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Admin: The New Wing to the Moderate Jail Opens
I'm pleased to announce this morning that the new wing to the Moderate Jail, named The Demise of RMC, is now operational and has two new members [ sounds more classy than inmates ]. However, I have to admit that the facilities aren't really new. I understand that we acquired some very old structures used by the Germans for Russian POWs back during WW2. For those wishing to continue the terminated thread, don't worry, I'm pretty sure the new members will have cleaned the place up soon.
Mike Brock STMFC Jailer
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Re: Demise of RMC?
Larry Wolohon
I also know several others that have had articles published in RMC & they are certainly in no hurry to pay them. It would seem to me that this would cause authors to submit their articles to some other publication & the number of articles that RMC would receive to put in their magazines would diminish. But what do I know, fact is stranger than fiction. However my favorite magazines are Classic Trains, O Scale Trains & publications from railroad historical societies such as the Great Northern Historical Society & the Union Pacific Historical Society. Larry Wolohon
From: "Era Freight cars, Steam" <STMFC@...> To: "Era Freight cars, Steam" Sent: Friday, August 8, 2014 10:04:16 AM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Demise of RMC? List,
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new YouTube Clip
Bill Lane
Here is my new YouTube clip http://youtu.be/Nkd0LA_pAsA with a massive train on my layout. It is among other things many of the cars I have painted all in 1 large train! Please give it a look.
Thank You,
See my layout progress at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm
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Re: Demise of RMC?
Chuck Cover
List,
I am not privy to the financial dealings of RMC, however, as a past author of a number of articles in the magazine, I can attest to the fact that RMC is slow to unresponsive in paying authors. I have discussed this with several others who have had their articles published, so my experience is not an isolated occurrence. This is not a recent trend, but has been going on for many years. That said, I think RMC provides very interesting articles, many great modeling articles, and is by far my favorite among the general model railroad monthly magazines. I don't even know why I still subscribe to Model Railroader, who just recycles old articles every few years. If RMC goes under, I will miss it. Chuck Cover Santa Fe, NM
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Re: SP F-50-3
Before embarking on the F-50-3 (which is of great interest to SP modelers) Andrew should check with the SPH&TS which now has a manufacturing sideline that has said their plans include a Harriman flat car, in addition to the ex-Red Caboose F-70-7, the F-70-10, the bulkhead versions, a PMT round-nose trailer, etc. Tim O'Connor
At 8/7/2014 05:48 PM Thursday, you wrote:
Westerfield Models is interested in doing the F-50-3 flats. PE had these and would make a welcome addition to the PE freight cars.
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Re: Speedwitch Website updated
Tom,
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I thought so too, but then is it a surprise if we're expecting it? I'm confused. Maybe it's an Illinois Central box car. :-)
Bill Welch wrote:Also there is a surprise appearing at Collinsville.Oh Lord, I hope it's not Denny in his Speedo!
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Re: Demise of RMC?
Tom
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I don't think it is demographics at all -- In the 1960's when I was a teenager, my Dad got Trains, Model Railroader and RMC. And there were a few hundred published books, with some prototype railroads having 15 or even 20 titles! My Dad had maybe 30 or 40 books including Car Builder Cycs. By the 1990's we also had Mainline Modeler, Model Railroading, and Railmodel Journal. And new publishers cranking out new books every week. Usually more than several every week. Heck we're up to issue #28 of the RP Cyclopedia! Now we have modeling ezines from historical societies, more books than ever, and tens of thousands of blogs, web sites, photo sites, archival sites, etc. People have collections of hundreds of books and special publications. I subscribe to RMC and I enjoy the magazine but really, in this hurricane of railroad and modeling information that we live in, will we really feel at all deprived without it? Some months I have no time to read even one article. It's not demographics -- it's information overload! Tim O'Connor
Although I had no idea of failed payments to authors and photographers,
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ADMIN: Re: Demise of RMC?
Chuck Davis writes:
"Looking through the June issue of RMC which finally arrived, there is an informative prototype article on The Great Northern' s Plywood Boxcars by Steffan Ehnbom, Scott Lupia's beautiful modeling of a SCL E7B, as well as Bill's overview of the Valley Forge RPM Meet in March which I think will be of interest to many in the group." OK...not critical, not against the group's rules. "I've heard their story that it was at the printers who was is in the process of moving, but I've also gotten emails that Carsten's failed to pay taxes, make payroll and that it's been for sale." Emails? From who? These comments are exactly why it is against the group's rules to make critical comments about the business practices of a manufacturer and, in this case, RMC produces information. Regardless of whether a member believes it is acceptable to make such comments, it remains AGAINST the group's rules. The issue is NOT open to discussion on the group. The very next such comment will land the author in Moderate Jail! I will also note that STMFC mgt will provide information about RMC and other manufacturers when official, accurate info becomes available. Mike Brock STMFC Owner and Jailer
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Re: Demise of RMC?
I don't think it is necessarily demographics, but the rise of mobile technology. MRH has grown considerably and has a higher readership than RMC. Older demographics may not like the medium as much, but there are readers of some demographic, and steam era content, at MRH. And blogs and websites and lists are likely replacing or picking up the readers dropping RMC. I guess that is a demographic march of a different kind.
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I'm convinced the hobby is changing in many respects, some of which make me uncomfortable or require adjustment in my habits and expectations, but others have made me happy or even more comfortable in the hobby. I don't feel like playing taps, but I do have to change the tune... I'd rather have access to the info that my pad, digital camera, and the internet have given me and lose a printed magazine, than keep the printed magazine and not have had the other changes. Dave
On Aug 7, 2014, at 10:41 PM, "Tom Baker bakert@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: Demise of RMC?
Thomas Baker
Although I had no idea of failed payments to authors and photographers, I have wondered what is happening at RMC. First we lose Mainline Modeler and now maybe RMC. I haven't figured out what exactly causes the muted draw Model Railroader has for me, but its draw is definitely muted. The series of articles by Ted Culotta and Clark Probst were really a big draw for me, and I don't even model in HO, but in S. I saw the material on S in the June issue a bit in the way of filler but still helpful. I hope we do not lose RMC, but I cannot halt the forward and inexorable march of demographics.
Tom Baker
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Demise of RMC?
Layout Tour
Looking through the June issue of RMC which finally arrived, there is an informative prototype article on The Great Northern’ s Plywood Boxcars by Steffan Ehnbom, Scott Lupia’s beautiful modeling of a SCL E7B, as well as Bill’s overview of the Valley Forge RPM Meet in March which I think will be of interest to many in the group.
I’ve heard their story that it was at the printers who was is in the process of moving, but I’ve also gotten emails that Carsten’s failed to pay taxes, make payroll and that it’s been for sale. What I do know is that I haven’t even received a token payment for my last 3 articles in RMC or for the cover photo of the August 2013 RMC, and I know I’m not alone in that category. Henry has refused to even return my phone calls or answer my emails for over a year.
Unfortunately if RMC fails I think the loss will be particularly felt by this group. The dedicated staff has consistently provided detailed articles on almost every industry associated with railroads during the steam era, as well as in-depth construction articles by talented authors on every type of rolling stock which have been an inspiration for me. I hope to see them continue, but it’s certainly not looking very promising.
Chuck Davis Norfolk VA
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Re: Speedwitch Website updated
Marty Ross
Or, the eminent book will have a yet to be born imminent author. Life is always T.B.A.
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 6:54
PM, "Scott Pitzer scottp459@... [STMFC]" wrote: I'm sure the imminent book has an eminent author. Scott Pitzer -------- Original message -------- Subject: Re: [STMFC] Speedwitch Website updated From: "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" To: STMFC@... CC: Re: [STMFC] Speedwitch Website updated "Indeed I do or did. Bill Welch
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Re: "400" name [was Hoarders]
Marty Ross
OK, I'm not contesting that the Soo didn't serve Waukesha and, along with the C&NW, had a delightful collection of freight service to the city. I'm sure
that at one point, there were even truss rod cars enroute. I was commenting on a reference to "Club 400" in another post and the website of that establishment stated it was named after a Soo train called the "400." This is from their website: "The club itself is named after a train. Soo Line Locomotive #400 used to come through town at about 4:00PM each day." The original C&NW Engine #400 was a 4-4-2. At the time the club opened (1948), the "Twin Cities "400" was most likely pulled by a 4-6-2 Pacific. The moniker of "Soo Line" was initiated in 1961 with the merger of several railroads, and despite the statement on
the Club 400 website, it has no reference to the Soo. The building in which the Club 400 is located was built in 1894 as the Northwestern Hotel at 332 Williams St. The C&NW depot had been constructed a few years earlier, across the street at 319 Williams
St. The depot also still
exists as a restaurant and at one time offered "train car dining." (Google Earth will give you excellent street views.) After a number of different uses for the Northwestern Hotel building, it was opened as Club 400 in 1948 and retains that name to this date. There is a historical marker referencing the relation to the C&NW 400 at the location of the club. However, it more about the club history and the fact that the performance
at the inauguration was by Les Paul and Mary Ford. Les Paul is a Waukesha native and it was his father who opened the Club 400. Cheers, Marty
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Re: Speedwitch Website updated
Scott Pitzer
I'm sure the imminent book has an eminent author.
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-------- Original message -------- Subject: Re: [STMFC] Speedwitch Website updated From: "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> To: STMFC@... CC: Re: [STMFC] Speedwitch Website updated "Indeed I do or did. Bill Welch
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Re: Pere Marquette decals
elwefel
O Scale PM decals, including the correct ones for the metal cabooses are available from Fritz Milhaupt.
You might want to consider joining the PM Historical Society and the Pere Marquette Yahoo discussion group. They can both can be very useful.
Elly Wefel Retired Rail and O Scale Modeler of the Pere Marquette Railway
Michigan Prototype Decals by Fritz Milhaupt
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SP F-50-3
Rio Grande Ltd <rgmodels@...>
Westerfield Models is interested in doing the F-50-3 flats. PE had these and would make a welcome addition to the PE freight cars.
I suggested he reference the Thompson freight car book Vol 3. If any of you are interested you might want to contact Andrew at Westerfieldmodels@... eric
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Re: Speedwitch Website updated
Bill Welch
"Indeed I do or did.
Bill Welch
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Re: Pere Marquette decals
S. Busch
Brad,
You might want to try Fritz Milhaupt at:
He makes very nice O scale PM caboose decals, for both steel as well as
wood cars.
Regards,
Steve Busch
Duncan, SC
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Re: Speedwitch Website updated
Tom Madden
Bill Welch wrote: > Also there is a surprise appearing at Collinsville. Oh Lord, I hope it's not Denny in his Speedo! Otherwise, it's probably the pilot model of a new steam era freight car kit from a new manufacturer. Tom Madden
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Re: Pere Marquette decals
Looks like a cylindrical auto box to me. LOL!
Thanks! -- Brian Ehni From: STMFC List <STMFC@...> Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@...> Date: Thursday, August 7, 2014 at 3:33 PM To: STMFC List <STMFC@...> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Pere Marquette decals That's good to know! But it seems they have a few kinks in the system... http://www.ozarkminiatures.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=12770 At 8/7/2014 04:05 PM Thursday, you wrote: Mel Perry wrote:reproducing the line."
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