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Re: Boxcar Images

Eric Hansmann
 

The Digital Commonwealth site seems to have a better image viewer. If you go to the link and click on the image you can zoom in. While zooming, the photo is adjusted for clarity. I have not been able to get as sharp an image using Photoshop and the download through the BPL Flickr site. As far as I can tell, the images are the same size and quality, but the viewer on the Digital Commonwealth site offers a better overall view.

 

You should check out the New Haven yard image on the Digital Commonwealth site.

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:q524kk66c

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX

 

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:02 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Boxcar Images

 




Eric, that is also from the Boston Public Library's Flickr site.

To fetch the HIGHEST RESOLUTION from Flickr you have to click on the "download" icon on the
lower right and save the image to your hard drive. When you click on the icon it will show you all
of the sizes available. This is the same mechanism that is used by Yahoo groups when attachments
are put into emails -- not surprising since Yahoo owns Flickr.

With ANY photo on the web, just copy the URL of the photo to your clipboard (^C). Then open a tab
on Google Images https://www.google.com/imghp and click on the little camera icon -- then paste
the URL into the search window. Voila ! Every web site with that image will appear.

Tim O'Connor



Re: Boxcar Images

Tim O'Connor
 


Eric, that is also from the Boston Public Library's Flickr site.

To fetch the HIGHEST RESOLUTION from Flickr you have to click on the "download" icon on the
lower right and save the image to your hard drive. When you click on the icon it will show you all
of the sizes available. This is the same mechanism that is used by Yahoo groups when attachments
are put into emails -- not surprising since Yahoo owns Flickr.

With ANY photo on the web, just copy the URL of the photo to your clipboard (^C). Then open a tab
on Google Images https://www.google.com/imghp and click on the little camera icon -- then paste
the URL into the search window. Voila ! Every web site with that image will appear.

Tim O'Connor



Thanks for sharing, Tim. You have had much better search luck. I spent nearly 60 minutes yesterday searching via Google, the Boston Public Flickr site, and the LoC with no luck. The only consistent hit was the image on the original Boston blog link.
 
In any event, I just searched using the file name on that Flickr site and I found a slightly better quality image at the Digital Commonwealth site
https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:5h73qb36d
 
From this image, it seems the XL car has a reweigh of 11-24 while the X29 number is 570994. In comparing the XL trucks with the X29 trucks, there are similarities but not a definitive match.
 
Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX

Possibly on the Boston Public Library's Flickr page -- 1500x1168 original image (easily found
with Google Image search by the way)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/boston_public_library/6009193586/

Tim O'Connor

I downloaded the image of the box cars under the elevated and zoomed in on the lettering. The quality isn't good enough to catch a reweigh date but the trucks under the first X29 car seem to be the same as the arch bar trucks under the XL car. Outside of a builder photo, I have seen few in-service images of X29 cars with arch bar trucks. This X29 seems to be numbered 570844, which would be one of 2000 cars built in 1924 from AC&F lot 2765 (as per RPCyc 24). Here's a direct link.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8U5nbWfzKlM/TktEg6WhW2I/AAAAAAAADQg/a5ItsG49OsU/s1600/atlantic%2Bave%2Btrain%2Band%2Belevated.jpg
 
I searched for a better quality image at the Boston Public Library and the Library of Congress digital archives but had no luck. Does anyone know where this image originated?
 
Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX


Re: SP GS gondola decals

Steve Haas
 

<<If you could furnish me good photos and data measurements I would consider doing the SP gondola.  I don't have anything in SP at this time.>>

 

 

I’ve got a couple of these cars that I could use decals for, too!

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

 

Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA

 


Re: Boxcar Images

Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks for sharing, Tim. You have had much better search luck. I spent nearly 60 minutes yesterday searching via Google, the Boston Public Flickr site, and the LoC with no luck. The only consistent hit was the image on the original Boston blog link.

 

In any event, I just searched using the file name on that Flickr site and I found a slightly better quality image at the Digital Commonwealth site

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:5h73qb36d

 

From this image, it seems the XL car has a reweigh of 11-24 while the X29 number is 570994. In comparing the XL trucks with the X29 trucks, there are similarities but not a definitive match.

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX

 

 

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:32 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Boxcar Images

 



Eric

Possibly on the Boston Public Library's Flickr page -- 1500x1168 original image (easily found
with Google Image search by the way)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/boston_public_library/6009193586/

Tim O'Connor




I downloaded the image of the box cars under the elevated and zoomed in on the lettering. The quality isn't good enough to catch a reweigh date but the trucks under the first X29 car seem to be the same as the arch bar trucks under the XL car. Outside of a builder photo, I have seen few in-service images of X29 cars with arch bar trucks. This X29 seems to be numbered 570844, which would be one of 2000 cars built in 1924 from AC&F lot 2765 (as per RPCyc 24). Here's a direct link.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8U5nbWfzKlM/TktEg6WhW2I/AAAAAAAADQg/a5ItsG49OsU/s1600/atlantic%2Bave%2Btrain%2Band%2Belevated.jpg
 
I searched for a better quality image at the Boston Public Library and the Library of Congress digital archives but had no luck. Does anyone know where this image originated?
 
Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX



Re: SP GS gondola decals

Tim O'Connor
 

Norm I'm sad to hear that -- I've bought most of your HO scale sets
(which are all fairly oddball cars so I'm not surprised about slow sales)
and I'd be astounded if you couldn't sell 250 GS gondola sets -- I need
about 20 sets myself ...

http://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=899&Categoryid=32
http://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=900&Categoryid=32

And I have 5 HO scale resin cars of this type but no decals !

http://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=812&Categoryid=32
http://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=813&Categoryid=32

Tim O'Connor

Rick Leach has been very generous sharing his artwork with which I�ve been able to turn into some great decal sets. But my intrusion into HO has not proved viable with 250 sheet minimums so Protocraft has no plans to further expand the HO line. This would be a large capital outlay in itself and the addition to the O scale line each month takes it all. Regards, Norm Buckhart, Protocraft

Did Norm get the old Rick Leach decals? Rick's decal work was immaculate
and I think he had done decals for the San Juan O scale GS gondola.

Tim O'


Re: 70-ton ore cars in Utah - other nice images there too!

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Upon browsing thru, this site has some very nice steam era freight car images.
 
 
T&NO flat with converter load
 
 

ART reefer
 
 

SLSF 120841 boxcar
 
 

Gondolas (maybe PRR GR/GRa gons?)
 
 

SP single sheathed box
 
 

UP gon
 
 
 

UP and OSL box
 
 

WP box
 
 
 
 
Cudahy reefer
 
 

Reefer? Insulated box?
 
 

RI box
 
 

UP box
 
 

PFE reefers
 
 

LV box
 
 

FGE (script lettering) reefer
 
 

GN auto box
 
 

UP (?) auto box
 
 

SLSF box
 
 

PFE steel reefer
 
 

Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] 70-ton ore cars in Utah


Don, cool! I'd seen photos of GS gondolas loaded with iron ore from
his location but this is the first time I've seen 70 ton ore jennies.

Tim O'


  Columbia Steel Co.-Iron Mountain P.17 :: Utah State Historical Society - Classified Photographs


copyrights -- follow up -- an interesting variation

Tim O'Connor
 

I checked the "some rights reserved" link on the Boston Public Library site
and they allow free use of their photos under these conditions -- a much more
sensible approach IMO than the absurd "do not download" or "copy protected"
features that fool so many people

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/

Oh and here's a really nice shot of the New Haven's South Boston freight yard
in April 1948.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/boston_public_library/8701339789/in/album-72157627356059350/

Tim O'Connor


Re: SP GS gondola decals

Ted Waterhouse
 

Thanks Hubert. This would be great and I'll bet SP fans would love to build up some of these DA gon kits that are sitting around - myself included, of course. I personally don't have the photos and data to supply you but I'll bet some of the freight car experts in this group do. tw
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On Wed, 6/17/15, Hubert Mask maskisland@hotmail.com [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: SP GS gondola decals
To: "STMFC@yahoogroups.com" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2015, 6:43 AM


 









If you could furnish me good photos and
data measurements I would consider doing the SP gondola.  I
don't have anything in SP at this time. 
Hubert Mask
Mask Island Decals
Inc.
Maskislanddecals.com Maskisland@hotmail.com 
On Jun 17,
2015, at 9:36 AM, "Norm Buckhart norm@protocraft.com
[STMFC]" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
















 






Rick Leach has been very generous sharing his
artwork with which I’ve been able to turn into some great
decal sets.  But my intrusion into HO has not proved viable
with 250 sheet minimums so Protocraft has no plans to
further expand the HO line.  This would be a large capital
outlay in itself and the addition to the O scale line each
month takes it all.  Regards, Norm Buckhart,
Protocraft
On Jun 17,
2015, at 12:47 AM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@comcast.net
[STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

Did Norm get
the old Rick Leach decals? Rick's decal work was
immaculate
and I think he had done decals
for the San Juan O scale GS gondola.

Tim O'

>Ted,
>Norm Buckhart at
Protocraft has them in O scale, you may be able to convince
him to do them in HO, as he is expanding his HO decal line.
See protocraft.com
>John F. Pautz

























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Re: Boxcar Images

Tim O'Connor
 

Eric

Possibly on the Boston Public Library's Flickr page -- 1500x1168 original image (easily found
with Google Image search by the way)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/boston_public_library/6009193586/

Tim O'Connor



I downloaded the image of the box cars under the elevated and zoomed in on the lettering. The quality isn't good enough to catch a reweigh date but the trucks under the first X29 car seem to be the same as the arch bar trucks under the XL car. Outside of a builder photo, I have seen few in-service images of X29 cars with arch bar trucks. This X29 seems to be numbered 570844, which would be one of 2000 cars built in 1924 from AC&F lot 2765 (as per RPCyc 24). Here's a direct link.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8U5nbWfzKlM/TktEg6WhW2I/AAAAAAAADQg/a5ItsG49OsU/s1600/atlantic%2Bave%2Btrain%2Band%2Belevated.jpg
 
I searched for a better quality image at the Boston Public Library and the Library of Congress digital archives but had no luck. Does anyone know where this image originated?
 
Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX


Re: Sheet lead sources

Ted Waterhouse
 

I've been using lead fishing sinkers myself - mash 'em flat with a hammer and glue 'em into the ends of boxcar bodies. Works great for house cars but it's gons and flats that are the problem. Btw, checked Lowe's last night and, in Ventura, CA at least they have no idea of sheet lead. "We don't carry products with high lead content". tw
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On Wed, 6/17/15, Tom Cataldo cataldotj@gmail.com [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [STMFC] Sheet lead sources
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2015, 8:29 AM


 









what about mag wheel weight
for freight cars they work

         tom

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at
8:03 AM, Andy Harman gsgondola@gp30.com
[STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









At 11:38 PM
6/16/2015 -0400, you wrote:



>No more! I checked three local Home Depots and they
all have a new

>policy. You must buy the whole roll ($120 +/-) and you
must show a valid,

>state-issued roofers license.



They're afraid you're building a secret laboratory
that Superman can't see

into.



Andy


























--
Thomas  j Cataldo












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Rapido 37' reefers Ho scale

ken kinsman
 

Sorry for the bandwidth. I am not familiar with how yahoo groups works. I know there may be archival info concerning these reefer kits, but I can't seem to get into the archives even with my email linked to the group. If someone could point the way or chime in and answer the following I would greatly appreciate the help:



1) Are the paint schemes in the 1st release and 2nd release accurate for the companies represented? If certain ones are not which ones are wrong or incorrect?

2) Are the cars well made, track properly and properly weighted? Are they fragile or poorly glued and assembled?

I know there are great rivet counters out there. If the cars are fairly close in detail then that is good enough for me.What I am not looking for is a completely wrong car with a completely wrong paint scheme. 

Thanks in advance,

Ken


Re: Communications Between RR shops

Tom Vanwormer
 

An historic view.  In  1891 just after the ATSF took over the Colorado Midland the Midland sent bills to each car owner for all the repairs done in their shops in Colorado City and Grand Junction under rule 8 of the MCB (Master Car Builders Assoc.).  I suspect in most cases little money was exchanged as the railroads would "balance accounts" for the work done on each others cars.  Mostly money was exchanged by the private car owners for repairs, but the rest was mostly offset.
Tom VanWormer
Monument CO

caboose9792@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

 
 
In a message dated 6/7/2015 9:15:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes:

When a freight was being repaired in a Non-owners Repair Shops, i.e. sheathing being replaced: trucks being swapped out for whatever reason; etc., was there communications with the owner RR or were the repairs simply made and the owner RR invoiced. Was there a formalized agreement of some kind or was there simply "gentleman's" agreement. Was there a difference in wartime—WWI, WWII, Korea—vs peacetime?


Bill Welch

Bill and group,
    If your interested in the subject and want know more the book(s) to look at are the ARA or AAR code of rules for Interchange. It covers the methods of repair, acceptable repairs, prohibitions standard billing rates and methods. Not sure if this falls outside of the groups interest/acceptable topics as the question dives into accounting and regulatory issues so I'll end my comments.
 
Mark Rickert
 


Re: Sheet lead sources

Benjamin Hom
 

Tom Cataldo wrote:
"what about mag wheel weight for freight cars they work."
 
You're coming into the thread late.  The question on the table is how to add hidden weight to an open car (i.e., the Detail Associates gon).  Of course wheel weights work - they're just harder to hide in a gon, hopper, or flatcar unless you hide them inside a load.
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: Sheet lead sources

tjcataldo
 

what about mag wheel weight for freight cars they work

         tom

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Andy Harman gsgondola@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

At 11:38 PM 6/16/2015 -0400, you wrote:

>No more! I checked three local Home Depots and they all have a new
>policy. You must buy the whole roll ($120 +/-) and you must show a valid,
>state-issued roofers license.

They're afraid you're building a secret laboratory that Superman can't see
into.

Andy




--
Thomas  j Cataldo


Re: Sheet lead sources

Pierre Oliver
 

Do what I do.
Go to your local scrap metal dealer. They will have lots of lead. Pipe, old flashing, tire weights, etc. Dirt cheap.
Grab a propane torch and a cookie sheet and start melting.
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 6/17/2015 11:03 AM, Andy Harman gsgondola@... [STMFC] wrote:

�

At 11:38 PM 6/16/2015 -0400, you wrote:

>No more! I checked three local Home Depots and they all have a new
>policy. You must buy the whole roll ($120 +/-) and you must show a valid,
>state-issued roofers license.

They're afraid you're building a secret laboratory that Superman can't see
into.

Andy



Re: Boxcar Images

Dave Parker
 

Eric:  

I was also curious about the origin (and date) of the photos in this blog, but have not found much.  FWIW, the last image of the derailed B&M car #65146 is clear enough to reveal a reweigh date of 11-22, consistent with the lettering style of the car.  Great photo!

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA



On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:13 AM, "'Eric Hansmann' eric@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
I downloaded the image of the box cars under the elevated and zoomed in on the lettering. The quality isn't good enough to catch a reweigh date but the trucks under the first X29 car seem to be the same as the arch bar trucks under the XL car. Outside of a builder photo, I have seen few in-service images of X29 cars with arch bar trucks. This X29 seems to be numbered 570844, which would be one of 2000 cars built in 1924 from AC&F lot 2765 (as per RPCyc 24). Here's a direct link.
 
I searched for a better quality image at the Boston Public Library and the Library of Congress digital archives but had no luck. Does anyone know where this image originated?
 
Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX
 
 
 

From: STMFC@... [mailto: STMFC@... ]
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:51 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Boxcar Images
 


Bob says:
 
On Jun 15, 2015, at 12:39 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 
Neat photo!  Fox trucks on the B&M car, a PRR XL boxcar, followed by a PRR X29, with another early X29 2 cars farther back
 
Regards
Bruce
 
Bruce F. Smith            
Auburn, AL
"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
 
 



Re: Sheet lead sources

Andy Harman
 

At 11:38 PM 6/16/2015 -0400, you wrote:

No more! I checked three local Home Depots and they all have a new policy. You must buy the whole roll ($120 +/-) and you must show a valid, state-issued roofers license.
They're afraid you're building a secret laboratory that Superman can't see into.

Andy


Re: Boxcar Images

Eric Hansmann
 

I downloaded the image of the box cars under the elevated and zoomed in on the lettering. The quality isn't good enough to catch a reweigh date but the trucks under the first X29 car seem to be the same as the arch bar trucks under the XL car. Outside of a builder photo, I have seen few in-service images of X29 cars with arch bar trucks. This X29 seems to be numbered 570844, which would be one of 2000 cars built in 1924 from AC&F lot 2765 (as per RPCyc 24). Here's a direct link.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8U5nbWfzKlM/TktEg6WhW2I/AAAAAAAADQg/a5ItsG49OsU/s1600/atlantic%2Bave%2Btrain%2Band%2Belevated.jpg

 

I searched for a better quality image at the Boston Public Library and the Library of Congress digital archives but had no luck. Does anyone know where this image originated?

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX

 

 

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:51 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Boxcar Images

 



Bob says:

 

On Jun 15, 2015, at 12:39 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Neat photo!  Fox trucks on the B&M car, a PRR XL boxcar, followed by a PRR X29, with another early X29 2 cars farther back

 

Regards

Bruce

 

Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."

 

 


Re: SP GS gondola decals

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Sorry pressed wrong key.
Paul Doggett UK




Sent from Samsung mobile



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Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: SP GS gondola decals
From: "'paul.doggett2472' paul.doggett2472@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
To: STMFC@...
CC:


 

Arved 
          Check out this attached mask island are superb decals.
Paul




Sent from Samsung mobile

"Hubert Mask maskisland@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

If you could furnish me good photos and data measurements I would consider doing the SP gondola.  I don't have anything in SP at this time. 

Hubert Mask

Mask Island Decals Inc.


On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:36 AM, "Norm Buckhart norm@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Rick Leach has been very generous sharing his artwork with which I’ve been able to turn into some great decal sets.  But my intrusion into HO has not proved viable with 250 sheet minimums so Protocraft has no plans to further expand the HO line.  This would be a large capital outlay in itself and the addition to the O scale line each month takes it all.  Regards, Norm Buckhart, Protocraft


On Jun 17, 2015, at 12:47 AM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Did Norm get the old Rick Leach decals? Rick's decal work was immaculate
and I think he had done decals for the San Juan O scale GS gondola.

Tim O'

>Ted,
>Norm Buckhart at Protocraft has them in O scale, you may be able to convince him to do them in HO, as he is expanding his HO decal line. See protocraft.com
>John F. Pautz



Re: SP GS gondola decals

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Arved 
          Check out this attached mask island are superb decals.
Paul




Sent from Samsung mobile

"Hubert Mask maskisland@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

If you could furnish me good photos and data measurements I would consider doing the SP gondola.  I don't have anything in SP at this time. 

Hubert Mask

Mask Island Decals Inc.


On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:36 AM, "Norm Buckhart norm@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Rick Leach has been very generous sharing his artwork with which I’ve been able to turn into some great decal sets.  But my intrusion into HO has not proved viable with 250 sheet minimums so Protocraft has no plans to further expand the HO line.  This would be a large capital outlay in itself and the addition to the O scale line each month takes it all.  Regards, Norm Buckhart, Protocraft


On Jun 17, 2015, at 12:47 AM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Did Norm get the old Rick Leach decals? Rick's decal work was immaculate
and I think he had done decals for the San Juan O scale GS gondola.

Tim O'

>Ted,
>Norm Buckhart at Protocraft has them in O scale, you may be able to convince him to do them in HO, as he is expanding his HO decal line. See protocraft.com
>John F. Pautz


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