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Re: CGW X-29

hayden_tom@...
 


Re: CGW X-29

Spen Kellogg <spninetynine@...>
 

On 3/30/2015 3:34 PM, Richard Dermody ddermody@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Spen,

Would you happen to have any contact info for this vendor?

Dick,

I think his name is Roy Thompson and he is located in Colorado Springs. He is a regular at the TCA shows in Denver. He is constantly looking to buy up estate stuff, which he then marks up. He also does a lot of wheeling and dealing at the shows. Other than that I can't help you.

Spen


Re: CGW X-29

Richard Dermody <ddermody@...>
 

Spen,

Would you happen to have any contact info for this vendor?

Dick

On Mar 30, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Spen Kellogg spninetynine@... [STMFC] wrote:

Bill McClung, who is Red Caboose, is also the VP Sales (I may not have the title exactly right, but it's close enough) for Intermountain. There is at least one train show vendor here in Colorado who sells Red Caboose kits packaged in a plastic bag. I don't know if it is old inventory, or if he is able to replenish when it gets low.

Spen Kellogg


Re: CGW X-29

Brian Carlson
 

If you go to www.red-caboose.com all their undec kits are listed. RC 7003 is the ARA body. 
Brian Carlson 


Re: CGW X-29

hayden_tom@...
 

I don't recall seeing any 1923 ARA cars from RC. In fact there is now on e-bay a listing for an RC "X-29" lettered for CGW. It even has the reversed 3 panels on the door and is numbered 86302. It looks like  a reasonable stand-in for the correct car, but it IS an X29 style with X29 rivet pattern and ladder position. Would RC produce a "bogus" 86302 if they had a 1923 ARA car available? 

 Tom


Re: CGW X-29

Spen Kellogg <spninetynine@...>
 

On 3/30/2015 1:05 PM, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Rich, �Red Caboose is no more. �All the HO stuff is Intermountain now so you could see what their planned releases will be. �A since IMR can cut their own tooling, maybe they can do the correct CGW door.


� � � � � � InterMountain has indeed taken over production and marketing from Red Caboose, but if you visit the IM site you will quickly discover that all Red Caboose models are still sold under that name.

Tony Thompson�� � � � � ��Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA

Bill McClung, who is Red Caboose, is also the VP Sales (I may not have the title exactly right, but it's close enough) for Intermountain. There is at least one train show vendor here in Colorado who sells Red Caboose kits packaged in a plastic bag. I don't know if it is old inventory, or if he is able to replenish when it gets low.

Spen Kellogg


Re: CGW X-29

Mark Drake <markstation01@...>
 

Kind of like arguing Chevrolet & Buick are different when they're both GM products-

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From:"richramik@... [STMFC]"
Date:Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:39 PM
Subject:Re: Re: [STMFC] Re: CGW X-29

 

Tony:

Poor choice of words on my part.  I knew about RC being part of IM.  Checked the website, didn't find them.

Thanks,
Rich Ramik
 
 
On 03/30/15, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC]<STMFC@...> wrote:
 
 

Rich,  Red Caboose is no more.  All the HO stuff is Intermountain now so you could see what their planned releases will be.  A since IMR can cut their own tooling, maybe they can do the correct CGW door.


            InterMountain has indeed taken over production and marketing from Red Caboose, but if you visit the IM site you will quickly discover that all Red Caboose models are still sold under that name.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: CGW X-29

richramik@...
 

Tony:

Poor choice of words on my part.  I knew about RC being part of IM.  Checked the website, didn't find them.

Thanks,
Rich Ramik
 
 
On 03/30/15, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
 

Rich,  Red Caboose is no more.  All the HO stuff is Intermountain now so you could see what their planned releases will be.  A since IMR can cut their own tooling, maybe they can do the correct CGW door.


            InterMountain has indeed taken over production and marketing from Red Caboose, but if you visit the IM site you will quickly discover that all Red Caboose models are still sold under that name.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: CGW X-29

Clark Propst
 

There were CGW “X29 style” cars with the original Pullman doors in MofW service for the CNW. Even into the last gray and red scheme. One may still be on the Iowa Interstate? It sat in Coralville IA for years.
 
Bob’s photos has several good photos of these cars in as built paint.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: CGW X-29

Tony Thompson
 

Rich,  Red Caboose is no more.  All the HO stuff is Intermountain now so you could see what their planned releases will be.  A since IMR can cut their own tooling, maybe they can do the correct CGW door.


            InterMountain has indeed taken over production and marketing from Red Caboose, but if you visit the IM site you will quickly discover that all Red Caboose models are still sold under that name.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Placarding TRIX & Tangent tank cars

Bill Welch
 

Sounds like a great article for MRH!

Bill Welch


CGW 1923 ARA proposed standard steel sheathed boxcar

gary laakso
 

Each of the four batches totaling 1,450 cars is pictured in Railway Prototype Cyclopedia Vol 18 at pages 86-88.

Gary Laakso
south of Mike Brock


On Mar 30, 2015, at 1:25 PM, richramik@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Tim:

Looked at the RC site and couldn't find them.  I wouold be interested in them for some of my own projects.

Thanks,
Rich Ramik
 
 
On 03/30/15, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]<STMFC@...> wrote:
 
 


Jason, Red Caboose makes an ARA standard 1923 model in HO. The problem with
the CGW cars is that they are not a match for the sides. I think the CGW cars
have been done in resin in HO scale.

Tim O'Connor

>As noted, the CGW 1923 All Steel A.R.A. cars didn't have Creco doors, they had 3 panel car builders' doors. On line photos of the as-delivered cars outside of the link provided appear to be hard to come by. One thing that could help is to know that any cars still in their 85000-87999 numbering would still have original doors. The cars that were rebuilt were renumbered in to the 8000 series.
>
>A couple modeling notes, the 85000 and 86000 series had just a single grab iron on the left side of the car and the door latch was lower than the 87000 series. Also, as with most non-X29 cars, the side ladders are inset from the car end showing the rivet column at the ends of the car.
>
>I'm not sure why there are so many X29 models available when a standard 1923 car would have much broader appeal.
>
>Jason Kliewer
>Colorado Springs, CO


Re: Tank car matters

railsnw@...
 

Within the SP&S archival records I've been helping in cataloging is a letter from the Santa Fe to the SP&S wanting to know when their tank car that hauled fuel oil to Wishram, WA would be returned to them.

Richard Wilkens


Re: CGW X-29

Jason Kliewer
 

Rich,  Red Caboose is no more.  All the HO stuff is Intermountain now so you could see what their planned releases will be.  A since IMR can cut their own tooling, maybe they can do the correct CGW door.

Tim, if you say the the RC cars are 1923 ARA cars I'll accept that.  I usually look to see if the ladder is all the way to the end of the car, if so I assume it's based off an X29 drawing.


Jason Kliewer




---In STMFC@..., <richramik@...> wrote :

Tim:

Looked at the RC site and couldn't find them.  I wouold be interested in them for some of my own projects.

Thanks,
Rich Ramik
 
 
On 03/30/15, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]<STMFC@...> wrote:
 
 


Jason, Red Caboose makes an ARA standard 1923 model in HO. The problem with
the CGW cars is that they are not a match for the sides. I think the CGW cars
have been done in resin in HO scale.

Tim O'Connor

>As noted, the CGW 1923 All Steel A.R.A. cars didn't have Creco doors, they had 3 panel car builders' doors. On line photos of the as-delivered cars outside of the link provided appear to be hard to come by. One thing that could help is to know that any cars still in their 85000-87999 numbering would still have original doors. The cars that were rebuilt were renumbered in to the 8000 series.
>
>A couple modeling notes, the 85000 and 86000 series had just a single grab iron on the left side of the car and the door latch was lower than the 87000 series. Also, as with most non-X29 cars, the side ladders are inset from the car end showing the rivet column at the ends of the car.
>
>I'm not sure why there are so many X29 models available when a standard 1923 car would have much broader appeal.
>
>Jason Kliewer
>Colorado Springs, CO


Re: Tank car matters

railsnw@...
 

Somewhere at home I have a photo of a Southern Pacific tank car spotted at a sawmill in St. Helens, Oregon which is off of Spokane, Portland & Seattle tracks.

Richard Wilkens


Re: CGW X-29

richramik@...
 

Tim:

Looked at the RC site and couldn't find them.  I wouold be interested in them for some of my own projects.

Thanks,
Rich Ramik
 
 
On 03/30/15, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
 


Jason, Red Caboose makes an ARA standard 1923 model in HO. The problem with
the CGW cars is that they are not a match for the sides. I think the CGW cars
have been done in resin in HO scale.

Tim O'Connor

>As noted, the CGW 1923 All Steel A.R.A. cars didn't have Creco doors, they had 3 panel car builders' doors. On line photos of the as-delivered cars outside of the link provided appear to be hard to come by. One thing that could help is to know that any cars still in their 85000-87999 numbering would still have original doors. The cars that were rebuilt were renumbered in to the 8000 series.
>
>A couple modeling notes, the 85000 and 86000 series had just a single grab iron on the left side of the car and the door latch was lower than the 87000 series. Also, as with most non-X29 cars, the side ladders are inset from the car end showing the rivet column at the ends of the car.
>
>I'm not sure why there are so many X29 models available when a standard 1923 car would have much broader appeal.
>
>Jason Kliewer
>Colorado Springs, CO


FS: 1947 WP Boxcar.

Dave Nelson
 

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/atq/4955348899.html

 

Don’t know seller.

 

Dave Nelson


Re: ACL Photos

John Sykes III
 

Ben:

What are the vintage of the photos in that book?

Reason I ask is that the Fallen Flags and RR Picture Archive photos were mainly cars built in the '60s or repainted in that era.  I am having trouble locating cars in their 1950s paint & lettering scheme (e.g., the purple and silver diesel era).

-- John


Re: ACL Photos

Benjamin Hom
 

John Sykes asked:
"Now that I mentioned that I am doing an ACL roster, I must note that I am having trouble locating 1950's era freight car photos (especially early '50s). If anyone can point me to good source other than Fallen Flags or RR Picture Archives, please advise. Also not interested in buying photos, but want sources that are accessible to all interested individuals (e.g., online or books)."
Don't overlook Bob Liljestrand's (of Bob's Photo) compilation books. These are 48-page paperbacks of photos from his collection and retail between $15-20, which is a bargain compared to what the individual prints would cost. They're available from him at the shows he attends, and pop up on the secondary market from time to time. The ACL book came out in 2004.


Ben Hom


Re: CGW X-29

Tim O'Connor
 

Jason, Red Caboose makes an ARA standard 1923 model in HO. The problem with
the CGW cars is that they are not a match for the sides. I think the CGW cars
have been done in resin in HO scale.

Tim O'Connor

As noted, the CGW 1923 All Steel A.R.A. cars didn't have Creco doors, they had 3 panel car builders' doors. On line photos of the as-delivered cars outside of the link provided appear to be hard to come by. One thing that could help is to know that any cars still in their 85000-87999 numbering would still have original doors. The cars that were rebuilt were renumbered in to the 8000 series.

A couple modeling notes, the 85000 and 86000 series had just a single grab iron on the left side of the car and the door latch was lower than the 87000 series. Also, as with most non-X29 cars, the side ladders are inset from the car end showing the rivet column at the ends of the car.

I'm not sure why there are so many X29 models available when a standard 1923 car would have much broader appeal.

Jason Kliewer
Colorado Springs, CO

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