Date   
Dowell vs Dow Chemical?

Tim O'Connor
 

Two acid tank cars, consecutively numbered, one lettered for
Dow Chemical in Midland Michigan and the other for Dowell?? Was
this the origin of the Dow name or just a weird coincidence?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/15541180788/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/15107226713/

I can't make out the gallonage on either car. Anyone know?

Tim O'Connor

Re: Video clip

Clark Propst
 

I would recommend him trimming them off as well as the ones on my car if I knew what you were talking about  ;  ))
 
Guess I need to look closely at my car?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

Re: TrainLife...

eshoben@...
 

There are signs of life at Train Life.  I got on this evening and was able to view Richard Hendrickson's article on dry transfer application.  However, my subsequent perusal of various articles led me to the conclusion that only the first X pages (where X is about 20, but varies) and the last X pages have the graphic content.  the middle of each issue had only "page text" (useless) available.

However, perhaps there is hope?

Regards,

Ed Shoben

Identity of very large FD built February 1941

spsalso
 

Over on the Kalmbach forum, there's discussion about the identity of a car in a photograph:



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/907/opML58.jpg



I get the car having 4 6-wheel Buckeye trucks.  Capacity is 500,000 pounds.  And build date is February 1941.


Does anyone know what the reporting marks might be?  I can't find anything anywhere near the numbers above.


The big thingy is JUMBO.  It was designed to contain a non-critical detonation of a plutonium bomb.  And it weighed a lot.


Here is perhaps a better copy of the photo:




TR-017





Ed


Edward Sutorik

Re: Georgia rr usra box car color

benjamin
 

I purchased a Speedwitch Media Georgia Railroad kit in the last six months direct from them.  It does come with the curved roof and black decals, but most of the pictures in his information indicate the welded or flat roof after rebuild.  Is there any photos available with the curved roof and the silver/black paint scheme that I could view on line to get a valid car number and the correct paint scheme?  Some of Teds pictures with the silver have the area under the side ladders painted black but again no curved roof.

Thanks:

Ben Heinley Denver Colorado

Prototype Rails '15 Cocoa Beach Update

Scott Dam
 

Hi, all
Sorry for the multiple posts. I’m also sending directly to our email list. If you don’t get your own copy from the email list then I don’t have your current email address.
 
Please note the updated Clinician and Vendor lists. Also, the Friends of the Freight Car luncheon will be Saturday at the hotel. We will need a count for those attending so please let us know by Friday, January 9th. And, don’t forget to reserve your space at the Saturday evening dinner at Florida’s Fresh Grill. We went there last year and the food was great.
 
Here is the updated flyer. We will send an update again in about one month.  If you haven’t made your reservations and sent in your check for registration, now would be a good time. Thanks.
 

PROTOTYPE RAILS 2015

COCOA BEACH, FL, JAN 8-10, 2015

 

An NMRA Sanctioned Event

A Prototype Modeling Meet Featuring Modular Layouts in O, HO and N Scale

1000 Models on Display—Please Bring Models!

 

Hotel

COCOA BEACH HILTON OCEANFRONT

1550 N. Atlantic Ave. [Highway A1A], COCOA BEACH, FL.

Phone: 800-526-2609 or 321-799-0003.

Refer to Prototype Rails or Code NMR15 for $100 Room Rate.

(Parking and internet access complementary)

 

Registration

Early registration $35, Please make your check payable to "Prototype Rails" and send to:

Marty Megregian 480 Gails Way Merritt Island, FL 32953.

                                                                                                           

REGISTER EARLY: The cutoff date for early registration is January 1, 2015.

Registration received after that date is $45.

 

Over 80 Clinics from the Following Confirmed Clinicians

Frank Angstead, Rick Bell, Mike Boland, Al Brown, Jack Burgess, Andy Carlson, Jeff Cauthen, Scott Dam,

Bill Darnaby, Chuck Davis, George Eichelberger, Stephen Funaro, Andy Harman, Jared Harper, Ray Hazen,

Roger Hinman, Steve Holding, Tony Koester, Gail & Greg Komar, Jim Langston III, Tom Madden,

Greg Martin, Marty McGuirk, Lance Mindheim, Ed Murphy, Jim Murrie, Joe Oates, Steve Orth,

Armand Premo, Joel & Stephen Priest, Bill Schaumburg, Bruce Smith, Mont Switzer, Chip Syme,

Gilbert Thomas, Jr., Tony Thompson, Bill Welch, Fenton Wells, John Wilkes, Tom Wilson.

 

Organizations, Manufacturers & Dealers

ACL/SAL Historical Society, Atlas Models, Bob's Photos, Bob the Train Guy, Broadway Limited Imports (UP 4-12-2 debut),

DCC Install Sales, 5th Avenue Shops, Funaro & Camerlengo, Intermountain, Jay Williams Photos,

John C. La Rue Photos, Mainline Photos, Motrak, Palace Car Co., Stan Rydarowicz, Rapido,

Southern Car & Foundry, SRHA, Trolleys N' Dollies.

 

The meet begins on Thursday, January 8th, 8 PM with video, slide shows and clinics.

Spouses/Guests not attending presentations do not have to pay registration.  Please provide name with your registration.  There will be a Friends of the Freight Car lunch at noon on Saturday at the hotel for $13 inclusive.  Please let us know if you plan to attend.  Pay the hotel at the event.  We are planning a dinner at Florida’s Fresh Grill on Saturday evening.  Please email scott.dam@... with your commitment to attend and your meal choice (Fish or Steak for $32 or Chicken for $28).  You may also mail in a confirmation with a check to Marty Megregian or pay at the registration desk upon arrival.  Cutoff for dinner reservations and payment is NOON, Friday, Jan.9, 2015.  Sign up early; restaurant space is limited.  

Meet ends with raffles and door prizes, 11 pm Saturday, Jan. 10th.

 

For More Information

including photos of the renovated hotel (now completed), go to:

http://www.prototyperails.com

Contact Mike Brock at: brockm@... or 321-453-4140

 

Please provide your name for your badge and guest name for a guest badge.  If you would like to provide your contact information to be included on our mailing/e-mail list and for any follow up, please include the additional information with your registration payment:

 

Name (for YOUR badge); address; phone number; e-mail; Spouse or Guest name (if attending)

 

20141121

 
Scott Dam
Assistant Registrar
PR15 Committee
NV: 702-538-8944

Re: Milwaukee road HO freight cars

brianleppert@att.net
 

Bill,

The TMW-113/213 Barber S2 truck is correct for MILW 50' SHORT ribbed cars.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works

Rib Side Car Kits

Bill Welch
 

Andy's post of RBC kits reminded me that I wanted to buy the steel Grain Door in that line but Mr. RBC did not have any with him on Friday and then was absent on Saturday. I tried to email him and it bounced back. This door is not listed on his site BTW. Anyway, I am wondering if anyone knows how to contact RBC? I am planning to use the door on a IM kit.


Bill Welch

Re: Milwaukee road HO freight cars

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

ANDY:

Are these also the correct trucks for the 50' ribside cars?

Bill Pardie


On Nov 21, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Andy Carlson midcentury@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Hello-
I have the following HO Milwaukee road box cars. All are 40' rib side box cars.

Rib Side Models of Bensenville IL. All are factory painted and lettered kits. These cars come with the milwaukee "economy" double raised panel roof, unless excepted. No trucks are included.
2#4161 long ribs 6' door route of the Hiawatha
1#4163 long ribs large billboard logo
2#4221 short rib dd Route of the Hiawtha , CMStP&P logo
2#4223 short rib dd Billboard "The Milwaukee Rd"
2#4224 short rib dd 'The Milwaukee Rd" "route of the Hiawatha"
6#4263 SR ph1 lg billboard lettering "The Milwaukee Rd"
1#4264 SR ph1 Large logo only
5#4261 SR ph1 Route of the Hiawatha w// CMStP&P logo
4#4361 SR 4/4 ends ph2 Rt of Hiaw
2#4363 SR ph2 large Milwaukee Rd logo
5#4461 SR plain 4/4 ends ph3 rt of hiaw
2#4463 ph3 lg Milwaukee Rd logo
1#4464
5#4561 SR plain 4/4 ends diagonal panel roof ph4 rt of hiaw
1#4563 ph 4 Dp roof lg Milwaukee rd logo
1#4564 ph4 DP roof lg logo only

All kits above are priced at $14/each.

Intermountain assembled Milwaukee Route of the Hiawatha short rib boxcars
#48501-09 with pre-war Youngstown 6' door
#48503-05 with 7 panel Superior 6' door
Intermountain Late scheme with billboard "Milwaukee Rd" and rect herald
#48502-09 with pre-war Youngstown 6' door MILW 22659

These above RTR cars are priced at $22/each.

I have the correct trucks for these Milwaukee cars, the Tahoe Model works # 013, the Barber S2 w/ spring planks, available for $4.50/pair, less wheels. Shipping is $3.85 and up.
Purchase 5 or more cars, and deduct $1/each.
I accept checks and money orders. For a small fee, I accept PayPal. Please contact me OFF-LIST at <midcentury@...>
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



Tangent 8k acid tank car

Tim O'Connor
 


In all the posts about the new Tangent tank car, I don't think anyone
has mentioned ...

It has ETCHED METAL WALKWAYS on the sides, ends and top platform!! This
is a first for a full frame plastic tank car model in HO! I didn't even
notice this when I looked at the pictures on the web site.

So when I opened my tank car box today I was elated to see this!! WOW!!
And you know what? I believe this frame is actually stiffer and sturdier
than the plastic frames on other tank car models.

David Lehlbach if you're listening, PLEASE make your 8k frame parts available
when you can. This is just awesome!!! I have been wanting tank cars with real
see-through etched walkways for years. I hope this sets a new standard.

Tim O'Connor

Re: Georgia rr usra box car color

Bruce Smith
 

Brad,

No problems!  I forgot to add that Ted Culotta (Speedwitch) has done a round roof kit for these cars, although I do not know if that remains available.  In addition, one of the discussions centered on the fact that these cars are fairly distinctive and that, on average, you need at least one distinctive car per mainline train <G>.  A number of us have built the Tichy kits and have modified the Tichy roof by shaving off the seams and scribing or using decals for the weld joints.  The Tichy kit also needs rivets on the sides of the ends, now easily done with Archer rivets.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
Bruce et al,

I appreciate your helpful and quick response to my inquiry.    I had not noticed many female commenters---although it would be welcome to hear from some!    I must admit I am not handy with Yahoo's search of the group archives as I find their present set up cumbersome and unwieldy [although I reside in the tech hot bed of the NW--I alas, am challenged in that department].    Instead I must impose on able minded folks like yourself to allay my concerns and queries.    My most sincere apologies if this has been addressed.

Until I post again.....   Happy Thanksgiving!
Brad Andonian
Seattle


On Friday, November 21, 2014 7:33 AM, "'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


Brad, Folks,

First, I’ll make my occasional plea for a gender neutral salutation. While the vast majority of folks on this list, such as myself, suffer from testosterone poisoning, not everyone in modeling railroading is male, and it seems counter productive to our desires to grow the hobby to assume that everyone is,

As for the IM car… These cars have been discussed MANY times on this list. The paint scheme is basically correct.  It was applied when these cars were rebuilt in the 1930s and lasted into the 1950s.  These are assembled Tichy models and the roof is not correct.  They either had a radial roof or a home built welded roof.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith            
Auburn, AL
"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:





Fellas,

Can anyone clarify the time period these were painted silver and black? Intermountain shows a model with black ends and doors. Is this correct?

Many thanks,
Brad Andonian








Photo of WM 40 ft double door boxcar in speed lettering

O Fenton Wells
 

I am doing a model for a friend and want to decal it properly. I need a photo of a WM 40 ft. double door car in the speed lettering.   I believe these were the 30xxx and 31xxx series cars but I am not up on WM freight cars. If anyone has a photo I could use that shows this scheme I would love to use it for this purpose.  You can send it off group to me at; <srrfan1401@...>  Thanking you in advance for any help on this.

Fenton Wells

Re: Alco Models Greenville Wellhole Flat

Charles Hladik
 

 
Bob,
    Try PSC angle cocks and glad hands and a piece of insulation off from a micro bulb. Flexible and doesn't look bad.
Chuck Hladik

In a message dated 11/21/2014 3:29:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, STMFC@... writes:
 

Hi Guys!

 I have the above model which I'd like to do as a Pennsy F33 flat but I need to replace the angle cocks and air hoses. Can someone suggest suitable brass replacements? TIA

Bob Weston

Alco Models Greenville Wellhole Flat

Bob Weston
 

Hi Guys!

 I have the above model which I'd like to do as a Pennsy F33 flat but I need to replace the angle cocks and air hoses. Can someone suggest suitable brass replacements? TIA

Bob Weston

Milwaukee road HO freight cars

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-
I have the following HO Milwaukee road box cars. All are 40' rib side box cars.

Rib Side Models of Bensenville IL. All are factory painted and lettered kits. These cars come with the milwaukee "economy" double raised panel roof, unless excepted. No trucks are included.
2#4161 long ribs 6' door route of the Hiawatha
1#4163 long ribs large billboard logo
2#4221 short rib dd Route of the Hiawtha , CMStP&P logo
2#4223 short rib dd Billboard "The Milwaukee Rd"
2#4224 short rib dd 'The Milwaukee Rd" "route of the Hiawatha"
6#4263 SR ph1 lg billboard lettering "The Milwaukee Rd"
1#4264 SR ph1 Large logo only
5#4261 SR ph1 Route of the Hiawatha w// CMStP&P logo
4#4361 SR 4/4 ends ph2 Rt of Hiaw
2#4363 SR ph2 large Milwaukee Rd logo
5#4461 SR plain 4/4 ends ph3 rt of hiaw
2#4463 ph3 lg Milwaukee Rd logo
1#4464
5#4561 SR plain 4/4 ends diagonal panel roof ph4 rt of hiaw
1#4563 ph 4 Dp roof lg Milwaukee rd logo
1#4564 ph4 DP roof lg logo only

All kits above are priced at $14/each.

Intermountain assembled Milwaukee Route of the Hiawatha short rib boxcars
#48501-09 with pre-war Youngstown 6' door
#48503-05 with 7 panel Superior 6' door
Intermountain Late scheme with billboard "Milwaukee Rd" and rect herald
#48502-09 with pre-war Youngstown 6' door MILW 22659

These above RTR cars are priced at $22/each.

I have the correct trucks for these Milwaukee cars, the Tahoe Model works # 013, the Barber S2 w/ spring planks, available for $4.50/pair, less wheels. Shipping is $3.85 and up.
Purchase 5 or more cars, and deduct $1/each.
I accept checks and money orders. For a small fee, I accept PayPal. Please contact me OFF-LIST at
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

Re: New Modeler V7#3

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Thanks for the notice!

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

From: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Date: Friday, November 21, 2014 at 12:05 PM
To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] New Modeler V7#3

New Modeler V7#3

ron christensen
 

A new Modeler V7 #3 is on line

http://www.cnwhs.org/modeling.htm


Remaking the Walthers Doodlebug (AKA C&NW 9905) 

By Joel Goldberg, MMR

Building a 1970s Grain Boxcar Fleet – Part 4

By Dennis Eggert

Grain Doors 

By Dan Holbrook

Detailing a M&StL RS-1 and Adding Sound 

By Clark Propst

Some Lettering Variations On Chicago Great Western Steam

Locomotives - Part 3  By David R Webb MD


Ron Christensen


Re: Georgia rr usra box car color

Brad Andonian
 

Bruce et al,

I appreciate your helpful and quick response to my inquiry.    I had not noticed many female commenters---although it would be welcome to hear from some!    I must admit I am not handy with Yahoo's search of the group archives as I find their present set up cumbersome and unwieldy [although I reside in the tech hot bed of the NW--I alas, am challenged in that department].    Instead I must impose on able minded folks like yourself to allay my concerns and queries.    My most sincere apologies if this has been addressed.

Until I post again.....   Happy Thanksgiving!
Brad Andonian
Seattle


On Friday, November 21, 2014 7:33 AM, "'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Brad, Folks,

First, I’ll make my occasional plea for a gender neutral salutation. While the vast majority of folks on this list, such as myself, suffer from testosterone poisoning, not everyone in modeling railroading is male, and it seems counter productive to our desires to grow the hobby to assume that everyone is,

As for the IM car… These cars have been discussed MANY times on this list. The paint scheme is basically correct.  It was applied when these cars were rebuilt in the 1930s and lasted into the 1950s.  These are assembled Tichy models and the roof is not correct.  They either had a radial roof or a home built welded roof.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith            
Auburn, AL
"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:





Fellas,

Can anyone clarify the time period these were painted silver and black? Intermountain shows a model with black ends and doors. Is this correct?

Many thanks,
Brad Andonian





Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Video clip (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Bill;

?

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:46 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] Re: Video clip



Thank you for posting this Clark, wonderful clip however whenever I see one of those Atlas Insulated tank cars with that strip of rivets hanging from the edge of the running board I cry since the designer did not know it was part of the center sill tank anchor. Please suggest to your friend he trim it off.

Bill Welch



Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Re: Video clip

Bill Welch
 

Thank you for posting this Clark, wonderful clip however whenever I see one of those Atlas Insulated tank cars with that strip of rivets hanging from the edge of the running board I cry since the designer did not know it was part of the center sill tank anchor. Please suggest to your friend he trim it off.

Bill Welch