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Re: Future floor finish

Bob DeMoss
 

 I was at a clinic put on by the PSR, Cajon Division this last Saturday, and one member uses PLEDGE Floor Care, Multi Surface / Finish (bottle with Boots on label) to apply decals.  He apply's Pledge on car, than puts on decal, and a light coat of Pledge over.  Dull coat over to remove gloss.

Bob DeMoss
SFSCRR
 
 

On 02/01/15, 'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC]com> wrote:
 
 

I’ve had a bottle of this for some time, and I think I have a candidate for using it to obtain a gloss surface for decaling.

 

I know that using this has been discussed, but if this specific question was addressed, I missed it:

 

Is it OK to use straight out of the bottle, or should it be thinned down?  And if so, with what?  Water?

Schuyler


Re: Model Railway Hobbyist article - Multiple-Compartment Tank Cars

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 2/2/2015 6:49 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

It sounds like Jon has problems with the Adobe reader, which has
definitely become more unusable with time.

        Problems fixed and started reading the article.  Really good.  If you like tank cars you can't do with out this.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Photos needed: HPCX and COSX

al_brown03
 

There's a photo of COSX 935 in RMJ 6/08, p 15.

There are photos of COSX 947 and 941 in Kaminski, "Tank Cars AC&F", pp 105 and 106 respectively, but these are both two-compartment cars built by AC&F.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Model Railway Hobbyist article - Multiple-Compartment Tank Cars

Marty McGuirk
 

I also really enjoyed reading Richard's fine article in MRH. 

He had two other articles in MRH that I recall - both truly in depth. 
One was his "survey" of HO freight car truck cars. 
His first MRH article was on panel-side hoppers and appeared in the second or third issue. 

Marty McGuirk


Re: Model Railway Hobbyist article - Multiple-Compartment Tank Cars

Tim O'Connor
 


It sounds like Jon has problems with the Adobe reader, which has
definitely become more unusable with time. Fortunately PDF is a well
known file format and as long as you can download the file, there are
other programs that can display PDF files. Just Google for them.

Tim O'



I'd really like to look at this but Adobe just will not cooperate.  It keeps saying it won't install with IE and when I shut IE off then it still doesn't install the latest version.

    Computer problems are, of course, off topic for this list, but there IS some fine freight car info in the February MRH. Keep trying other avenues, Jon. And BTW, it is hardly Adobe's fault. The MRH issue downloads just fine with Firefox and Safari both.

Tony Thompson 


Re: Mathieson Dry Ice Reefer

Bruce Smith
 

Lester,

Page 68 of PRR Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment (vol 1) by Sweetland and Yanosey, shows NX 8850, a former PRR R7 in dry ice service in May 1963.  The photo shows "DRY ICE" lettering but the other panel on the side appears to be masked.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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After finishing a Westerfield resin DS MILW box car I thought it might be fun to build a Ambroid Company wood Mathieson Dry Ice refrigerator,  kit No 7, in the One of Five Thousand series that I picked up in an estate sale many years back.   After looking at the kit plan sheet the only photo of a car that I can find that is like the Mathieson car is the photo of FGEX 43982, an ex-PRR Class R7 using the same steel superstructure frame design of the X23 box car in the book "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet" by Kline and Culotta.

So, asking for help in directing me to a photo of a wood Mathieson Dry Ice refrigerator.   Thank you in advance for your time and effort to help.   Lester Breuer





Re: MTH Paint Remover

John Sykes III
 

OK, here it is again.

Butyl cellosolve (2-butoxy ethanol) is available in one gallon cans at large Sherwin Williams Paint stores (it is used by professional cabinet makers to slow down lacquer drying, or so I was told).  It is around $55/gal, so you might want to get a whole club to share the expense.  The formula for Chameleon or Wash-Away paint stripper is roughly the following:

Buy a 1 pint bottle of 91% isopropyl alcohol at WalMart or any pharmacy.

Measure out 4 oz of the isopropyl and throw it away (or use it for something else).

DO NOT USE 70% ISOPROPYL!  IT WON'T WORK RIGHT.

Replace the 4 oz taken out of the bottle with an equal amount of butyl cellosolve.  Put top back on and shake well.  Make sure to label your new paint stripper, so you don't goof and use it for alcohol.

Butyl cellosolve is also the active ingredient in Hobsco Solvaset, but I haven't found the proportions yet (I think it is just butyl cellosolve in distilled water but don't know if it is 2%, 5% or whatever).

-- John



Re: Mathieson Dry Ice Reefer

Todd Horton
 

The line to Saltville was an N&W branch line. I read somewhere that it was one of the most prosperous branch lines on the N&W. That’s hard to believe considering the coal traffic on the N&W but I do recall reading that somewhere.   Todd Horton

 

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Friends,

Saltville was an interesting place. Once a huge producer of chemicals, especially nitrates, it is now a shell of its former self. There are several locomotives plinthed in the city park, and when I was there several years ago there were freight cars (mandatory FC content) and cabooses scattered at several places around the town, remnants of a failed attempt to turn the branch line into a tourist road. The railroad had been shut down for years when I was there in the early 90s, and I'm sure all the track and equipment (except the steamers) has been removed.

My 1958 ORER lists 94 cars as belonging to Olin Mathieson Chemical Corportation. Of these, 44 were 10K tank cars operated by Republic Tank Car Co. for them under the SASX reporting marks. There were also two 10K tanks operated by Mathieson themselves under the CBMX reporting marks. The remaining 48 MAWX cars were dry ice cars of various types, many of them single cars or small lots of 2-3. What a mess! Home points for the dry ice cars were Chicago, Rochester, NY, and Saltville, VA.

I'm not sure of the parentage of the branch, but I think it might have belonged to the N&W at one time. It certainly connected with their system, so these dry ice cars would have been a seen in N&W freights.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 2/2/15 6:54 PM, Matthew Hurst handbt33@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

If you have RPR Cyc 15, there is a photo of a Mathieson Dry Ice reefer on page 77. Photo taken in Saltville, VA in 1952.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Matthew Hurst

 


Re: Model Railway Hobbyist article - Multiple-Compartment Tank Cars

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

Sorry, that was (obviously) intended just for Jon.

Jack Burgess


Re: Model Railway Hobbyist article - Multiple-Compartment Tank Cars

Douglas Harding
 

Or you can read it on line at http://mrhpub.com/2015-02-feb/port/

The tank car article is on page 40.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Model Railway Hobbyist article - Multiple-Compartment Tank Cars

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

Jon…



It shouldn’t be a “install” problem…you just needed to download it to your own computer. Once downloaded, click on the file and it should open in Adobe Reader, a free program available from Adobe. If you want, call me and I can help you with it.



Jack



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On 2/2/2015 11:01 AM, tangentscalemodels@... [STMFC] wrote:

Guys,



Our friend Richard Hendrickson penned an article on multiple compartment tank cars prior to his untimely passing. It can be viewed here: http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/

I'd really like to look at this but Adobe just will not cooperate. It keeps saying it won't install with IE and when I shut IE off then it still doesn't install the latest version.




--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS










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Re: Model Railway Hobbyist article - Multiple-Compartment Tank Cars

Tony Thompson
 

 Jon Miller wrote:

 
I'd really like to look at this but Adobe just will not cooperate.  It keeps saying it won't install with IE and when I shut IE off then it still doesn't install the latest version.

    Computer problems are, of course, off topic for this list, but there IS some fine freight car info in the February MRH. Keep trying other avenues, Jon. And BTW, it is hardly Adobe's fault. The MRH issue downloads just fine with Firefox and Safari both.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
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Re: Mathieson Dry Ice Reefer

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Saltville was an interesting place. Once a huge producer of chemicals, especially nitrates, it is now a shell of its former self. There are several locomotives plinthed in the city park, and when I was there several years ago there were freight cars (mandatory FC content) and cabooses scattered at several places around the town, remnants of a failed attempt to turn the branch line into a tourist road. The railroad had been shut down for years when I was there in the early 90s, and I'm sure all the track and equipment (except the steamers) has been removed.

My 1958 ORER lists 94 cars as belonging to Olin Mathieson Chemical Corportation. Of these, 44 were 10K tank cars operated by Republic Tank Car Co. for them under the SASX reporting marks. There were also two 10K tanks operated by Mathieson themselves under the CBMX reporting marks. The remaining 48 MAWX cars were dry ice cars of various types, many of them single cars or small lots of 2-3. What a mess! Home points for the dry ice cars were Chicago, Rochester, NY, and Saltville, VA.

I'm not sure of the parentage of the branch, but I think it might have belonged to the N&W at one time. It certainly connected with their system, so these dry ice cars would have been a seen in N&W freights.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 2/2/15 6:54 PM, Matthew Hurst handbt33@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
If you have RPR Cyc 15, there is a photo of a Mathieson Dry Ice reefer on page 77. Photo taken in Saltville, VA in 1952.

Hope that helps.

Matthew Hurst


Re: Model Railway Hobbyist article - Multiple-Compartment Tank Cars

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 2/2/2015 11:01 AM, tangentscalemodels@... [STMFC] wrote:

Guys,


Our friend Richard Hendrickson penned an article on multiple compartment tank cars prior to his untimely passing.  It can be viewed here: http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/

    I'd really like to look at this but Adobe just will not cooperate.  It keeps saying it won't install with IE and when I shut IE off then it still doesn't install the latest version.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Mathieson Dry Ice Reefer

Matthew Hurst
 

If you have RPR Cyc 15, there is a photo of a Mathieson Dry Ice reefer on page 77. Photo taken in Saltville, VA in 1952.

Hope that helps.

Matthew Hurst


Re: Mathieson Dry Ice Reefer

Jeff Pellas <jppellas@...>
 

Can't help with prototype photos of the R7 car but there are a number of photos of the rather odd looking ACF cars built for Matheison in the early 1930s. Early kits for different versions these cars were made by both Varney and Laconia. I have one of each kit and I intend to build and super detail them at some point.

http://www.richyodermodels.com/rym_images/mathieson/400x219_mawx_%205032_1942.jpg


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Subject: [STMFC] Mathieson Dry Ice Reefer



After finishing a Westerfield resin DS MILW box car I thought it might be fun to build a Ambroid Company wood Mathieson Dry Ice refrigerator,  kit No 7, in the One of Five Thousand series that I picked up in an estate sale many years back.   After looking at the kit plan sheet the only photo of a car that I can find that is like the Mathieson car is the photo of FGEX 43982, an ex-PRR Class R7 using the same steel superstructure frame design of the X23 box car in the book "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet" by Kline and Culotta.
So, asking for help in directing me to a photo of a wood Mathieson Dry Ice refrigerator.   Thank you in advance for your time and effort to help.   Lester Breuer




Mathieson Dry Ice Reefer

frograbbit602
 

After finishing a Westerfield resin DS MILW box car I thought it might be fun to build a Ambroid Company wood Mathieson Dry Ice refrigerator,  kit No 7, in the One of Five Thousand series that I picked up in an estate sale many years back.   After looking at the kit plan sheet the only photo of a car that I can find that is like the Mathieson car is the photo of FGEX 43982, an ex-PRR Class R7 using the same steel superstructure frame design of the X23 box car in the book "The Postwar Freight Car Fleet" by Kline and Culotta.

So, asking for help in directing me to a photo of a wood Mathieson Dry Ice refrigerator.   Thank you in advance for your time and effort to help.   Lester Breuer



Re: Yarmouth stirrups

ed_mines
 

Thanks. That set must be new.


Original stirrups on those Intermountain reefers are very fragile.


What size drill are you using?


I've been cutting the individual stirrups from the fret (?) with the scissor in my desk.


Ed Mines 




Re: Yarmouth stirrups

peteraue
 

Ed,

Photo-etched hatch stops are included in the Yarmouth YMW-215 fret for SFRD reefers.

Peter Aue


Re: Can you ID this 1957 TOFC?

William Hirt
 

Russ Strotz posted on the Railway Bull Shippers List in 2007 about the initial 1959 CB&Q TOFC meat service into Chicago from American Stores in Lincoln NE. These were very hot cars and watched very closely. Russ stated that in the late 50s there was no rail TOFC car delivery in Chicago at the time. The trailers were rubber wheeled from railroad to railroad at this time. Some of this was due to bridge clearance issues in the Chicago terminal. In fact the IHB he said had an embargo on TOFC cars as they had no ramp facilities. So that might help to explain why a DL&W trailer would be on C&NW flat car.

Bill Hirt


On 2/2/2015 2:44 PM, MDelvec952@... [STMFC] wrote:


I would strongly suggest that it is a DL&W trailer -- the style and letteing scheme fits (angled Route of Phoebe Snow lettering, similar to the boxcars), as does the silver roof. That flat car is not from the DL&W, however, and Tim's suggestion of a C&NW TOFC flat is a good one. 

               ....Mike Del Vecchio



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