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Re: CN&L 2500 series s/s boxcar width

Bill Welch
 

I have a photo of 2530 in my collection so it must have been a larger group although I have not checked my ORER. I would argue that the cars are more derivative of the CN cars built circa 1916 from which the USRA 50-ton car was arguably derived.  CN&L cars were 6-inches shorter than USRA cars.

Bill Welch


Re: CN&L 2500 series s/s boxcar width

Eric Lombard
 

Ben, if no one can come up with an equipment diagram or drawing with definitive dimensions you might consider the following.

ACL 49700-50199, and C&WC 8596-8695, class O-16, were built by TCI in 1925  (a known stencil date of 6-1925) as was CN&L 2500-2524 (a known stencil date of 7-1925). Pho,tos of all these cars show the same construction detail. On single-sheathed cars, the outer surface of the wood sheathing is in the same plane as the outer surface of the side sill. See:
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/c-n-and-l-columbia-newberry-and-laurens-box-car-2501;rad

The O-16 cars were rebuilt with steel sheathing to classes O-16-A through F. Equipment diagrams for these rebuilt cars indicate a dimension of 8'-8 1/2" over the (presumably original) side sills.

If one is comfortable with the logic train here then the base plane width of the CN&L cars is 8'-8 1/2" to which, on each side, the posts and braces, door, ladders, and grabs would be added.

Eric L
Homewood, IL

Photos

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:35 AM, benjaminscanlon@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Hi all

I think the series ran from 2500-2524. I am trying to establish the overall width of these cars which were similar in some respects to USRA s/s cars, but had rather different pattern bracing and 7/8 Murphy ends. Thanks to Rob K, we now have some appropriate ends in TT.

Regards

Ben Scanlon
London



CN&L 2500 series s/s boxcar width

Benjamin Scanlon
 

Hi all

I think the series ran from 2500-2524. I am trying to establish the overall width of these cars which were similar in some respects to USRA s/s cars, but had rather different pattern bracing and 7/8 Murphy ends. Thanks to Rob K, we now have some appropriate ends in TT.

Regards

Ben Scanlon
London


reefer vs reefer

Tim O'Connor
 


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

Tim O'Connor
 

And a whole freight train, model layout sized, in one shot! :-)
http://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1949-Apr-Salt-Lake-City/i-bPNDV9T/X3

Tim O'

That web site can be addicting -- and it's fun to look for interesting stuff
that is not the main subject of the photo.

For example, a Norfolk Southern flat car loaded with a municipal electric bus!!
http://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1949-Apr-Salt-Lake-City/i-xjKmGxp/X3

Tim O'Connor


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

Tim O'Connor
 

Gary,

That web site can be addicting -- and it's fun to look for interesting stuff
that is not the main subject of the photo.

For example, a Norfolk Southern flat car loaded with a municipal electric bus!!
http://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1949-Apr-Salt-Lake-City/i-xjKmGxp/X3

Tim O'Connor







Re: Red Caboose flat car weights

Brian Carlson
 

Better yet is small lead shot. (Don't recall the size) I was able to weight a car to run empty reliably. I left off the brake components but they were hidden by the sidesill anyway. 
Brian Carlson. 


On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:20 PM, O Fenton Wells srrfan1401@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

You can make your own from sheet lead and cut it to fit with tin snips.  I believe the industrial wholesalers sell it in sheets.  McMaster Carr for instance or roofing supply wholesalers.  I use some roofing vent material that has lasted for quite a while.
Fenton Wells

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:37 PM, robertdeis@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Any one have some extra Red Caboose 40' steel weights that originally came with the kits that are not needed? I am in need of six(6).  If so please contact me. Contact information   driver10@...    Thank you.

Robert Deis

driver10@...




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Re: Red Caboose flat car weights

O Fenton Wells
 

You can make your own from sheet lead and cut it to fit with tin snips.  I believe the industrial wholesalers sell it in sheets.  McMaster Carr for instance or roofing supply wholesalers.  I use some roofing vent material that has lasted for quite a while.
Fenton Wells

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:37 PM, robertdeis@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Any one have some extra Red Caboose 40' steel weights that originally came with the kits that are not needed? I am in need of six(6).  If so please contact me. Contact information   driver10@...    Thank you.

Robert Deis

driver10@...




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Fenton Wells
5 Newberry Lane
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-1144
srrfan1401@...


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

Armand Premo
 


Why not add an ERDX too? Armand Premo

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Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 5:56 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

 

That MDT reefer is long overdue from somebody, anybody!!!!

Bill Welch


Re: Seasons greetings

rob.mclear3@...
 

Thanks Al but down here we call it the Summer Solstice, in any case a Happy Christmas and New Year to everyone on the list.

Rob McLear
Australia.


Red Caboose flat car weights

Robert Deis
 

Any one have some extra Red Caboose 40' steel weights that originally came with the kits that are not needed? I am in need of six(6).  If so please contact me. Contact information   driver10@...    Thank you.

Robert Deis

driver10@...


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

Tim Mulina BHI <bhipubs@...>
 

Gary,

 

On the gondola loads, I am almost 100% sure those are sugar beets.

 

For more info on them see Don’s page here:

 

http://utahrails.net/industries/sugar.php

 

and here for photos of them:

http://web2.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/sugarbeets.html

 

https://www.americansugarbeet.org/who-we-are/what-is-a-sugarbeet.html

 

regards,

 

 

Tim Mulina

BHI Publications

http://www.quickpicbooks.com/

 

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 4:00 PM
To: stmfc
Subject: [STMFC] car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

 

 

Some interesting car ends:

 

 

Gondola loads, any idea what is being shipped?

 

 


Re: car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

Bill Welch
 

That MDT reefer is long overdue from somebody, anybody!!!!

Bill Welch


car end Sunday plus some other pictures of interest

gary laakso
 


Re: Seasons greetings

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Nice sentiment Al. 
A Happy Christmas and New Year to one and all.

Paul Doggett UK

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"'Al and Patricia Westerfield' westerfieldalfred@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

To all prototype modelers everywhere:  HAPPY WINTER SOLSTICE! – Al Westerfield
 


Seasons greetings

 

To all prototype modelers everywhere:  HAPPY WINTER SOLSTICE! – Al Westerfield
 


2nd run of GARX reefers

brian k. dick
 

    I stopped into one of my local hobby shops this  Sat. afternoon and was surprised when the
proprietor told me some cars I had on order were in.  I picked up Swift, Cudahy, Wilson and
Armour cars.  While I have not had a chance to inspect them really close up, they all looked
quite nicely done viewing them at bent arms length.  I know in the first run, some complained
about parts out of whack, I saw none of this on the cars I picked up today. Jason and Bill and
the rest of the Rapido crew, IMHO did a great job on this run of reefers.
                                                                   Brian Dick,   St. Paul, MN.


Early 20th century images

Schuyler Larrabee
 

http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-12-20-14

 

Third and fourth images have freight cars, pretty close up.

 

Schuyler


Re: Prototype Rails 2015

Andy Harman
 

Several things conspired to me not making the clinician list for the first time in 15 years.  Doesnt seem all that long ago I was booking my Delta flight for the first one.   I'm actually doing pretty good for a year that started out getting sick and ended with getting fired.  

Sent from my overpriced graham cracker

On Dec 20, 2014, at 7:38 PM, "'Scott Dam' scott.dam@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

Thanks, Bill.
Also, remember that the registration discount of $10 expires on 12/31/14 as does the block of hotel reservations. So, if you are coming, please register to save money and reserve your room soon.
Scott Dam
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 3:25 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Prototype Rails 2015
 
 

In examining the Schedule of Prototype Rails 2015 it seems to me there is something of a theme around "Finer Modeling" with Bruce Smith's presentation on Photo Etch, Tom Madden's Resin Casting, Jack Burgess' Sketch Up for printing parts and my XXxtreme Modeling if anyone needs more encouragement to come join us.


Bill Welch


Re: Prototype Rails 2015

Scott Dam
 

Thanks, Bill.
Also, remember that the registration discount of $10 expires on 12/31/14 as does the block of hotel reservations. So, if you are coming, please register to save money and reserve your room soon.
Scott Dam

Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 3:25 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Prototype Rails 2015
 
 

In examining the Schedule of Prototype Rails 2015 it seems to me there is something of a theme around "Finer Modeling" with Bruce Smith's presentation on Photo Etch, Tom Madden's Resin Casting, Jack Burgess' Sketch Up for printing parts and my XXxtreme Modeling if anyone needs more encouragement to come join us.


Bill Welch

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