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Re: MoPac Modeling Yahoogroup Help needed

Dan Hall
 

I attempted to visit the group to vote but it appears that I've been purged. Same for the Frisco group. Nothing would surprise me with that administrator. Trying to rejoin, but I can't get past the Boo-Hoo code. I'll try again later. That's a vote I've been waiting for. Dan Hall Fort Smith


Re: Weathering Solutions decals

Clark Propst
 

I believe they’re the same guys that were at the St Louis RPM last summer. I’ve seen their decals at swap meets and train shows.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: New question on an old technique

Benjamin Hom
 

Jerry Michels asked:
"I have used a technique in the past ( I am sure described here) to
weather boxcars using post-it notes and spraying at an angle.  It really
made the individual panels pop out.  Can someone recount the technique or
post a reference?  It has been years since I use the
technique (actually years since I weathered a boxcar/reefer) and I am doing
something wrong because when I try it now it looks horrible."
This is one of Greg Martin's tricks.  Check his past freight car articles in RMC or Mainline Modeler; I'm sure he'll be along later with more details.

Ben Hom


MoPac Modeling Yahoogroup Help needed

asychis@...
 

The MoPac Modeling yahoogroups is having problems with its current moderator (Tom Stolte).  It seems he has abandoned his role as moderator and we're trying to get a new moderator in place.  Yahoo requires a poll of the group members to replace a moderator who has abandoned a site.  If you belong to the group, please vote in the poll.  The new moderator will be Dick Ryker, a long time Missouri Pacific modeler and historian. A very dedicated person.
 
Thanks!
 
Jerry Michels


New question on an old technique

asychis@...
 

Hi Folks, 
 
I have used a technique in the past ( I am sure described here) to weather boxcars using post-it notes and spraying at an angle.  It really made the individual panels pop out.  Can someone recount the technique or post a reference?  It has been years since I use the technique (actually years since I weathered a boxcar/reefer) and I am doing something wrong because when I try it now it looks horrible.
 
Thanks!
 
Jerry Michels
 


Re: Wheelset and coupler choices.

riverman_vt@...
 

    There is one place where even I would like to see Code 88 wheels applied. This is on HO Scale models of steam locomotives. Were that to be done it might make it possible to have counterweights on the drivers that hung outward more like those of the prototype and looked more realistic from doing so.

 

Cordially, Don Valenitne


Westerfield kits for sale

Rio Grande Ltd <rgmodels@...>
 

I have the following Westerfield kits for sale.  All six $100 plus shipping.

R-30-1 reefer, S-40-5 stock, DS box car, Ore car, R-30-6 reefer, le-X reefer.

contact me off line  eabracher@... for kit details.

eric bracher


Re: WTB - P2k Insolated tank car kits

Nelson Moyer <ku0a@...>
 

Andy Carlson offered a case of 12 10,000 gal. P2K kits earlier today, but I don’t remember which group he posted to.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

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Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:18 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] WTB - P2k Insolated tank car kits

 

 

I would like to add some P2K insolated tanks to my railroad. Kits are great - my main consideration is price. Anyone who has some they was to get rid of can contact me off list.

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J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@...
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417

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WTB - P2k Insolated tank car kits

Steve SANDIFER
 

I would like to add some P2K insolated tanks to my railroad. Kits are great - my main consideration is price. Anyone who has some they was to get rid of can contact me off list.
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@...
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417


F&C hopper for sale

CJ Riley
 

I have an unopened F&C Berwind hopper kit for sale (HO), Kit number 6740

$25 plus $5 shipping. Reply off line to cjriley42(at) yahoo.com

CJ Riley
Port Ludlow WA


PRR x-29 leased to DT&I

Brad Andonian
 

Dear Ben,

I cannot locate the scan you put in the photo section; can you send me a link or image?

Thanks,
Brad


Re: Masking issue with Tru-Color paint - looking for some suggestions.

Jack Burgess
 

Barry...email me directly at jack@... directly so that I'll have your email address...

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 10:11 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Masking issue with Tru-Color paint - looking for some suggestions.

 






Hello Jack,

       I would like to receive a copy of the article. Thanks Barry K.

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Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [STMFC] Masking issue with Tru-Color paint - looking for some suggestions.

 

 

I wrote an article for RMC a couple years on using styrene to reinforce resin house cars like Don suggests. But rather than trying to cut the piece of styrene exactly the width and length needed, I cut one maybe 3/8" wider than needed and 1/8" shorter. Then cut that piece on a diagonal from one end to the other starting about 1/4" down from one corner and 1/4" up from the opposite end. The results in two pieces somewhat like triangles.

 

Once your resin "box" is done, glue one of the "triangle" about halfway from the top to the bottom of the car with the long end butted up against one end. Then glue the other triangle in place...because the width of the original rectangle was more than the interior width of car, the pieces of styrene will overlap. Glue them together at the joint and the result will be a tight seal a on all four sides. 

 

Difficult to explain without photos...if anyone wants a copy of my short article, let me know and I'll email it to you Tuesday. (We are out of town until late Monday.)

 

Jack Burgess

 

 

 


On May 10, 2014, at 2:38 PM, "riverman_vt@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

Say fellows, waht is the matter with using som .040 styrene cut to the size you need for bracing?

Certainly we have the ability to cut square corners for it and it can be made to any width or height one

needs for given model to account for the varying thickness of teh sides, varying heights and such. And

for masking how about a thinner width tape and paper like the collision shops use on automobiles?

 

Cordailly, Don Valentine





Re: Masking issue with Tru-Color paint - looking for some suggestions.

Barry Kenner
 


Hello Jack,
       I would like to receive a copy of the article. Thanks Barry K.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Masking issue with Tru-Color paint - looking for some suggestions.

 

I wrote an article for RMC a couple years on using styrene to reinforce resin house cars like Don suggests. But rather than trying to cut the piece of styrene exactly the width and length needed, I cut one maybe 3/8" wider than needed and 1/8" shorter. Then cut that piece on a diagonal from one end to the other starting about 1/4" down from one corner and 1/4" up from the opposite end. The results in two pieces somewhat like triangles.

Once your resin "box" is done, glue one of the "triangle" about halfway from the top to the bottom of the car with the long end butted up against one end. Then glue the other triangle in place...because the width of the original rectangle was more than the interior width of car, the pieces of styrene will overlap. Glue them together at the joint and the result will be a tight seal a on all four sides. 

Difficult to explain without photos...if anyone wants a copy of my short article, let me know and I'll email it to you Tuesday. (We are out of town until late Monday.)

Jack Burgess




On May 10, 2014, at 2:38 PM, "riverman_vt@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

Say fellows, waht is the matter with using som .040 styrene cut to the size you need for bracing?

Certainly we have the ability to cut square corners for it and it can be made to any width or height one

needs for given model to account for the varying thickness of teh sides, varying heights and such. And

for masking how about a thinner width tape and paper like the collision shops use on automobiles?

 

Cordailly, Don Valentine


Re: Auto parts box car part loaded in car shot (UNCLASSIFIED)

water.kresse@...
 

Era dependent, Ford had regional assembly plants and the at the Rouge.  Pennsy had track access on the north side of the Ford Rouge complex where "almost everything" was fabricated (soon frames came from suppliers like AO Smith, Dana, etc).  Fenders and hoods were bolted on after the body drop at the assembly plant.
Al Kresse
 


Re: Auto parts box car part loaded in car shot (UNCLASSIFIED)

Larry Wolohon
 

Eldon,
 
Fisher was part of GM, so I wouldn't think that Fisher had anything to do with a Ford fender, probaby at one of Ford's stamping plants or a supplier to Ford such as Budd.
 
Larry Wolohon


From: "Era Freight cars, Steam"
To: "Era Freight cars, Steam"
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:12:59 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Auto parts box car part loaded in car shot (UNCLASSIFIED)

 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


Folks;


I have been asked several times recently how the auto parts were actually loaded; i.e., how the "racks" worked. In this case, PRR X37 66230 with a Ford side/rear fender assembly in place. 1954 Ford?


This is the kind of panel Fisher Body plants all over the country were producing.


http://cdm16038.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15017coll8/id/4650/rec/261\


Elden Gatwood


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Caveats: NONE




Re: WP Harriman Stock Cars

Bill Welch
 

Toward the end of both RMJ and my LHS in Northern Virginia, seeing RMJ was difficult and I am sure I never saw this article so thank you Ben for spotlighting it.

While I have been interested to read of members nostalgia about Train Miniature, this article reminds me what a great company the Red Caboose was and still is really, but with a very different presence. My personal favorite is the X29/ARA 1924 group of kits. Absolutely beautiful tooling! I don't have the stock car but have heard is very well executed.

Bill Welch





P2K undec 10K gallon tank car kits

Andy Carlson
 

Hello,
I have a full case of LifeLike P2K tank car undec kits in the 10,000 gallon type 21 configuration. I am offering these for sale.

Priced at $149 for the case of 12, shipping included. If interested, contact me off-list (PLEASE) at

I accept checks and money orders. for a small fee, I can accept PayPal.
Thanks, -Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Wheelset and coupler choices.

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 5/16/2014 10:37 AM, 'Mike Brock' brockm@... [STMFC] wrote:
The width of the wheel matched the NMRA Code 88 wheel...it was .088. 
However, since the flange was larger than that of an NMRA Code 88 wheel, the 
tread of the so-called Code 88 wheel was actually smaller than that of the 
NMRA Code 88 wheel standard.

    I looked this up once and this comment is from memory (shame on me) but I believe code 88 has a .023 flange instead of a .025 flange.  I wasn't worried about .002 so!!!!!!!
    I think for many years we referred to the better wheels, of the time, as RP25s so I'm not much worried about referencing the current better wheels as .088s.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: WP Harriman Stock Cars

Benjamin Hom
 

Bill Pardie asked:
"Since Richard Hendrickson did a clinic a few years ago on improving RTR models I have been looking for a Red Caboose Western Pacific Harriman stock car. I of course wanted to duplicate Richard's efforts. I finally found one and it arrived yesterday. Now I find that I do not have a photo of the prototype WP car. I don't recall seeing one while scanning Bob's photos at Naperville. If anyone has a source please let me know.

I am looking for the version that had not been converted to a double deck."

From Richard's article in the October 2006 issue of Railmodel Journal, WP 75169:http://trainlife.com/magazines/pages/46/3281/october-2006-page-21

Here's the link to the beginning of the article:
http://trainlife.com/magazines/pages/46/3275/october-2006-page-15

Ben Hom


Re: Wheelset and coupler choices.

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <brockm@...> wrote :


I'm not sure if all of the so-called Code 88 wheels are the same, but at
least some so-called Code 88 wheels did indeed have NMRA Code 110 flanges.
The width of the wheel matched the NMRA Code 88 wheel...it was .088.
However, since the flange was larger than that of an NMRA Code 88 wheel, the
tread of the so-called Code 88 wheel was actually smaller than that of the
NMRA Code 88 wheel standard.

Mike Brock

==========

Yeah, NMRA RP-25, where the modern version of model wheel flanges are specified, defines ONE wheel profile, which is then enlarged or reduced in proportion for the different "CODE" widths. Therefore, a CODE 88 wheel flange should be .002" lower and .005" narrower than the flange on a CODE 110 wheel.

The problem is, this would require all new tooling for the screw machine that's cranking them out, and at least one manufacturer took the easy way out; use the same flange dimensions for both, and just cut the wheel narrower.

I actually like this better, since with all the flanges the same depth, filled flange bearing flangeways work well, and with filled flangeways, wheel drop in frogs is no longer a problem, even if the wheel tread is really too narrow. The wheels can be gauged close to the minimum back-to-back, and gauged like this, the dimension over the face of the wheels is within an inch of a scale reduction of the prototype, so the wheel plate to truck frame distance is correct, if the trucks are actually scale width. The wheels are still 33% wider than the prototype, but all that extra width is between the gauge.

Dennis Storzek

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