Re: Steamy Era Freight Car
cptracks
Playboy Club maybe. That's who Vargas drew for Colin Riley
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 1:33:14 PM, "edb8391@... [STMFC]" wrote:
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Re: Steamy Era Freight Car
Not prototypical! Dimensional data is all wrong. EXW is at least 36 if not 42 ;-) John Barry Ah, John! I do think you meant IL for that ? Ed Bommer
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Re: Steamy Era Freight Car
Benjamin Hom
Steve Johnson asked:
"Branchline produced this? For a club? http://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-1-87-ULTRA-RARE-Branchline-Kit-Box-Car-VARGAS-THE-LEGACY-NUDES-SEA-SHELLS-/181441743607?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item2a3ec54af7 Sure. Don't forget Branchline was a custom decorator before they started manufacturing rolling stock kits. $49.95? I need to find my WWII nose art decals. Ben Hom
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Re: Steamy Era Freight Car
John Barry
Not prototypical! Dimensional data is all wrong. EXW is at least 36 if not 42 ;-) John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights 707-490-9696 3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224 Cameron Park, CA 95682
From: "'Steven D Johnson' tenncentralrwy@... [STMFC]" To: STMFC@... Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:00 AM Subject: [STMFC] Steamy Era Freight Car Branchline produced this? For a club? Steve Johnson
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Steamy Era Freight Car
Steven D Johnson
Branchline produced this? For a club?
Steve Johnson
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Re: FW: (erielack) Steamtown Images--June 21, 2014 (C4646 thru C4650)
Schuyler Larrabee
On that SOO Line car . . . there appears to be a crank integral with the stand-off that supports the vertical staff for the brakewheel . . . but there’s no confirming shadow. Is that what I’m seeing, or is it a feature of the board behind there?
Schuyler
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:41 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] FW: (erielack) Steamtown Images--June 21, 2014 (C4646 thru C4650)
Thanks for posting the link to this photo. The next in the sequence (click "Next Image" below photo) has a better shot of SP 85753 and also includes SOO 19764. I hazard that what appears to be lumber in the open doorway of SP 85753 are actually three grain boards. The wood item leaning against the car would then be a fourth, smaller, upper one. That image also shows SP 85753 to have a "what do we have in the junk pile to patch that hole in the end" repair. Eric Lombard Homewood, IL
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:20 PM, 'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-21-14/C4648.jpg
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Re: What happened to the B end of SP 85753?
Admittedly I wasn't there when it happened, but I would hazard a guess that a load shifted and burst through the end of the car. A temporary patch was made along the way. Probably a bad order ticket was made to get the car repaired before reloading.
OR, we can suppose that the SP just liked their cars to have a rustic and well used look. Chuck Peck
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:54 AM, 'gary laakso' vasa0vasa@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: FW: (erielack) Steamtown Images--June 21, 2014 (C4646 thru C4650)
Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
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Box car ends and roofs were the source of many
headaches. SP 85753 is a nice example of the former. It was built by ACF in
1904. The end sill is very similar to early PSC designs. It makes me wonder if
PSC was still supplying materials to ACF at this late date. They certainly
were in late 1901 when P&R class XMg was built.
Eric N.
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What happened to the B end of SP 85753?
gary laakso
Thanks for pointing this picture out Eric and Schuyler but what on earth
happened to the B end of SP 85753? Smuggling irregular cut wood across
state lines?
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
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Re: Tropicana in the 1950s
caboose9792@aol.com <caboose9792@...>
Don i agree the only potental savings would be for juce frozen at florda and kept frozen in nj for the offseason. Yes i did drink caned oj it was better than instant tea that my folks liked to drink.
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mark rickert Sent with Verizon Mobile Email
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: 6/20/2014 7:26 pm To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Tropicana in the 1950s Com'on Bruce, Guess I missed any mention Bill made of the concentrate being shipped frozen. That, however, seem like quite a waste of corporate funds. And what does distance have to do with it? Milk was shipped in GPEX milk tank cars from Wisconsin to Florida in the 1920's, taking far more time than the average milk train to Boston, New York or Chicago took, and changed only a degree or two in temperature over the entire journey. If it could be done with milk it could be done with OJ and was for a number of years WITHOUT refrigeration. I'm surprised Tropicana survived such a waste of corporate funds and wonder what their bottom line would have looked like without such a waste. They apparently took little note of what others had already done. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Steamtown Images
Can someone share a URL for direct access the Steamtown image collection? Probably I missed something but could not find a link on the Steamtown website.
Eric Lombard Homewood, IL
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Re: FW: (erielack) Steamtown Images--June 21, 2014 (C4646 thru C4650)
Thanks for posting the link to this photo. The next in the sequence (click "Next Image" below photo) has a better shot of SP 85753 and also includes SOO 19764. I hazard that what appears to be lumber in the open doorway of SP 85753 are actually three grain boards. The wood item leaning against the car would then be a fourth, smaller, upper one. That image also shows SP 85753 to have a "what do we have in the junk pile to patch that hole in the end" repair. Eric Lombard Homewood, IL![]()
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:20 PM, 'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: FW: (erielack) Steamtown Images--June 21, 2014 (C4646 thru C4650)
paul.doggett2472@...
What a great photo thank you for sharing Paul Doggett UK
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FW: (erielack) Steamtown Images--June 21, 2014 (C4646 thru C4650)
Schuyler Larrabee
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-21-14/C4648.jpg
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Another freight car incidentally caught by the DL&W's photographer - 1918. Schuyler
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From: Richard Brennan Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:17 PM To: EL List Subject: Re: (erielack) Steamtown Images--June 21, 2014 (C4646 thru C4650) At 07:18 AM 6/21/2014, McKnight, Richard wrote: http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-06-21-14The boxcar carrying a lumber load being inspected by the 3 gentlemen with a ladder is: SP 85753 - Harriman Class B-50-1, built by AC&F-Detroit, October 1904 Ref: Southern Pacific Freight Cars - Vol. 4 - Tony Thompson, Signature Press (p102) N.B. In HO... this would be Westerfield #1701... -------------------- Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA -------------------- The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List http://EL-List.railfan.net/ To Unsubscribe: http://Lists.Railfan.net/erielackunsub.html
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Re: CB&Q mill gons
Dave Sarther
Rupert,
Thanks for filling in some of the blanks. Any ideas about the extended height on the inside of the sides of #82253 in the Holbrook photo from Spoor p. 89?
Later, Dave Sarther
-----Original Message----- From: 'Rupert & Maureen' gamlenz@... [STMFC] To: STMFC Sent: Sat, Jun 21, 2014 3:34 pm Subject: [STMFC] CB&Q mill gons Gary
Additional to Dave’s notes, 82000-82199 were built in1951 at Havelock as GM-4 and had the same dimensions as the later GM-4A. 82200-82549 and 82550-83139 were class
GM-4A built at Havelock in 1955 and 1957-8 respectively. 82346-82355 had
wooden flooring for the Atomic Energy Commission instead of a nailable steel
floor. 26 GM-4A’s were rebuilt in 1959-60 with sides and ends 12
inches higher (now 4’ 6”) and removable sectional roofs, and were
reclassed GM-4C. 82200-82239 (except 82219 and 82223) were rebuilt in
1968 with the sides and ends raised 2”.
A further 10 cars 23150-23159 classed GM-4B were built in 1957-8 with 4’ 6” sides, with removable sectional roofs. You could also look for photos of two
other classes of cars to help you – GM-4D 83150-83249 and GM-4F
83250-83299 built in 1959 and 1962 respectively – that were identical to
the GM-4A but with the higher 4’ 6” sides similar to the GM-4C’s.
If you want the construction appearance as
opposed to the paint scheme, a large number of GM-4’s and GM-4A’s
made it to BN, number series 566200-566399, 574600-574639, 556700-556774, 558000-558003,
and 575800-575814.
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ From:
STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, 22 June 2014 7:56 a.m. To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Good Book on Gon. from the 50's Gary,
The closest ORER I have to the year 1958
that shows that car series is a 1964 ORER.
For photos I found one of a well used
CB&Q #82253 by Dan Holbrook taken at Congress Park along
the "Q" triple track main line in Mike Spoor's book CB&Q Color Guide to Freight and
Passenger Equipment on page 89. The
caption reads: " On July 5, 1975 CB&Q #82253 rolls past the passenger
shelter at Congress Park. It was built in 1955 at Havelock as one of 350 Class
GM-4A gondolas (#82200- #82594) with solid ends, an inside length of 52'
6" and a capacity of 1,761 cu ft."
This photo in Spoor's book shows #82253
with an interesting insert but it is not described as one of the group with a
roof from Note O described above. Perhaps someone else from the list has
more info about what is shown inside #82253.
I would also suggest a search for
CB&Q #82253 or any other number from the #82200-83139 series cars on
Google: www.rrpicturearchives.net
or http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2349724
Later, Dave Sarther
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From: GARY garywildu@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> To: stmfc <stmfc@...> Sent: Sat, Jun 21, 2014 9:16 am Subject: [STMFC] Good Book on Gon. from the 50's Look
for a book or photo's on gon's in the 50"s .Namely CB&Q
82200 , NYC 705000, Soo 7501, IBH 6000 etc. series car. I have a list of
about 10 different railroad to try and find. Trying to match car
numbers with photo's so I can find models of these car to add to my 1958 car
fleet. Car are off a dispatcher sheet's from 58 hot box report. Thanks for any
help on where to look for this.
Gary
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The Little Giant newsletter
Brad Andonian
Does anyone have an extra copy of Vol 4 #2,3&4 detailing NYC boxcars? Thanks, Brad Andonian
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CB&Q mill gons
Rupert & Maureen <gamlenz@...>
Gary
82200-82549 and 82550-83139 were class
GM-4A built at Havelock in 1955 and 1957-8 respectively. 82346-82355 had
wooden flooring for the Atomic Energy Commission instead of a nailable steel
floor. 26 GM-4A’s were rebuilt in 1959-60 with sides and ends 12
inches higher (now 4’ 6”) and removable sectional roofs, and were
reclassed GM-4C. 82200-82239 (except 82219 and 82223) were rebuilt in
1968 with the sides and ends raised 2”.
You could also look for photos of two other classes of cars to help you – GM-4D 83150-83249 and GM-4F 83250-83299 built in 1959 and 1962 respectively – that were identical to the GM-4A but with the higher 4’ 6” sides similar to the GM-4C’s.
If you want the construction appearance as opposed to the paint scheme, a large number of GM-4’s and GM-4A’s made it to BN, number series 566200-566399, 574600-574639, 556700-556774, 558000-558003, and 575800-575814.
Rupert Gamlen
From:
STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Gary,
The closest ORER I have to the year 1958 that shows that car series is a 1964 ORER.
For photos I found one of a well used CB&Q #82253 by Dan Holbrook taken at Congress Park along the "Q" triple track main line in Mike Spoor's book CB&Q Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment on page 89. The caption reads: " On July 5, 1975 CB&Q #82253 rolls past the passenger shelter at Congress Park. It was built in 1955 at Havelock as one of 350 Class GM-4A gondolas (#82200- #82594) with solid ends, an inside length of 52' 6" and a capacity of 1,761 cu ft."
This photo in Spoor's book shows #82253 with an interesting insert but it is not described as one of the group with a roof from Note O described above. Perhaps someone else from the list has more info about what is shown inside #82253.
I would also suggest a search for CB&Q #82253 or any other number from the #82200-83139 series cars on Google: www.rrpicturearchives.net or http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2349724
Later, Dave Sarther
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Look
for a book or photo's on gon's in the 50"s .Namely CB&Q
82200 , NYC 705000, Soo 7501, IBH 6000 etc. series car. I have a list of
about 10 different railroad to try and find. Trying to match car
numbers with photo's so I can find models of these car to add to my 1958 car
fleet. Car are off a dispatcher sheet's from 58 hot box report. Thanks for any
help on where to look for this.
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Re: Good Book on Gon. from the 50's
Dave Sarther
Gary,
The closest ORER I have to the year 1958 that shows that car series is a 1964 ORER.
For photos I found one of a well used CB&Q #82253 by Dan Holbrook taken at Congress Park along the "Q" triple track main line in Mike Spoor's book CB&Q Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment on page 89. The caption reads: " On July 5, 1975 CB&Q #82253 rolls past the passenger shelter at Congress Park. It was built in 1955 at Havelock as one of 350 Class GM-4A gondolas (#82200- #82594) with solid ends, an inside length of 52' 6" and a capacity of 1,761 cu ft."
This photo in Spoor's book shows #82253 with an interesting insert but it is not described as one of the group with a roof from Note O described above. Perhaps someone else from the list has more info about what is shown inside #82253.
I would also suggest a search for CB&Q #82253 or any other number from the #82200-83139 series cars on Google: www.rrpicturearchives.net or http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2349724
Later, Dave Sarther
-----Original Message----- From: GARY garywildu@... [STMFC] To: stmfc Sent: Sat, Jun 21, 2014 9:16 am Subject: [STMFC] Good Book on Gon. from the 50's Look for a book or photo's on gon's in the 50"s .Namely CB&Q 82200 , NYC 705000, Soo 7501, IBH 6000 etc. series car. I have a list of about 10 different railroad to try and find. Trying to match car numbers with photo's so I can find models of these car to add to my 1958 car fleet. Car are off a dispatcher sheet's from 58 hot box report. Thanks for any help on where to look for this.
Gary
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Re: IC gondolas 97250-97999
dssa1051
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Re: Storage of ACC
davesnyder59
Ooops, I finally read the last portion of the Wiki article on cyanoacrylate (shelf life). Do not refrigerate opened bottles. Only unopened bottles will have their life expectancy extended. Refrigeration will cause condensation with warming and deteriorate the ACC faster. My apologies. The link is:
Cyanoacrylate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dave Snyder Louisville, Ky.
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