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SP pratt truss single sheathed box cars

ed_mines
 

Did some of these come from the factory with steel sheathed sides?


Ed Mines


Re: Kadee ACF 11,000 Gallon Insulated Tank Car

al_brown03
 

When was the Kadee car's prototype built?

 

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Kadee ACF 11,000 Gallon Insulated Tank Car

Tim O'Connor
 

Unfortunately us RPM'ers seem to have painted ourselves into a corner when
it comes to tank cars. Most tank car designs were highly specialized and cars
were produced in very small quantities. I could REALLY use some mid to late
1950's all welded tank cars anywhere from 8k to 19k in size but what are the
chances that anyone will produce one? With the exception of Atlas and Accurail,
the other manufacturers have been scared off from producing prototypical models
and then applying NON-prototypical paint schemes to those models to increase
sales and justify the tooling costs.

And even though I love this level of detail, I realize that we'll never see a
half dozen different cars at this level in what's left of our lifetimes.

I guess I'm just gonna have to dress up some old AHM tank cars... :-) Dennis
how about it, a nice Accurail tank car?

Tim O'Connor

It seems like we still need models of smaller capacity tank cars e.g. 6,000-gal
to 8,000-gal. at this quality of tooling.
Bob Witt


Re: Dunnage Toolbox?

Douglas Harding
 

Of even equal or greater interest is:

1)      the paper lining in the car. I don’t recall seeing reefers lined with paper.

2)      The clip board with papers hanging on the wall behind the box in question.

3)      The tack strip holding up the paper, and from which the box in question is hung.

4)      The size of the door, it appears low and wide.

5)      The door on the opposite side is papered over, ie an unload one side only situation, meaning the car may need to be turned before being spotted.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Dunnage Toolbox?

thmsdmpsy
 

I had thought perhaps a cooper's tool kit but this answer makes more sense to me too.  Tom Dempsey, Spokane, WA


Re: Kadee ACF 11,000 Gallon Insulated Tank Car

rwitt_2000
 

It seems like we still need models of smaller capacity tank cars e.g. 6,000-gal to 8,000-gal. at this quality of tooling.

Bob Witt


Re: Dunnage Toolbox?

Patrick Wade
 

From the point on the hammers in the hanging tool box perhaps they are used to break up any large chunks of ice.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:02 AM, Barry Bennett barrybennetttoo@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Looks to me more like a workman's toolbox that has been hung by a convenient nail to keep it from being under foot.

Barry Bennett
Coventry, England.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:19 AM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

This is link to an undated photo from the Los Angeles Public Library digital archives:

 

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics28/00063554.jpg

 

It shows a worker top icing head lettuce in a refrigerator car. To the right, hanging on the wall, appears to be a tool box. Would this have been a common item used to secure dunnage and the lining in the refrigerator car?

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




Re: Kadee ACF 11,000 Gallon Insulated Tank Car

 




---In STMFC@..., <dhc628@...> wrote :

Thought this would have caught someones attention by now.


Jason Cook
New Haven, IN

There is discussion about this car on Atlas Rescue Forum:
http://atlasrescueforum.proboards.com/thread/3868/kadee-announces-gallon-insulated-tank
Since ACF made so many tank cars, it would be a good guess Kadee will come out w/ other reporting marks,
Andy Jackson
Bellflower CA
 


Re: B&O Modeler

Edward
 

Rich Chapin asked:

Last B&O Modeler Issue I downloaded was 2nd Qt 2014, vol 8, #2. Was this the last??

  

Yes, that was the last B&O Modeler issue posted.


Ed Bommer


Re: Kadee ACF 11,000 Gallon Insulated Tank Car

Tim O'Connor
 

looks very good. but what's with the miniature photos on Kadee's web site?
isn't it time for Kadee to notice that almost everyone has broadband now?

i'm really not overly excited. yet ANOTHER AC&F tank car, and moreover one
that is nearly identical to the Atlas model (albeit of higher quality).

Tim O'

http://www.kadee.com/ca/tank/tank.htm


Re: B&O Modeler

RICH CHAPIN
 

Last B&O Modeler Issue I downloaded was 2nd Qt 2014, vol 8, #2. Was this the last??

 

And yes Tim,  Mr. Sherman would be proud of your Wayback. Thx

 

Rich Chapin

 


Re: B&O Modeler

Monk Alan <Alan.Monk@...>
 

I last checked the B&O Modeler site a month ago (I check all the similar sites once a month) and downloaded the TWO  issues (2014-Q1 and 2014-Q2) I hadn’t got.

 

Shame it’s on hiatus and I hope it returns. I find all the society Modeler magazines very useful.

 

Regards,

________________________________________

Alan Monk

London, UK

 

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Re: Dunnage Toolbox?

Barry Bennett
 

Looks to me more like a workman's toolbox that has been hung by a convenient nail to keep it from being under foot.

Barry Bennett
Coventry, England.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:19 AM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

This is link to an undated photo from the Los Angeles Public Library digital archives:

 

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics28/00063554.jpg

 

It shows a worker top icing head lettuce in a refrigerator car. To the right, hanging on the wall, appears to be a tool box. Would this have been a common item used to secure dunnage and the lining in the refrigerator car?

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: NYC train consists

Scott H. Haycock
 

Thanks,Guy.

Since my modeling era is more recent than Terry's documentation, I'm working backwards from the most recent (1948) consist lists. As I work backwards, I'll keep my eye out for these rule changes.  



Scott Haycock


 

Scott wrote:
 
"Something I've noticed as I go through these consists is, every box car listed as "merchandise" has a 10 ton load weight. Considering that almost all of the other box cars have a more specific description of their lading, would it be safe to assume that these cars carry l.c.l. loads? Is the 10 ton listing just a shortcut to actually weighing these cars, as the nature of l.c.l. would almost never approach the load limit of the car?"
 
 
The minimum weight a car could transport in LCL service was controlled by the Office of Defense Transportation beginning with the issuance of General Order ODT No. 1 on May 1, 1942.  Between May 1 and July 1, 1942, the minimum was specified as 6 tons.  From July 1 to September 1, 1942, the minimum was increased to 8 tons.  From September 1, 1942, the minimum was increased to 10 tons continuing (as such) thru the duration of the ODT.
 
Exceptions to the provisions of GO ODT No. 1 were issued as General Permits.  The exceptions included; cars loaded with merchandise consigned to the Military (7 ton minimum), Westbound reefers returning to specific states (5 ton minimum), and box cars routed towards grain producing territories (5 ton minimum).  
 
There are examples of these exceptions within Terry's consists as well as cars carrying less tonnage prior to the May 1, 1942 Order.  
 
Regards,
 
Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada 
 



Re: NYC train consists

Guy Wilber
 

Scott wrote:
 
"Something I've noticed as I go through these consists is, every box car listed as "merchandise" has a 10 ton load weight. Considering that almost all of the other box cars have a more specific description of their lading, would it be safe to assume that these cars carry l.c.l. loads? Is the 10 ton listing just a shortcut to actually weighing these cars, as the nature of l.c.l. would almost never approach the load limit of the car?"
 
 
The minimum weight a car could transport in LCL service was controlled by the Office of Defense Transportation beginning with the issuance of General Order ODT No. 1 on May 1, 1942.  Between May 1 and July 1, 1942, the minimum was specified as 6 tons.  From July 1 to September 1, 1942, the minimum was increased to 8 tons.  From September 1, 1942, the minimum was increased to 10 tons continuing (as such) thru the duration of the ODT.
 
Exceptions to the provisions of GO ODT No. 1 were issued as General Permits.  The exceptions included; cars loaded with merchandise consigned to the Military (7 ton minimum), Westbound reefers returning to specific states (5 ton minimum), and box cars routed towards grain producing territories (5 ton minimum).  
 
There are examples of these exceptions within Terry's consists as well as cars carrying less tonnage prior to the May 1, 1942 Order.  
 
Regards,
 
Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada 
 


Griffin Wheel Co.

Don Strack
 

While compiling some history about the Griffin Wheel iron wheel plant in Salt Lake City (1927-1960), I was able to borrow a copy of the book "Griffin Wheel Company, The First Hundred Years, 1877-1977" by way of interlibrary loan. Its a nice book, and includes a milestone timeline of the development of the iron railroad wheel, and Griffin's development of the cast steel railroad wheel that replaced the iron type.


I have created a web page to capture the history of the Salt Lake City plant, and the plain text of the book itself, which includes numerous photos. The book is a generic corporate history, with lots of white space and modern graphic design. It is printed on rough-finish cream-colored paper, so the photos do not scan very well, but I was able to capture the text, which is very good reading.


I leave it to someone who knows much more about railroad wheels to make comments about the accuracy of the book's text, and Griffin's place in the history of railroad wheels.


http://www.utahrails.net/industries/griffin-wheel.php


Don Strack



Re: Southern Boxcar Herald Laments

Bill Welch
 

Speedwitch does a comprehensive set of Southern decals that includes the Aluminum version of the Southern herald.

Bill Welch


Re: Southern Boxcar Herald Laments

Tony Thompson
 

Garth Groff wrote:

 

On thing stood out right away to me. The herald on 10048 built in 1938 and photographed in 1945 (page [33]) is quite different from the others. The slogan "The Southern serves the South" is of a large style and nearly fills the entire space between the two rings. The slogans on 22423 on the same page, 27000 (page [34]) and 30579 (page [35]) are in much smaller style and do not fill the rings. 30579 was built in 1951/52 and appears in original paint. 27000 was repainted circa 1958. Another car, 330219, a 1946-built car shown in 1953 also has the smaller lettering.


     Garth, I touched on this in my column in _Model Railroad Hobbyist_ for March 2015, which included a prewar and a postwar Southern box car. The herald changed very noticeably, as you say, in 1945.


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Dunnage Toolbox?

thecitrusbelt@...
 

This is link to an undated photo from the Los Angeles Public Library digital archives:

 

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics28/00063554.jpg

 

It shows a worker top icing head lettuce in a refrigerator car. To the right, hanging on the wall, appears to be a tool box. Would this have been a common item used to secure dunnage and the lining in the refrigerator car?

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Kadee ACF 11,000 Gallon Insulated Tank Car

Jason C
 

Thought this would have caught someones attention by now.





Jason Cook
New Haven, IN

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