacings. Overall length just under 10'6"
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 4/11/2014 12:52 PM, John Golden wrote:
 
Gentlemen,
 
I have a question for you from the "I Started a Project Before I Did My Research" file.
 
I'm building up two CB&Q cars using the IM 1937 Modified Box Car model.  As I was building the cars I noticed that the prototypes have eight-rung ladders, not seven-rung ladders as included with the kit.  Thankfully I noticed this BEFORE the models were painted and decaled.
 
I looked on the Intermountain website for eight-rung ladders but the part listings are ambiguous.  DW eight-rung ladders won't work--they're about two scale feet too long.  Can anyone please recommend a suitable eight-rung ladder that will work, to include a part number if you have it handy?
 
Thanks,
John
 
John Golden
O'Fallon, IL
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Re: Speedwitch

benjamin
 

Paul:

I ordered 5 books from Speedwitch at about the same time as you did.  In March I emailed them asking about the order and was told that the orders were more than his in stock supply and he was waiting for the printer.  About 2-1/2 weeks ago I received my order.  Email them and see if you get a response.  They are great books!

Ben Heinley
Denver, Colorado

 


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:27 AM, <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:
 

I am awaiting a book ordered and paid for in late February i have received other items from the states but no book yet

Paul Doggett UK



Re: 8-Rung Ladders

Andy Carlson
 

Intermountain has an 8-rung ladder for a 10'6" IH car. It is sold as a
" Modified" 4/4 improved Drednaught end with a Canadian style of included side sill corner steps, which is no problem removing.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: John Golden
To: "stmfc@..." ; "resinfreightcars@..."
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:52 AM
Subject: [STMFC] 8-Rung Ladders

 
Gentlemen,
 
I have a question for you from the "I Started a Project Before I Did My Research" file.
 
I'm building up two CB&Q cars using the IM 1937 Modified Box Car model.  As I was building the cars I noticed that the prototypes have eight-rung ladders, not seven-rung ladders as included with the kit.  Thankfully I noticed this BEFORE the models were painted and decaled.
 
I looked on the Intermountain website for eight-rung ladders but the part listings are ambiguous.  DW eight-rung ladders won't work--they're about two scale feet too long.  Can anyone please recommend a suitable eight-rung ladder that will work, to include a part number if you have it handy?
 
Thanks,
John
 
John Golden
O'Fallon, IL



GATX tank cars

Aley, Jeff A
 

Gang,

 

               A UP freight conductor’s book shows the following GATX tank cars carrying phosphorous from Idaho to Kansas (and returning to Idaho filled with water).  The year is 1955.  How can I find out more info about these cars (so that they can be modeled)?  The back of the ACF book shows that in the 1970’s phosphorous could be shipped in ICC-103 cars.  Should I therefore assume that these are plain Type 21 or Type 27 cars?  How would I find out the gallonage (I just now realize that I have not checked the ORER)?

 

Thanks for any help or pointers you can give.

 

GATX

32470

GATX

32480

GATX

32623

GATX

32624

GATX

32636

GATX

32665

GATX

32665

GATX

32684

GATX

32685

GATX

32692

GATX

32443

GATX

32470

GATX

32478

GATX

32480

GATX

32480

GATX

32486

GATX

32624

GATX

32636

GATX

32641

GATX

32643

GATX

32645

GATX

32648

GATX

32667

GATX

32672

GATX

32684

GATX

32686

GATX

32686

GATX

32687

GATX

32688

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 


Re: Was Interesting loads now Car movement home

Aley, Jeff A
 

Gang,

 

               I found Jim’s folder at

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/STMFC/files/Car%20movement%20home/ .

 

               I tried his quiz, and it is very interesting challenge.  For those of us who enjoy car routing (and waybills and all that stuff), it’s good fun.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of jcdworkingonthenp@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:57 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Was Interesting loads now Car movement home

 

 

            I have placed some documents in a file called:  Car movements home.

 

            After Clark Probst posted his observations last week under the Interesting Loads post, it jarred my memory. I was going to run this at the last Cocoa Beach however time got away on me.

 

            For us it is a contest. For someone on the railroad involved in car distribution, it was and is an everyday fact of life. In reading the original article it expanded my understanding of car movements which is why I transcribed most of the article as originally presented.

 

             You can open the three items in the file in any order however there is one page (a word document) with a dilemma of returning loaded cars home. 

 

             Read the instructions carefully and fully!                Not all the cars will be used.

 

   There are two additional pages that are "the rules", not all of them, however enough to complete the task.

 

        In addition, a 1953 AAR US map listing home regions and home railroads.

 

In several days to a week, I will post the answers and you can see how well you did. 

 

You do not need to post your answer, just write it down and see how you did once the answers are posted.

I will think about a prize for a perfect score.

 

If you are an ardent reader and have found this contest, do not post the answer or reference the article, not yet anyway. Please respect the right of others to think about solving it and learn as I did.  

 

Jim Dick – St. Paul, MN


Re: Santa Fe War Emergency Boxcars

Andy Sperandeo
 

Hello Bill,

The trucks for the Bx-38 class were ASF A-3 Ride Control types, the Santa Fe's favorite from the mid 1940s on. I've used the Kadee HGC version of these trucks on my InterMountain Bx-38s. The only other added details I see on my cars are uncoupling levers and a  "profile" simulation of the Royal Type F brake regulator made from strip styrene. As others have said, the RPC Cyc has published photos of Bx-38 boxcars.

Good luck with your models.

Andy


Re: Speedwitch speculation

"scott@wiredark.com
 

As a business owner, I applaud Ted for this candor. I am not traditionally
much more than a lurker in STMFC – but I feel his response warrants a
positive accolade.

Scott Nattrass
Colorado

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ted
Culotta
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 7:51 AM
To: stmfc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Speedwitch speculation

 
A few kind souls alerted me to the fireworks occurring regarding Speedwitch
so I felt it prudent to enter the discussion.


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Re: Speedwitch speculation

Allen Cain
 

Your response was REFRESHING to say the least in today’s business world where attention to clients’ needs seems to be a low priority.

 

Hang in there!  If your future work is as good as the past it will be worth the wait, particularly if you ramp up the SOUTHERN transition era models!

 

Allen Cain

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