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Re: Scalpels or scalpel blades

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

There is no doubt that the scalpel holder I have is a hobby one (although better than the first one I bought which was made in Pakistan…probably around a campfire). My current one was also made in Pakistan but was at least machine made. The blades are individually wrapped but aren’t sterile which suggests that they aren’t sold to hospitals…



Jack Burgess



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I bought a scalpel years ago on the recommendation of this list. It was the second worst tool I have ever purchased. I retired it and went back to a variety of xacto blades. Maybe I got a poorer quality hobby one?



If you're wondering the worst tool I ever bought was that Micro-Mark blunt detail removing tool.

Brian J. Carlson
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Re: Scalpels or scalpel blades

Tony Thompson
 

Ed Mims wrote:

 
Scalpel blades are vastly superior to X-acto or other hobby knife blades. But they must be the "real thing", not a hobby knock-off. They are stiff and stay extremely sharp for much longer. The down side is the variety of shapes and sizes is limited.

   Not sure what "superior" means here. I think that scalpel blades are probably a superior alloy of steel, but I most certainly would not agree that they are superior for model railroading use, at least as I have practiced for 40 some years. In that I agree with Jack Burgess.

   I have always used medical blades, with a couple of handles I originally obtained from a medical colleague when I was in the university. Good cutting, yes. Superior, no. I personally love the hobby knife chisel blade, X-Acto or otherwise, and use it for many things in the hobby.

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Re: Scalpels or scalpel blades

Steve Haas
 


<<Over the last couple of mornings I have been using my favorite cutting tool, the Single Edge Razor Blade, to make some very small styrene nuts for an unusual fitting on a Tenn. Central RS-3. As I was doing this I realized that I need to compensate for the angle of the blade when I made the cut or my nuts would not be square when looked at on the side. (Can one really tell from three feet away, LOL?).>>

 

<<Although this also occurs when using the NWSL "Chopper" it gets exaggerated sometimes by the SERB flexing as it cuts. Again, can one really tell from three feet away, yet it does frustrate me sometimes. I am trying to tame my desire of perfection.>>

 

 

Feed that desire for perfection!

 

Cut a touch large and sand to “squareness™” and final dimension.

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA

 


Re: Scalpels or scalpel blades

Brian Carlson
 

I bought a scalpel years ago on the recommendation of this list. It was the second worst tool I have ever purchased. I retired it and went back to a variety of xacto blades. Maybe I got a poorer quality hobby one? 

If you're wondering the worst tool I ever bought was that Micro-Mark blunt detail removing tool. 

Brian J. Carlson

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Re: Scalpels or scalpel blades

Bill Welch
 

Over the last couple of mornings I have been using my favorite cutting tool, the Single Edge Razor Blade, to make some very small styrene nuts for an unusual fitting on a Tenn. Central RS-3. As I was doing this I realized that I need to compensate for the angle of the blade when I made the cut or my nuts would not be square when looked at on the side. (Can one really tell from three feet away, LOL?).

Although this also occurs when using the NWSL "Chopper" it gets exaggerated sometimes by the SERB flexing as it cuts. Again, can one really tell from three feet away, yet it does frustrate me sometimes. I am trying to tame my desire of perfection.

Bill Welch


Re: Scalpels or scalpel blades

Ed Mims
 

Scalpel blades are vastly superior to X-acto or other hobby knife blades. But they must be the "real thing", not a hobby knock-off. They are stiff and stay extremely sharp for much longer. The down side is the variety of shapes and sizes is limited.

Ed Mims
Jacksonville, FL



On Monday, April 20, 2015 4:28 PM, "'Jack Burgess' jack@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
I use both. I won’t call the scalpels “flexible” but the blade is about .015” thick compared to the Xacto which is about .020” thick. But the scalpel does have a tendency to wander a little when used with a straightedge. On the other hand, the very tip of the blade doesn’t break off like the Xacto knife. But, I also don’t use it to score .040” styrene since it tends to wander…

Bottom line…I have yet to figure out a reason to recommend modelers purchase a scalpel…

Jack Burgess

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Some of you have or do use scalpels instead of, or in addition to, hobby knives such as X-acto. Are
scalpel blades stiff or flexible?

Gene Green

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Re: Scalpels or scalpel blades

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

I use both. I won’t call the scalpels “flexible” but the blade is about .015” thick compared to the Xacto which is about .020” thick. But the scalpel does have a tendency to wander a little when used with a straightedge. On the other hand, the very tip of the blade doesn’t break off like the Xacto knife. But, I also don’t use it to score .040” styrene since it tends to wander…



Bottom line…I have yet to figure out a reason to recommend modelers purchase a scalpel…



Jack Burgess



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Some of you have or do use scalpels instead of, or in addition to, hobby knives such as X-acto. Are
scalpel blades stiff or flexible?

Gene Green


Scalpels or scalpel blades

genegreen1942@...
 

Some of you have or do use scalpels instead of, or in addition to, hobby knives such as X-acto.  Are 
scalpel blades stiff or flexible?

Gene Green


Re: MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

destorzek@...
 




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Thanks!  The $64,000 question is "did anyone actually build cars to this design", or is it another Gould tank car?
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Just found a pix of one on e-bay, and I guess I was wrong about the sides not being mirrored; both wide doors ARE on the same end of the car.

The car has never been useful to me, because the road I'm interested in didn't use different size doors on the same car, but the general body work, with the wide letterboard, is suggestive of cars AC&F built just after WWI.

Dennis Storzek


Re: MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

Tony Thompson
 

      One problem I used to encounter in trying to kitbash from this model is that the belt rail is HUGE, and not easy to remove. Few prototypes have a belt rail in that exact location or appearance.

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Re: MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

Tim O'Connor
 


I thought that the old Lambert brass cars were Santa Fe prototypes?
The prices I've seen those go for are about the same as present day
plastic cars.

Tim O'Connor



I wish there was an inexpensive Santa Fe heavyweight baggage car on the market,


Re: MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 4/20/2015 7:56 AM, Andy Sperandeo asperandeo@... [STMFC] wrote:
I wish there was an inexpensive Santa Fe heavyweight baggage car on the market,

    I second that Andy!

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Re: MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

Andy Sperandeo
 

Hi Ben,

The Athearn standarad or heavyweight baggage car definitely does not represent any Santa Fe prototype. The Athearn car lacks the Santa Fe's characteristic I-beam side sill (often mis-labeled a channel sill, but it had two sides). The door sizes and locations don't match either, Santa Fe cars generally lacked belt rails, and the letter board is way too deep on the Athearn model. I wish there was an inexpensive Santa Fe heavyweight baggage car on the market, but unfortunately that's not the case.

So long,

Andy


Re: MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

Benjamin Hom
 



Dennis Storzek wrote:
"I thought the Athearn heavyweight baggage car more or less faithfully followed the drawings of the USRA design published in several of the CBC's, except they missed the fact that on the USRA design the sides were mirror image, so both large doors were at the same end of the car."
 
Thanks!  The $64,000 question is "did anyone actually build cars to this design", or is it another Gould tank car?
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

destorzek@...
 

I thought the Athearn heavyweight baggage car more or less faithfully followed the drawings of the USRA design published in several of the CBC's, except they missed the fact that on the USRA design the sides were mirror image, so both large doors were at the same end of the car.

Dennis Storzek


MythBusters: Athearn "Standard" Baggage Car

Benjamin Hom
 

All,

The old claim that the Athearn "Standard" baggage car represents a Santa Fe prototype has cropped up on the B&O list. My Santa Fe passenger car references are somewhat lacking - would any of the Santa Fe modelers care to comment?

I'm very skeptical of the claim, and suspect that over the years modelers have applied the fact that the "Streamline" baggage represents a Santa Fe prototype (which is true) to the "Standard" baggage (which is dubious unless someone can prove otherwise).


Ben Hom


Re: NYC 28000 Series Stock Car

Benjamin Hom
 

Stan (smadyda@...) wrote:


"There are actually a couple of more articles out done with fish belly underframes but I have not seen an actual photo."

Those articles are definitely in error.  Both lots of stock cars were converted from USRA SS boxcars, which did NOT have fishbelly underframes.


Ben Hom


Re: NYC 28000 Series Stock Car

North Model Railroad Supplies <nmrs@...>
 

Hi Stan,

Thanks for your thoughts and comments.

Yes, I also saw the article mentioning the fishbelly underfame.

The General Arrangement diagram I sourced from the NYC Historical Society, and the photo in the pdf

https://nycshs.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/the-nyc-oval.pdf

show a straight underframe, which appears to be match the USRA underfame available from Tichy (which makes sense).

 

I feel I’ll probably narrow the body, but use the Tichy ends (which I hope should fit) to save gluing the ends back together and filing all those rib joints (grin).

 

Like you in intent to replace the plastic rod with a metal one.

I’ll drill the end two brackets using a normal twist drill but for the inner ones, I’ll use a needle to mark a centre hole on the inner bracket, then I’ll sharpen the end of a piece of steel or brass rod of the appropriate size to make a spade drill, mount it in a pin vise and feed it through the end bracket so I can tunnel bore the adjacent middle bracket, then do the same for the other middle bracket.

 

I’ve done this before for long grab irons, and it has worked well. There is a 50/50 chance it will work for this as well.

 

I’ll check out the other items you mention when the cars arrive (just bought them so I don’t have them yet).

 

Stan, do you have any other prototype photos of these cars, please?

Cheers

Dave North

 

 


Re: NYC 28000 Series Stock Car

Stan Madyda
 

I am currently doing four of the 28000 series and two of the 27000 series.  Yes, the RMC article is an excellent guide.   There are actually a couple of more articles out done with fish belly underframes but I have not seen an actual photo.  The NYC drawings that I have show the lengthwise rod on the left hand side of the car as you face the brake end.  Photos show it on the opposite side.  For my cars, I am leaving the width as it is.  I didn't want to attempt cutting the car in half and then trying to get a good looking joint.  Plus the livestock enjoy the extra room!  I did one car with the end ladders with individual grabs. It's tedious but it came out okay.  I did wreck a couple of ladders in the process.  What helped me was using a sharp punch to make a starter hole before drilling.  Otherwise, I had difficulty with the bit wandering which damaged the ladder.  For the other cars, I'm using a stock Tichy ladder on the ends.  The rod on the bottom of the car is easily broken and I am thinking of removing it and replacing it with a brass rod.  If I do that, I'll file a groove in the back of the hangers.

Stan


Re: Can you help with a presentation on PRR box cars and modeling? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Bruce Smith
 

Sorry folks - meant to send that off list <G>
-Bruce

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Elden,

Here you go! I have sent you a couple of X28 cars (Sunshine resin kits), three version of the X29, as done by modifying the Red Caboose kits, and each of the X31 classes, as done by modifying the Bowser kits.

Regards,
Bruce

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Folks;

I would really appreciate your help in my prep of a presentation on PRR box cars (1919-1968), and modeling!

I would love to show your work, in the "and here's how to model this class" segment, so if you could share a photo or two of your PRR box car models, I'd really appreciate it (and of course, put your name to it).

If you also have any good photos of the prototype you could share, especially in-service or unusual sub-classes.

Consider it over the weekend, and let me know if you could help.

Bruce Smith and Tom Haag, I know you have some great ones....

Thanks!

Elden Gatwood

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