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Re: Tropicana in the 1950s

Bill Welch
 

Orange Juice concentrate was in a sense a product of WWII in that the people that developed the methodology for concentrating the OJ and quick freezing it had developed the processes and methods by which blood products could be preserved and shipped and stored. Meanwhile an African-American orphan who had learned auto-mechanics developed a portable freezing system and together with venture capitalist formed Thermo-King by 1940 and had their system proved in combat as the military equipped trailers with their system to bring frozen items to the various theaters of operations. At war's end trailer manufacturers were offering Thermo-King equipped trailers that really threatened Fruit Growers' business from Florida especially. This is why they were so active in the development of mechanical reefers as the Orange Concentrate business exploded by the the late 1940's.

Bill Welch


Tropicana in the 1950s

Craig Zeni
 

Is there any evidence that prior to their insulated/mechanical cars of the late 1960s that Trop used ice reefers? Bill Welch indicated to me that he thought Trop used FGEX cars; a friend in Lakeland FL thinks he recalls seeing orange cars with Tropic Anna on them in the 50s. It's alluded to in the Wikipedia article (duly taken with a grain of rock salt) that some concentrate was shipped by rail in the 50s (and 60s) but I'm trying to establish if there were Trop-painted cars prior to the mechanicals later of Juice Train fame.

Thanks,

Craig Zeni
Cary NC


MP order date?

Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 

The Pressed Steel Car production list will be up in the next week or so. It will be a freely downloadable PDF.
 
I have a question.
 
When (month-year) were StLB&M 20700-20999 and MP 80000-80499 40' box cars ordered? Railway Age inconveniently missed them in their annual list suggesting it was about the end of 1946/beginning of 1947.
 
Thanks,
Eric N.


Re: Help ID reporting marks for 1934 tank car

Ian Cranstone
 

On 2014-06-18, at 11:21 PM, Dave Bott dbott@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

As I'm transcribing the SR Winston-Salem train conductor's book from
1934, some reporting marks are giving me trouble. This one I have
not been able to resolve after consulting with William Edson's
"Railroad Names" and my digital version of the 1935 ORER I purchased
from Mr. Westerfield.

?N?X might be INSX or TNSX? Tank car #844 carrying
"Extract" to Potomac Yard.

Attached is a PNF format image file (INSX-entry.png) of the scan of
two entries which contain the reporting marks and other information
I'm trying to decipher. Any help?


I think we might have a winner with INSX - the July 1933 ORER reports that the International Shoe Company, Wilkes Tannery of North Wilkesboro, N.C. had an 8,000 gallon tank car numbered INSX 844.

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada


Re: Help ID reporting marks for 1934 tank car

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Thank you. Forgot this list differs compared to others on attachments.

What a great list! Such resourceful people. I knew about parr.org, but not nakina.net

Thanks again.

Dave


On Jun 18, 2014, at 11:52 PM, "'Douglas Harding' doug.harding@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Dave the STMFC list does not allow attachments. Your image got stripped. What you are asking about are called reporting marks, each railroad had a unique set which was used to identify their equipment. Two websites to check for reporting marks are: http://www.pwrr.org/rrm/ and http://www.nakina.net/other/report/report.html

 

INSX belonged to the International Shoe Co. 1923-1935 which included the Burke Extract Plant

No TNSX reporting marks are shown to have existed.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Help ID reporting marks for 1934 tank car

Douglas Harding
 

Dave the STMFC list does not allow attachments. Your image got stripped. What you are asking about are called reporting marks, each railroad had a unique set which was used to identify their equipment. Two websites to check for reporting marks are: http://www.pwrr.org/rrm/ and http://www.nakina.net/other/report/report.html

 

INSX belonged to the International Shoe Co. 1923-1935 which included the Burke Extract Plant

No TNSX reporting marks are shown to have existed.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Help ID reporting marks for 1934 tank car

A&Y Dave in MD
 

As I'm transcribing the SR Winston-Salem train conductor's book from
1934, some reporting marks are giving me trouble. This one I have
not been able to resolve after consulting with William Edson's
"Railroad Names" and my digital version of the 1935 ORER I purchased
from Mr. Westerfield.

?N?X might be INSX or TNSX? Tank car #844 carrying
"Extract" to Potomac Yard.

Attached is a PNF format image file (INSX-entry.png) of the scan of
two entries which contain the reporting marks and other information
I'm trying to decipher. Any help?

Dave Bott


Re: C, St P., M & O 20700 approximately 1917. Binghamton NY

Brian Termunde
 

Interesting photo! I have to say, I would have been very nervous if I'd been working up in that Crossing Tower, with that derail to the left of the 20700 directing any wayward Steam Era Freight Cars right at my tower!

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT
 
"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"


Re: [EXTERNAL] Stemwinder Brake Wheels Question (UNCLASSIFIED)

Bill Welch
 

Well sort of, I am more interested in boxcar applications however.

Bill Welch


Modeling Z-braces

Bill Welch
 

I have posted a photo in Photos in the file "VGN replacement side" showing how I modeled the Z-bars using .005 styrene as the base, then .020 x .020 and finally .010 x .030. It is the side for a Virginian Bx10 boxcar.

Bill Welch

 


Re: Sunshine Tractor Load Query

npin53
 

You can still buy Farmall Red paint.  I built a set of the tractors back in about 2000, and when to an implement dealer, and bought a can of the paint.

Aaron Gjermundson


Re: [EXTERNAL] Stemwinder Brake Wheels Question (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

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Bill;

Some of the parts you discuss look pretty much like what I saw on the vast majority of flat cars (PRR and other) I looked at for the PRR flat car and gon books. I like the Tichy wheel for some uses, and the Kadee for more rough usage (although it is hardly "scale"), plus the delicate Westerfield parts for the really weird stuff like the tilting assembly used on some of those USRA 46-foot gons. I love the larger Tichy set for all its little parts you can use for this. These parts actually do look like their prototype. Sunshine and others have made the tiny little ratchet/pawl found on the decks of so many flats. I have those in my resin parts box, since they supplied so many on some of the Sunshine parts "sheets". The "internal" parts on the prototype do not have many 1:87 counterparts, as we generally do not seem them. One of these is the parts associated with the "stemwinder" portion of the system you referred to. These include the bottom support for the stem, the little sleeves and parts that guide the chain, etc. I generally only include them if there is a large access hole in the end sill or something.

Was that what you were asking about?

Elden Gatwood

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] Stemwinder Brake Wheels Question



Thanks to RP CYC, Dan Smith, and Gene Green, there is a good information about powered handbrakes and the brake wheels used with them, however whenever I am working a model using the older style that for simplicity sake I like to call a "stemwinder," I find myself wondering what to use. There are at least a couple that come with Tichy sets and Precision scale offers a few, all of which I think I have. I have no idea however if they actually represent anything or simply someone's concept. Al Westerfield included a very distinctive brake wheel with his PRR kits and I use that of coarse. I am wondering if anyone can share any authoritative information on these type of brake wheels and what is available to us, at least in 1/87?




Bill Welch



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Caveats: NONE


Re: IC gondolas 97250-97999

dssa1051
 

Thanks, Ray

My son lived in Wood Dale up until this past May so we've ridden to Elgin on Metra several times.

Robert Oom


Sunshine Tractor Load Query

Gerry Fitzgerald
 

Hi,

I have a friend who is completing the Sunshine "Tractor Load Red, 1939-1953" kit and he was wondering what airbrush paint others have used to best represent new factory painted tractors on the way to new homes. Any and all (reasonable) suggestions would be most welcome. 

Thanks,

G. Fitzgerald
Charlottesville, Virginia



Re: Stemwinder Brake Wheels Question

Rhbale@...
 

Bill...
 
You may find the information in this handbrake article useful.
 
Richard Bale

 

Thanks to RP CYC, Dan Smith, and Gene Green, there is a good information about powered handbrakes and the brake wheels used with them, however whenever I am working a model using the older style that for simplicity sake I like to call a "stemwinder," I find myself wondering what to use. There are at least a couple that come with Tichy sets and Precision scale offers a few, all of which I think I have. I have no idea however if they actually represent anything or simply someone's concept. Al Westerfield included a very distinctive brake wheel with his PRR kits and I use that of coarse. I am wondering if anyone can share any authoritative information on these type of brake wheels and what is available to us, at least in 1/87?


Bill Welch


Stemwinder Brake Wheels Question

Bill Welch
 

Thanks to RP CYC, Dan Smith, and Gene Green, there is a good information about powered handbrakes and the brake wheels used with them, however whenever I am working a model using the older style that for simplicity sake I like to call a "stemwinder," I find myself wondering what to use. There are at least a couple that come with Tichy sets and Precision scale offers a few, all of which I think I have. I have no idea however if they actually represent anything or simply someone's concept. Al Westerfield included a very distinctive brake wheel with his PRR kits and I use that of coarse. I am wondering if anyone can share any authoritative information on these type of brake wheels and what is available to us, at least in 1/87?


Bill Welch


Re: Help with Sunshine Kit #57.2 IC 176000 series Instructions

Bill Welch
 

Thank you Al!

Bill Welch


Re: Help with Sunshine Kit #57.2 IC 176000 series Instructions

al_brown03
 

Hi Bill,

I have those instructions and will scan them this afternoon.

Best regards,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: National B-1 trucks

tomedill@frontier.com
 

Picked up a couple pair of the new Kadee National B-1 trucks. Thanks to all for clueing me in! Tom Dill


Re: IC gondolas 97250-97999

Ray Breyer
 

I found a photo of IC gondola 97820 on p. 248 of Slow Trains Down South Vol. 1. 
It appears to be an 8 panel gon with flat ends.  Can anyone provide more photos
or information on this series?  The photo was taken in 1954 but my April, 1949
ORER doesn't show this series whereas the January, 1952 ORER does show it.  I'm
assuming it may be a rebuild?
Robert Oom
Kalamazoo, MI
 
Hi Robert,
 
IC 97250-97999 were rebuilds of 1922-built drop-bottom composite gondolas, grabbed at random from the 203700-208199 number groups. The cars were rebuilt with steel sides at McComb in 1943, and originally numbered in the 89000-89999 series. They were rebuilt again at Centralia in 1950, and renumbered into various places in the 97250-97999 series (by this time the IC's car roster was sort of a mess, with small batches of cars and incomplete number series everywhere). Several of the cars were used as bulk mineral container carriers.
 
Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL

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