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Re: "Cambria" - stamped on tank car

Robert kirkham
 

Thanks Eric – the car I was looking at was from around 1909-11, and looks like an AC&F product.  Off list I’ve been provided with links to the Cambria plant, etc, and understand they provided steel.  Have not seen anything yet on whether they also provided completed tanks or just steel to AC&F.
 
Rob Kirkham
 

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] "Cambria" - stamped on tank car
 


Cambria Iron Works in Johnstown, PA had a car works. It could be from them.
 
I know the Western Maryland bought some steel hoppers from them back in 1902-03, the dawn of STMFC time.
 
Here's some facility documentation.
 
Eric

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX

On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Robert rdkirkham@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Hi there – doing some research on a preserved tank car at the Duncan Forest Discovery Centre.  The car is CPR 415833, built in the early part of the last century.  It is similar to (and may be) from a series of cars built by AC&F.  Was wondering what might be gleaned of the manufacturer from the word “Cambria” stamped into the metal of the tank itself. 
 
Any clues?
 
Rob Kirkham  


Re: decal source(s)

Douglas Harding
 

Tim, yes Great Decals is still around, but the specific link for Don Halfield’s decals (which I provided in my message) no longer works.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: "Cambria" - stamped on tank car

Eric Hansmann
 

Cambria Iron Works in Johnstown, PA had a car works. It could be from them. 

I know the Western Maryland bought some steel hoppers from them back in 1902-03, the dawn of STMFC time. 

Here's some facility documentation. 

Eric

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX

On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Robert rdkirkham@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Hi there – doing some research on a preserved tank car at the Duncan Forest Discovery Centre.  The car is CPR 415833, built in the early part of the last century.  It is similar to (and may be) from a series of cars built by AC&F.  Was wondering what might be gleaned of the manufacturer from the word “Cambria” stamped into the metal of the tank itself. 
 
Any clues?
 
Rob Kirkham  


Re: bottles (was Scalecoat Paints Going Out Of Production)

Fred_Swa@...
 

Try googling images of 22cc glass bottles.  Lots of choices.  When Accupaint was getting hard to find I got  100 bottles from one of the Chinese companies. What I ended up having to do was find out the cap size then looking for the bottles to fit it.  What I got looked like the same round bottles Floquil used.  P-B-L is a good paint similar to Accupaint and finishes just as well.  And their paint is not airbrush ready.  In other words you still have to add thinner so 1oz of paint gets you almost 2oz. Every time I see airbrush ready I think pouring water in your Scotch bottle.  It's just not right.
Fred Swanson


"Cambria" - stamped on tank car

Robert kirkham
 

Hi there – doing some research on a preserved tank car at the Duncan Forest Discovery Centre.  The car is CPR 415833, built in the early part of the last century.  It is similar to (and may be) from a series of cars built by AC&F.  Was wondering what might be gleaned of the manufacturer from the word “Cambria” stamped into the metal of the tank itself. 
 
Any clues?
 
Rob Kirkham  


Re: Scalecoat Paints Going Out Of Production

Ken Adams
 

But Humbrol have a very large selection of British Railway colours.

Ken Adams


Re: Scalecoat Paints Going Out Of Production

Ken Adams
 

Look at the June RMC for a very interesting article on how to use artist acrylics as model paint.

Ken Adams


Re: Navy Box Car

Brad Smith
 

Here is an accurate 40' USN boxcar on eBay, except that it needs to have the underframe painted orange.  I think the majority of the bomb cars were the 50' door-and-a-half cars, painted the same.  Some had the supply base home painted on the car side.
 
 
 
Brad Smith
 
 
 

In a message dated 6/11/2015 6:07:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes:
On 6/11/15 4:02 PM, VgnRy43@... [STMFC] wrote:
> Thank you for the tips and leads which I will follow.
>
> Aubrey
>

Don't know where you are located, so this may not work for
you. Several 50 foot all steel door and a half USN box cars
are parked around the perimeter of a parking lot along US 50
in Fallon, NV. I have photos buried somewhere in this computer
and couldn't find them just now.

--
Rod Miller
Handcraftsman
===
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Repairs, Steam Loco Building, More     |   2016 Meet is May 5 - 7
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Re: Report on using my new Tamiya Tweezers

Nelson Moyer <ku0a@...>
 

Not anymore. They come from Pakistan, Indonesia, India, and all the other
places most hobby shop tools come from, and they're the same inferior
quality, which is one reason they don't stand up to repeated sterilization.
It's cheaper to discard than reprocess.



Nelson Moyer



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:28 PM
To: STMFC List
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Report on using my new Tamiya Tweezers





I recently had a close encounter with a feral cat. Long story short, I now
have two slightly used surgical scissors and the same for tweezers. And
thought hospitals still autoclaved and re-used these things!

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

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Date: Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 4:21 PM
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Report on using my new Tamiya Tweezers

I'd accidently lost my long time favorite tweezers in the trash a few months
ago and bought a non-Tamiya tweezers off Amazon after reading the reviews.
They were terrible. The points would cross if any pressure was applied and
they wouldn't pick up the smallest decals. I took this groups'
recommendation (from Bill Welch?) and bought a Tamiya set and they are
amazing.

In fact I bought another set just in case the first were misplaced, stolen
by the wife or accidently tossed.

Thanks for the recommendation,
Charlie Duckworth


What color are these?

jayrs9
 

In Patrick Wider's article on U.S.R.A. single sheathed box cars in volume 17 of PR Cyclopedia he show two pictures (page 11) of some of prototypes that were lettered with US and had numbers 000000.  As these are black and white photos, does anyone know what color they were actually were before they were repainted and turned over to a particular railroad?

Thanks,
Jay Ruppel



Re: Navy Box Car

Rod Miller
 

On 6/11/15 4:02 PM, VgnRy43@aol.com [STMFC] wrote:
Thank you for the tips and leads which I will follow.

Aubrey
Don't know where you are located, so this may not work for
you. Several 50 foot all steel door and a half USN box cars
are parked around the perimeter of a parking lot along US 50
in Fallon, NV. I have photos buried somewhere in this computer
and couldn't find them just now.

--
Rod Miller
Handcraftsman
===
Custom 2-rail O Scale Models: Drives, | O Scale West / S West
Repairs, Steam Loco Building, More | 2016 Meet is May 5 - 7
http://www.rodmiller.com | http://www.oscalewest.com


Re: Navy Box Car

VgnRy43@...
 

Thank you for the tips and leads which I will follow.
 
Aubrey


Re: bottles (was Scalecoat Paints Going Out Of Production)

James E Kubanick
 

Tim,

Thanks for that suggestion. I have been using MEK to thin my contact cement but have been mixing on an as- needed basis. I had doubts that this bottle would be MEK resistant, but will give it a try based on your suggestion.I need to keep a supply of diluted contact cement on hand.

Sorry you could not find a satisfactory paint bottle there.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV



On Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:33 PM, "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Jim

No paint bottles... but this bottle is useful! I dilute (thin) my contact cement
with acetone & MEK so this would be a very good bottle for that mixture. And it's
cheap so when the mix is used up, just toss the bottle.

http://www.sciplus.com/p/2-OZ-PLASTIC-BOTTLE-WITH-BRUSH_55456

Tim O'

>Tim,
>Try American Science and Surplus @ www.sciplus.com.
>
>Jim Kubanick




Re: decal source(s)

David Sieber
 

Tony, et al,
 
     Until retiring last year, Ken Goudy offered decals (not waterslide, but thin vinyl stickers) for MANY common carriers and commercial companies, scaled for 1/87 trucks, trailers, and semitrailers of various eras and different lengths - but he has indeed retired.  Good news is, his granddaughter, Christie, took over the business and is offering HO truck decals at:
http://store.graphicsdemand.com/  She has many lettering schemes in different categories for US/Canadian modelers of the transition era though modern day.  The web site includes a gallery of some HO trucks and trailers lettered with her decals, mostly modern examples, but also transition trailers and even a Greyhound bus.  She also offers custom lettering with a reasonable design fee (see her web site).  Common carriers of the '50s - '60s of particular interest to me are:  Los Angeles - Seattle Motor Express, West Coast Fast Freight, and Delta Lines.

HTH, Dave Sieber, Reno NV


next Kadee tab-sill 50 foot PS-1

Tim O'Connor
 

I really like these. A lot. I got the first one too, Missouri Pacific.

http://www.kadee.com/month/future/6378l.jpg

Tim O'Connor


Re: bottles (was Scalecoat Paints Going Out Of Production)

Tim O'Connor
 

Jim

No paint bottles... but this bottle is useful! I dilute (thin) my contact cement
with acetone & MEK so this would be a very good bottle for that mixture. And it's
cheap so when the mix is used up, just toss the bottle.

http://www.sciplus.com/p/2-OZ-PLASTIC-BOTTLE-WITH-BRUSH_55456

Tim O'

Tim,
Try American Science and Surplus @ www.sciplus.com.

Jim Kubanick


Re: bottles (was Scalecoat Paints Going Out Of Production)

Douglas Harding
 

Tim I just drilled a hole in the cap of a favorite paint jar and added the appropriate siphon tube/fitting for my airbrush. Now I can use the bottles my favorite paint comes in. And I have a steady supply as I use up paint.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: decal source(s)

Tim O'Connor
 

Doug

http://www.greatdecals.com/ -- works for me

Tim O



At 6/11/2015 05:44 PM Thursday, you wrote:


Found him: spelling is an L followed by two Fs.
Donald R. Halffield, Sr.  
HO Decals           
3 North 897 Ferson Creek Road, St. Charles, IL 60174-1133 
(630) 584-2685  don101724@...  
http://www.greatdecals.com/Halfield.htm
However the great decals website link no longer works, and Don�s decals are no longer listed. So he may no longer be active producing or selling. He use to come to Naperville and Burlington Route Historical Society meets, but I have not seen him in last few years.
 
Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: Scalecoat Paints Going Out Of Production

 

Tim – Well said. – Al Westerfield
 

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Scalecoat Paints Going Out Of Production
 
 


2. The price of hobby paints is beyond the definition of RIDICULOUS! I purchased three one-half
ounce bottles of Model Master acrylic paints from a local craft store chain. $3.99 per bottle =
about $1020 per gallon. I continue to ask myself, how that manufacturer can justify such a price.

----------------------------------------------

I was friends with George Bishop the owner of Accupaint. At that time I think
the "retail price" was about $3 a bottle. Walthers paid about 55% that much and
then sold it to dealers for 60% as much -- $1.80 a bottle, for the standard 40%
markup.

George received the paint in large cans from the manufacturer -- enough to make
250 bottles of paint. He would thin the paint before bottling -- so I think he
used about 1 gallon of paint plus 1 gallon of thinner to create ~250 bottles at
$1.80 == $450 of revenue. I think his price was around $100 a gallon. If he had
bought 500 gallons at a time, like most customers for that paint, his cost would
have been far lower. But 500 gallons would have lasted 20 lifetimes for one color.

He had about (roughly) 100 colors -- that would be 25,000 bottles maximum inventory
but he was usually out of stock of at least 2/3 of the colors and the other colors
would be at less than 1/3 stock -- so maybe he had 3,000 bottles on hand. Walthers
would refill weekly with orders for as few as 6 bottles !! (I kid you not.) In his
best year he told me he sold about $20,000 of paint -- about 11,000 bottles, or
roughly 44 color-runs of 250 bottles per color. Which works out to a 27-month
turnover of his line in his BEST year. His slower years were much, much slower,
probably less than 1/4 as much paint. He had a decal business too, plus rental
income, and a small hobby shop ... His parents had left him a piece of land and
that sustained him.

Anyway the point of this exercise is to say that (1) the PROFIT MARGIN is nominally
high but (2) many hobby paints are small businesses and no one is really getting rich.
Vallejo and Tamiya and RPM (Testors/Floquil/etc) are larger empires that cater to
segments that spend a lot more on paint than model railroaders do!

Tim O'Connor


Re: bottles (was Scalecoat Paints Going Out Of Production)

Tim O'Connor
 


tops are too wide -- but you've got the right idea. :-)

Tim O'


Will these do?

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-17073M/Jars/1-oz-Straight-Sided-Glass-Jars-with-Metal-Lid

Dave Owens
West Hartford, Conn.

Does anyone know of a source for good 1 oz paint bottles in bulk -- like 100 bottles for 50 cents each?

It really irritates me paying 500% markup for such a simple item. I found one source online for 30 cents each
but the bottles had very narrow tops (like Vallejo paint bottles) and I prefer wider openings that will fit my
airbrush siphon tops.

I like to mix my own colors! :-)

Tim O'Connor

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