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Re: Book: Freight Car Distribution & Car Handling In The United States

Tony Thompson
 

The title was in the Subject line.


    Maybe this shows that the subject line isn't the best place.


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Re: Book: Freight Car Distribution & Car Handling In The United States

thecitrusbelt@...
 

The title was in the Subject line.

Re: Book: Freight Car Distribution & Car Handling In The United States

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

 
Courtesy of Charles Hostetler’s blog (Modeling the CNW in Milwaukee, 1957) here is a link to a very interesting industry text by Eugene W. Coughlin.  The author was the Manager, Railroad Relations, Car Service Division, Association Of American Railroads.  The book was published in 1956.

   MIght have been nice to include the NAME of the book, Bob. It's _Freight Car Distribution and Car Handling in the United States_ and is indeed a very useful and informative book. Those interested in freight car handling have been aware of it (and buying used copies on the internet) for years. Now it's available on-line in digital form, as Bob reported. You can find numerous references to it in my blog, as in Hostetler's and others.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
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Book: Freight Cars Rolling

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Again, Courtesy of Charles Hostetler’s blog (Modeling the CNW in Milwaukee, 1957) here is a link to a digitized version of Lawrence W. Sagle's book "Freight Cars Rolling" published in 1960.

 

The book, digitized as published or in text form (which can be copied) is available free on- line at:

 

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015000449929;view=1up;seq=1

 

After a quick review I would not say this is as good a book as “Freight Car Distribution & Car Handling In The United States”, however, the book is loaded with pictures from the era before 1960.

 

Below is the table of contents.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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Table Of Contents

 

Chapter 1. Freight Car Classification — Identification of Types — Markings, Slogans, Colors.

Chapter 2. Making a Freight Shipment — Computing Freight Charges — Rail-

road Scales — What the Freight Cars Carry.

Chapter 3. Freight Car Records and Accounting — The Car Service Department — How the Cars are Routed — Per Diem,

 Mileage Charge, Demurrage — Car Inspection and Repair.

Chapter 4. The Work  of the Freight Agent — The Freight Forwarding Company — Pickup and Delivery  Service.

Chapter 5. Shipping Fruits and Vegetables — Beef from the Prairies —

Handling Live Stock — The Banana Train — Watermelons from Dixie — Coal, Ore  and Steel.

Chapter 6. The Freight Train and its Crew — The Train Conductor and

Train Orders — "Peddlers" and Fast Freights — Ruling Grade and Tonnage Restrictions — Classification Yards, Break-Bulk Stations — 1,236,650,000 Tons of Freight!

 

Book: Freight Car Distribution & Car Handling In The United States

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Courtesy of Charles Hostetler’s blog (Modeling the CNW in Milwaukee, 1957) here is a link to a very interesting industry text by Eugene W. Coughlin.  The author was the Manager, Railroad Relations, Car Service Division, Association Of American Railroads.  The book was published in 1956.

 

The book, digitized as published or in text form (which can be copied) is available free on- line at:

 

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015006075272;view=1up;seq=1

 

Below is the table of contents, which appears to have a lot of good material for those of you are interested in prototype operations.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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Table Of Contents

 

 I. Freight Car Efficiency, ABCs of; Genesis and Principles of

 Car Service Rules 1

 II. Car Service Rules observance 10

 III. Local Car Service Rules meetings 29

 IV. Departmental Aid in Efficient Car Handling 43

 V. Reports and Forms for Freight Car Handling 59

 VI. Heavier Loading of Freight Cars 91

 VII. Miscellaneous Abuses of and Delay to Equipment 104

 VIII. Cross Haul of Empty Cars in Terminals 114

 IX. Commodity Inspection and Carding 119

 X. Short Routing of Empty Cars 129

 XI. Demurrage and Storage 140

 XII. Weighing Freight and Empty Cars 149

 XIII. Bad Orders 154

 XIV. Yard and Terminal Observations 162

 XV. Regional Shippers' Advisory Boards 170

 XVI. Shippers and Receivers Part in Efficient Car Handling .. 180

 XVII. Complete Unloading or Cleaning of Cars 195

 XVIII. Embargoes 204

 XIX. Moving the Annual Grain Crop 210

 XX. Coal Car Distribution and Mine Ratings 224

 XXI. Refrigerator, and Tank Cars; Privately Owned Cars .... 243

 XXII. Car Hire 267

 XXIII. Adequacy Freight Car Ownership—Car Ownership Formu-

lae 281

 XXIV. Post-War Freight Car Shortages 294

 XXV. Association of American Railroads 308

Re: WTB Champ Decals #EH-256 SL-SF Frisco Steam Freight White #eh-256

Dennis Williams
 

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Re: Broadway Limited Imports Stock Car

Douglas Harding
 

I live in a rural area, with a very active sale barn in town and numerous farmers raising cattle and hogs. If desired I could bring a bucket of the appropriate organic material, enough to fill thousands of stockcars, to Naperville next fall. Perhaps we could get the good Dr. Smith to authenticate the organic matter as to species so you would have the correct odors emanating from your stockcars as to the load noted on your waybills.

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:04 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Broadway Limited Imports Stock Car

 

 

Many could be found with all-organic  GMO-free sound modules, frequently including all-natural odors

at no extra cost. 

Chuckles (aka Chuck Peck)

 

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:57 PM, harperandbrown@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Did any of the prototypes have sound modules?

 

Jared Harper

Athens, GA



---In STMFC@..., <smithbf@...> wrote :

Garth,

 

Car subclasses matter…

 

As Ben’s answer indicates, none of the 25 K7 stock cars were sold to other roads, that we know of.  

 

More importantly for the discussion of the BLI car, none of the 1500 or so K7A were sold to other roads ;)  The PRR’s K8 however, while also not sold to other roads, afaik, bore a strong resemblance to stock cars on several other roads because it was based on a standard AAR design car.  I believe that F&C may do some of these in addition to the K8.

 

Regards

Bruce

 

Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."

 

 

On Jan 27, 2015, at 4:58 AM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Garth Groff asked:


"Did the PRR ever sell off any of their K7 stock cars to another
railroad?"

No.


Ben Hom

 

WTB Santa Fe Railway Rolling Stock Reference Series Volume 4 Santa Fe Boxcars 1869-1953

John Barry
 

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Re: Embarrassing Situation

Bill Welch
 

Fred, is that the person I introduced you to who seemed interested in your club, an engineer with Barge, Waggoner, Sumner & Cannon? Very unique business card that I have somewhere.

Bill Welch

Re: Embarrassing Situation

Tim Mulina BHI <bhipubs@...>
 

Fred,

 

I would not be too embarrassed about it. It happens to all of us.

 

I have gotten to the point of telling people to remind me of particular things to help me remember who they are because I am horrible with names…faces are like details on a car kit though and I remember them :^)

 

At least you remember something about him. I have had conventions and get home and remember there was a guy who was into XYZ that sounded very interesting…and that be all I could remember about how to get in touch with him. Only to have him come up to me a couple of years later at a Convention in a different city and pick things up right where we had left off before.

 

Growing up my family lived in Brentwood for a couple of years and we were just looking at the online maps trying to remember the name of the street we lived on and if it was off Hillsboro or Franklin Road. Everything has changed so much my parents could no longer remember how to get to their old house. The first place I took the controls of a Glider was down in Eagleville in a WW2 surplus TG-3A 2 seater. It was easy enough for the 12 yr old I was then to fly and actually could soar a bit instead of just glide down. The hills and treelots made for some fun bumps in the Summer skies.

 

Tim

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:43 AM
To: stmfc@...
Subject: [STMFC] Embarrassing Situation

 

 

After attending Prototype Rails my wife and I stayed in Florida for an extended vacation.  When we returned home, I discovered that I had lost an email from John(don't remember his last name), whose father lives in Franklin on Gosey Lane.  Hopefully, he will see this and resend the email.

Fred Huss

Franklin, TN

Re: Broadway Limited Imports Stock Car

Jon Miller
 

On 1/27/2015 10:57 AM, harperandbrown@... [STMFC] wrote:

Did any of the prototypes have sound modules?
    Not exactly but they did sometimes have animated cows, sheep and the like.  Someone did a really good job on those as they sounded just like the real thing.

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Re: Broadway Limited Imports Stock Car

Charles Peck
 

Many could be found with all-organic  GMO-free sound modules, frequently including all-natural odors
at no extra cost. 
Chuckles (aka Chuck Peck)

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:57 PM, harperandbrown@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Did any of the prototypes have sound modules?


Jared Harper
Athens, GA


---In STMFC@..., wrote :

Garth,

Car subclasses matter…

As Ben’s answer indicates, none of the 25 K7 stock cars were sold to other roads, that we know of.  

More importantly for the discussion of the BLI car, none of the 1500 or so K7A were sold to other roads ;)  The PRR’s K8 however, while also not sold to other roads, afaik, bore a strong resemblance to stock cars on several other roads because it was based on a standard AAR design car.  I believe that F&C may do some of these in addition to the K8.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Jan 27, 2015, at 4:58 AM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Garth Groff asked:


"Did the PRR ever sell off any of their K7 stock cars to another
railroad?"

No.


Ben Hom


Re: Broadway Limited Imports Stock Car

Bruce Smith
 

And then they had smell modules as well!
Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

On Jan 27, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Jared Harper asked:
"Did any of the prototypes have sound modules?"

Only when loaded with livestock.




Ben Hom



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Re: Broadway Limited Imports Stock Car

Benjamin Hom
 

Jared Harper asked:
"Did any of the prototypes have sound modules?"

Only when loaded with livestock.




Ben Hom

Re: Broadway Limited Imports Stock Car

Jared Harper
 

Did any of the prototypes have sound modules?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


---In STMFC@..., <smithbf@...> wrote :

Garth,

Car subclasses matter…

As Ben’s answer indicates, none of the 25 K7 stock cars were sold to other roads, that we know of.  

More importantly for the discussion of the BLI car, none of the 1500 or so K7A were sold to other roads ;)  The PRR’s K8 however, while also not sold to other roads, afaik, bore a strong resemblance to stock cars on several other roads because it was based on a standard AAR design car.  I believe that F&C may do some of these in addition to the K8.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Jan 27, 2015, at 4:58 AM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Garth Groff asked:


"Did the PRR ever sell off any of their K7 stock cars to another
railroad?"

No.


Ben Hom

Embarrassing Situation

fred huss
 

After attending Prototype Rails my wife and I stayed in Florida for an extended vacation.  When we returned home, I discovered that I had lost an email from John(don't remember his last name), whose father lives in Franklin on Gosey Lane.  Hopefully, he will see this and resend the email.
Fred Huss
Franklin, TN
cmshuss@...

Re: Broadway Limited Imports Stock Car

Bruce Smith
 

Garth,

Car subclasses matter…

As Ben’s answer indicates, none of the 25 K7 stock cars were sold to other roads, that we know of.  

More importantly for the discussion of the BLI car, none of the 1500 or so K7A were sold to other roads ;)  The PRR’s K8 however, while also not sold to other roads, afaik, bore a strong resemblance to stock cars on several other roads because it was based on a standard AAR design car.  I believe that F&C may do some of these in addition to the K8.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Jan 27, 2015, at 4:58 AM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Garth Groff asked:


"Did the PRR ever sell off any of their K7 stock cars to another
railroad?"

No.


Ben Hom

Re: PRR X29 builders and dates

Benjamin Hom
 

Tim O'Connor asked:
"My notes say 100000-100324 had dreadnaught ends, and that 100688 had a radial roof. Is that accurate and are there more detail variations in these series?"

Correct on both. 100688 was definitely one of the 100 radial roof cars - one of its builders photos seems to get reproduced in many articles on the X29, giving the impression that this variation was far more common than it actually was. At least one car (100688) was equipped with GSC BX express trucks.


Ben Hom

Re: PRR X29 builders and dates

Tim O'Connor
 


 
100000-100399 Enola 1=5-33
  100400-100799 Pittsburgh 2=5-33
  100800,100801-100924 Altoona 11-32,1=2-23
  AB brakes on all.


My notes say 100000-100324 had dreadnaught ends, and that 100688 had a radial roof.
Is that accurate and are there more detail variations in these series?

Tim O'Connor