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Re: foreign road stock cars

ed_mines
 

I would think most livestock would be slaughtered before being shipped east.  Apparently not.


Ed


Allen Flush Car Door

Rhbale@...
 

I'm searching for information, including an image, of an Allen Flush Door as applied to boxcars in the early 1900s.
 
Thanks,
 
Richard Bale


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

David
 

There are a few more shots showing that NS flat in the background.

Is this one of those flat-end URTX steel reefers?

A Great Image

 



David Thompson


Re: Digest Number 9193

Brian Termunde
 



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Actually that's an early Salt Lake Utah Transit Authority attempt at heavy rail transit! Sending the buses via freight railroads between Ogden, Salt Lake City and Provo. It actually proved to be faster then the current Front Runner service! And more dependable too! ; )

However, I probably should wait until April 1st, 2015 to send this...

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT
 
"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"



Some (early) Steam Era freight cars

Brian Termunde
 

These photos were posted on the Los Angeles Junction Railway list by Bob Chaparro and I hoped that they might be of some interest to this group... 

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT
 
"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"


-----Original Message-----
From: thecitrusbelt@... [LAJRy]
To: LAJRy
Sent: Mon, Dec 22, 2014 12:23 am
Subject: [LAJRy] Illinois Pacific Glass Company

 
Was Illinois Pacific Glass Company served by the LAJ?  
 
It appears this is not an earlier name for the Owens-Illinois Glass Company, which was served by the LAJ. 

The earliest Kerr Jars were made for Kerr by Illinois Pacific Glass Company.
 
These two photos, dated 1927 and circa 1930, show the Pacific Glass Company plant located somewhere in Los Angeles.
 
 
 
 
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: CN&L 2500 series s/s boxcar width

Bill Welch
 

I have a photo of 2530 in my collection so it must have been a larger group although I have not checked my ORER. I would argue that the cars are more derivative of the CN cars built circa 1916 from which the USRA 50-ton car was arguably derived.  CN&L cars were 6-inches shorter than USRA cars.

Bill Welch


Re: CN&L 2500 series s/s boxcar width

Eric Lombard
 

Ben, if no one can come up with an equipment diagram or drawing with definitive dimensions you might consider the following.

ACL 49700-50199, and C&WC 8596-8695, class O-16, were built by TCI in 1925  (a known stencil date of 6-1925) as was CN&L 2500-2524 (a known stencil date of 7-1925). Pho,tos of all these cars show the same construction detail. On single-sheathed cars, the outer surface of the wood sheathing is in the same plane as the outer surface of the side sill. See:
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/c-n-and-l-columbia-newberry-and-laurens-box-car-2501;rad

The O-16 cars were rebuilt with steel sheathing to classes O-16-A through F. Equipment diagrams for these rebuilt cars indicate a dimension of 8'-8 1/2" over the (presumably original) side sills.

If one is comfortable with the logic train here then the base plane width of the CN&L cars is 8'-8 1/2" to which, on each side, the posts and braces, door, ladders, and grabs would be added.

Eric L
Homewood, IL

Photos

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:35 AM, benjaminscanlon@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Hi all

I think the series ran from 2500-2524. I am trying to establish the overall width of these cars which were similar in some respects to USRA s/s cars, but had rather different pattern bracing and 7/8 Murphy ends. Thanks to Rob K, we now have some appropriate ends in TT.

Regards

Ben Scanlon
London



CN&L 2500 series s/s boxcar width

Benjamin Scanlon
 

Hi all

I think the series ran from 2500-2524. I am trying to establish the overall width of these cars which were similar in some respects to USRA s/s cars, but had rather different pattern bracing and 7/8 Murphy ends. Thanks to Rob K, we now have some appropriate ends in TT.

Regards

Ben Scanlon
London


reefer vs reefer

Tim O'Connor
 


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

Tim O'Connor
 

And a whole freight train, model layout sized, in one shot! :-)
http://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1949-Apr-Salt-Lake-City/i-bPNDV9T/X3

Tim O'

That web site can be addicting -- and it's fun to look for interesting stuff
that is not the main subject of the photo.

For example, a Norfolk Southern flat car loaded with a municipal electric bus!!
http://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1949-Apr-Salt-Lake-City/i-xjKmGxp/X3

Tim O'Connor


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

Tim O'Connor
 

Gary,

That web site can be addicting -- and it's fun to look for interesting stuff
that is not the main subject of the photo.

For example, a Norfolk Southern flat car loaded with a municipal electric bus!!
http://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1949-Apr-Salt-Lake-City/i-xjKmGxp/X3

Tim O'Connor







Re: Red Caboose flat car weights

Brian Carlson
 

Better yet is small lead shot. (Don't recall the size) I was able to weight a car to run empty reliably. I left off the brake components but they were hidden by the sidesill anyway. 
Brian Carlson. 


On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:20 PM, O Fenton Wells srrfan1401@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

You can make your own from sheet lead and cut it to fit with tin snips.  I believe the industrial wholesalers sell it in sheets.  McMaster Carr for instance or roofing supply wholesalers.  I use some roofing vent material that has lasted for quite a while.
Fenton Wells

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:37 PM, robertdeis@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Any one have some extra Red Caboose 40' steel weights that originally came with the kits that are not needed? I am in need of six(6).  If so please contact me. Contact information   driver10@...    Thank you.

Robert Deis

driver10@...




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Fenton Wells
5 Newberry Lane
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-1144
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Re: Red Caboose flat car weights

O Fenton Wells
 

You can make your own from sheet lead and cut it to fit with tin snips.  I believe the industrial wholesalers sell it in sheets.  McMaster Carr for instance or roofing supply wholesalers.  I use some roofing vent material that has lasted for quite a while.
Fenton Wells

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:37 PM, robertdeis@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Any one have some extra Red Caboose 40' steel weights that originally came with the kits that are not needed? I am in need of six(6).  If so please contact me. Contact information   driver10@...    Thank you.

Robert Deis

driver10@...




--
Fenton Wells
5 Newberry Lane
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-1144
srrfan1401@...


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

Armand Premo
 


Why not add an ERDX too? Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 5:56 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

 

That MDT reefer is long overdue from somebody, anybody!!!!

Bill Welch


Re: Seasons greetings

rob.mclear3@...
 

Thanks Al but down here we call it the Summer Solstice, in any case a Happy Christmas and New Year to everyone on the list.

Rob McLear
Australia.


Red Caboose flat car weights

Robert Deis
 

Any one have some extra Red Caboose 40' steel weights that originally came with the kits that are not needed? I am in need of six(6).  If so please contact me. Contact information   driver10@...    Thank you.

Robert Deis

driver10@...


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

Tim Mulina BHI <bhipubs@...>
 

Gary,

 

On the gondola loads, I am almost 100% sure those are sugar beets.

 

For more info on them see Don’s page here:

 

http://utahrails.net/industries/sugar.php

 

and here for photos of them:

http://web2.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/sugarbeets.html

 

https://www.americansugarbeet.org/who-we-are/what-is-a-sugarbeet.html

 

regards,

 

 

Tim Mulina

BHI Publications

http://www.quickpicbooks.com/

 

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 4:00 PM
To: stmfc
Subject: [STMFC] car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

 

 

Some interesting car ends:

 

 

Gondola loads, any idea what is being shipped?

 

 


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

Bill Welch
 

That MDT reefer is long overdue from somebody, anybody!!!!

Bill Welch


car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

gary laakso
 


Re: Seasons greetings

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Nice sentiment Al. 
A Happy Christmas and New Year to one and all.

Paul Doggett UK

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"'Al and Patricia Westerfield' westerfieldalfred@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

To all prototype modelers everywhere:  HAPPY WINTER SOLSTICE! – Al Westerfield
 

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