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Re: Cudahy Reefer lettering

Aley, Jeff A
 

Well, the last line appears to be about the springs (???LLER-TK SPGS), so I think Dave’s question is relevant.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 5:16 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Cudahy Reefer lettering

 

 

Dave, the springs are an experiment with a rubber block by the Fairmont Railway Motors Co. sometime in the late 30’s. The photo comes from the Fairmont factory photo collection via my collection, and was published in Billboard Refrigerator Cars by Richard Hendrickson and Edward Kaminski.

 

I want to know what the lettering says on the end.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Cudahy Reefer lettering

Douglas Harding
 

Dave, the springs are an experiment with a rubber block by the Fairmont Railway Motors Co. sometime in the late 30’s. The photo comes from the Fairmont factory photo collection via my collection, and was published in Billboard Refrigerator Cars by Richard Hendrickson and Edward Kaminski.

 

I want to know what the lettering says on the end.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Cudahy Reefer lettering

Dave Lawler
 

What kind of springs(?) are in the trucks on CRLX 5557?
Dave Lawler


Re: Buick Racing Team “Box Car”

Dennis Storzek
 

While it was likely built new, it looks like an adaptation of the horse express cars of the day... and, if you look closely, it has a steam line connector, so is equipped for passenger service. Boxcar, indeed!

Dennis Storzek


Re: Cudahy Reefer lettering

Aley, Jeff A
 

??? Shank

??S. 4-POINT

?UPPORT

??LLER-TK SPGS

 

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 8:01 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Cudahy Reefer lettering

 

 

I need some help deciphering the end lettering of a Cudahy Reefer. However I have a very shallow image of the end. Due to the nuances of Neo, ie I can’t post the tif file photos, I have posted the images in a File Folder labled “Cudahy Reefer”. You will find three images, a jpg of the entire car, a hi rez scan of the end, and a stretched scan of the end lettering. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/STMFC/files/Cudahy%20Reefer/

 

Here is what I think is there.

 

??? Retainer

K-2 Triple Valve

Dirt Collector

ARA No 2 Brake Beam

(something) Friction

Draft-Gear

??? coupler

??? Shank

???

???

???

 

If anyone can help it will be appreciated.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Cudahy Reefer lettering

Douglas Harding
 

I need some help deciphering the end lettering of a Cudahy Reefer. However I have a very shallow image of the end. Due to the nuances of Neo, ie I can’t post the tif file photos, I have posted the images in a File Folder labled “Cudahy Reefer”. You will find three images, a jpg of the entire car, a hi rez scan of the end, and a stretched scan of the end lettering. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/STMFC/files/Cudahy%20Reefer/

 

Here is what I think is there.

 

??? Retainer

K-2 Triple Valve

Dirt Collector

ARA No 2 Brake Beam

(something) Friction

Draft-Gear

??? coupler

??? Shank

???

???

???

 

If anyone can help it will be appreciated.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


New file uploaded to STMFC

STMFC@...
 

Hello,

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New file uploaded to STMFC

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Hello,

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Buick Racing Team “Box Car”

thecitrusbelt@...
 

This link is to a circa 1908 image of a special boxcar (looks more like a converted passenger car) used by Buick to haul its racing cars:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IjXsMuUrTqM/UYuGjkhTkuI/AAAAAAAAUYk/IMsCQmsdZ9c/s1600/buick+team+railcar.JPG

 

A brief discussion of this car is found on Page 34 (fourth column) in the article on this link:

http://www.buickheritagealliance.org/content/pdf/BuickRaceCarsFromHell2.pdf

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Discussion of Wood Roofs on House Cars

Craig Bisgeier
 

Randy, thank you for the paper on the early roof systems.  Very interesting.  There appears to be a page (or more) missing between page 8 and 9, though.
 
Craig Bisgeier
Clifton, NJ
 
Visit the Housatonic Model Railroad website at:

The programmer's wife tells him, "Go to the store and get a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen."  The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread.


Re: STMFC

Rick Jesionowski
 

Are there any models available for this car, the DT&I ended up with some and they kept the map herald with new DT&I reporting marks.  

And I would like one of these cars!

Rick Jesionowski


(No subject)

seaboard_1966
 

Folks, the 2014 Central Ohio RPM was held this past weekend at Marion Union Station.  We had over 500 models on display and about 65 folks attending the meet.  9 clinics were presented and the NS executive train made an appearance as well. 
 
I have posted photos to my photobucket page and urge folks to check them out.
 
 
We were missing a usual attendee, Andy Harman could not be there for serious health issues.  We are happy to hear that things are looking up for Andy and look forward to having him there next year.
 
Next years meet is planned for April 23-25 at Marion Union Station.  We hope to see you there.
 
Denis Blake
Central Ohio RPM


Re: ORER 1901-1917 from Google Books

Doug Chapman
 

Eric, thanks for the great work in compiling this document!  It really helps those of us interested in the WWI era railroading. 

Doug Chapman


Re: ORER 1901-1917 from Google Books

babbo_enzo@...
 

"Sorry! Books on Google Play is not available in your country yet.
We're working to bring the content you love to more countries as quickly as possible.Please check back again soon."

Thanks anyway for your work!
Enzo Fortuna


Re: Santa Fe Bx-11/12 extended roof rebuilds

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:11 PM, David bott <dbott@...> wrote:

Where can I find Larry Occhello's list you reference below?

David, it was published years ago (1991) by the Santa Fe Modelers Organization, a predecessor of the present-day Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society, and has long been out of print.  However, you might find a copy on E-Bay, ABE, or one of the other common sources for second-hand books.

Richard Hendrickson



Re: Santa Fe Bx-11/12 extended roof rebuilds

John Barry
 

David,

For now you will have to find it on the secondary market as it is out of print on the ATSF society website.

This is unfortunate as it truly is an invaluable reference.  I hear rumors of an update that will bring it to the merger in 1995. 
 
John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682



From: David bott <dbott@...>
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Santa Fe Bx-11/12 extended roof rebuilds

 
Where can I find Larry Occhello's list you reference below?

David Bott



> On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Richard Hendrickson wrote:
>
> Larry Occhello’s Freight Cars by Class and Car Number 1906-1991, which I find to be an invaluable reference, shows 2,000 Bx-11s rebuilt with extended roofs in 1941. O



Re: Santa Fe Bx-11/12 extended roof rebuilds

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Where can I find Larry Occhello's list you reference below?

David Bott

On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@opendoor.com> wrote:

Larry Occhello’s Freight Cars by Class and Car Number 1906-1991, which I find to be an invaluable reference, shows 2,000 Bx-11s rebuilt with extended roofs in 1941. O


Walthers P2K as Santa Fe Auto cars

John Barry
 

I see from the 1950 Significant Freight Car Classes posted on the ATSFRR.org website that the P2K kit is the basis for many of the ATSF 50' Auto cars.  Where can I find info on modifying it for the Fe-24 and bashing it for the others?  Neo defeated my attempt to search the STMFC archive and I did not see a modeling article link on the Society website.
 
John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682


RC HO Barber 70 Ton S2 Trucks

 

After a wait of several years, I am offering the Red Caboose 70 Ton truck
to the group at $3.90/pair without wheel sets. Postage will be added and
for Paypal, their extra fees will be added.

These trucks were originally done for the RC SP F-70-7 flatcar and other SP
cars used these trucks also, although spring packs varied on some. As
Richard Hendrickson noted:"the Barber S-2 was one of the two truck designs
that were widely used from the end of WW II through the '50s (the other
being the ASF A-3), so the 70 ton Barber S-2 was applied to many cars built
for many different railroads, chiefly (but not exclusively) flat cars, mill
gondolas, large hoppers, and covered hoppers. Later in the '50s, they were
also applied to a growing number of 70 ton box, auto, insulated box, and
mechanical refrigerator cars.
.If you are interested or have questions, contact me OFF LIST at
<espeefan@...>. Thanks.

Dan Smith


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Re: Caboose Signal Valves

Paul Hillman
 


Jim, Very beautiful stories and facts and history. Wish I could have been there too. Never got to work for a RR but applied to the SP twice. Always missed their hiring dates.
 
Thanks for all the details.
 
Paul Hillman
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Caboose Signal Valves

 

To add to the answers about caboose whistle valves and as someone who rode cabooses for a living during the first 10 years of my career, it should be noted that use of the whistle, especially on long trains, was discouraged due to the fact that a small brake pipe reduction from the rear end could cause sticking brakes in the train.

Also, as noted by someone, many railroads had different components on their cabs in addition to the whistle and brake pipe valves.  For example, the B&O had a rod and lever attachment that allowed the conductor and/or flagman to close the angle cock from the rear platform of the cab as well as a chain that was connected to the operating lever and ended on the platform cross-rail.  These were used to cut helpers off on the fly, common on the B&O that used helpers extensively east or Pittsburgh (all the way to Philadelphia).  Other railroads required the rear-end train crews to get down on the steps to lift the cut lever, and lay down on the rear platform to close the angle cock. 

With regard to the brake pipe valves (both at the ends and inside near the cupola or bay window), these were used extensively in pre-radio days in order to stop a train if a defect was seen from the rear-end.  For example, sticking brakes, hot journal, shifted load, etc.  They were not used to put the air in the emergency position except when the reason for stopping the train dictated an emergency application.  Many crews liked to use the valve on the rear platform because it was not "stepped" like the ones inside the cab.  This was because the "stepped" valves were subjected to a greater effort in applying the brakes, and could result in an accidental emergency application.  Brake applications from the rear end were done for a number of additional reasons.  For example, when entering the receiving tracks at Potomac Yard, we would stop the train from the rear end as soon as we were in the clear because the RF&P wanted the trains as near the north end of the tracks as possible; also, our motel was right across a field from the north end of the receiving tracks, so the flagman had a short walk over to where we stayed.  Usually moves like this were known by the engine crew, so they would handle the train accordingly (i.e. slow down around the middle of the receiving track, refrain from using the automatic brake, etc.).

Jim Wolf
Belen, NM

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