Tim O' wrote:

Example #1 -- Rock Island assigned some airslides to the California & Hawaiian
Sugar Company in Crockett California -- a thousand miles from any Rock Island line.
The loads were routed back to the Rock Island at Tucumcari New Mexico. This
cane sugar was valuable enough to travel 2,000 miles on a regular basis.

Two points: I thought was Crockett was a sugar _beet_ refinery. Did C&H also bring
in raw cane from their Hawaiian operations to be refined there? Or was sugar cane
also grown in the Sacramento delta? I thought that was too far north for cane.

A foreign road assigning cars to a shipper is an example of a car pool. When did
pools start? I thought the earliest were around 1960. Autoparts pools are the best
known, but there were other pools, especially serving the big packaged food companies.

Scott Chatfield

Al

Sand is an interesting commodity -- silica content and the crystalline structure
vary depending on location. You're describing the "foundry sand" which has good
packing and forming properties. On the other side of the lake, in Wisconsin, are
deposits of high-silica sand that is ideal for high compression applications such
as injection into shale deposits to fracture the rock and release oil & gas. Most
of the "fracking sand" in the US comes from deposits in Wisconsin.

Tim O'Connor

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Folks;

While I think we all agree that loads like cement, most sands, lime, and maybe even dolomite, would be mostly regional, there were a lot of things being loaded into covered hoppers in the post-war period that were not. Some came from few, and very specific locations in the U.S., some from overseas. There were steel plants all over the U.S. in STMFC timeframe that received crushed minerals, in quantities that required one or more car loads at a time. Kaiser Steel in SoCal, for instance, received covered hoppers, and even box car loads, of minerals used in the steel-making process. One well-known move was nickel ore in Canadian box cars shipped all over the U.S. through a northeastern portal. Another was the movement of minerals from the docks (like Philly), to locations all over the country. There were some vital metals, for instance, that we did not produce for our own industry. Another nice internal movement was molybdenum from Climax Colorado. There are literally hundreds of interesting movements to exploit, if you do some serious digging...

Elden Gatwood

One can get wound up in how many PRR H30's were in the North american car fleet, conductor's lists/wheels/train journals, etc.

But if an online customer used product shipped in covered hoppers, this is more a factor for the STMFC modeller than any other, IMHO.

Certain product was valuable enough to be shipped great distances in covered hoppers. Cement is made everywhere. But feldspar and nepheline syenite are not. A mine a hundred miles east of Toronto produces the latter to this day, shipping product out on the CPR and into the US. In STMFC times, this mostly moved in CN and CPR "slab-side" covered hoppers modelled in HO scale RTR by True Line Trains.

I model a line over which a lot of this traffic moved, so I can justify having a wayward H30 in Canada, plus the True Line hoppers of course. My proto-freelanced road uses a number of ACF-design covered hoppers as well. And US modelers can also justify having a CN or CPR "slab-side" on their layout if a glassmaking industry is anywhere near the area that they model.

Steve Lucas.







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I think a similar photo was identified as being of wooden cars removed from
the tracks and set aside for burning. The iron and steel would then be
reclaimed.

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Digital Images - University of Kentucky's Digital
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or this?? :-)

http://kdl.kyvl.org/catalog/xt7sf7664q86_6047_1

Tim O'Connor

What is this?

http://kdl.kyvl.org/catalog/xt7prr1pgv6h_236_2

http://kdl.kyvl.org/catalog/xt7prr1pgv6h_236_3

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"Mark Drake markstation01@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

It's a tender truck, and that is the locomotive equipment for cab signals.

Dennis

My error. In looking at the photo, it appears that the induction head is attached to the ties below the bolt heads at either end of the "reader" head.

All sorts of neat things in the archive though.

Michael Seitz
Missoula MT
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or this?? :-)

http://kdl.kyvl.org/catalog/xt7sf7664q86_6047_1

Tim O'Connor

Tim O'Connor wrote:
"I know, not a freight train -- but is this Starucca Viaduct? I didn't
know there were any large stone arch bridges in Kentucky..."
http://kdl.kyvl.org/catalog/xt7sf7664q86_5397_1

Just because the collection resides at the University of Kentucky doesn't mean all of the images were taken in Kentucky...


Ben Hom

Hi Jeff,