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Re: Rattle can boxcar red

Pierre Oliver
 

Check out the primer red colours. There seems to be a good variety in that colour
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 8/23/15 6:58 PM, ron.merrick@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

I have often felt that it's too much trouble to get out the airbrush when I'm painting small detail parts, for instance trucks and couplers.  I may paint, for instance, a dozen Kadee couplers by putting them on masking tape so the business end sticks out, or a couple pairs of trucks for current projects, by whipping out the rattle can. 

Black, no problem.  In the post-Floquil world, I have Testors Model Master and even Krylon flat black that work perfectly well. 

Boxcar red, ummmm.  I have a dwindling supply of a couple of cans of Floquil, but I'd like to convert for future use.  And, even better, would be if there are a couple other reds available.  At least, for a steam-era modeler, those blacks and reds are pretty much the color palette for bulk painting.

All I see in the various paint lines are really red reds, tending toward fire engine red.  Even the military lines don't seem to have much.  And most of these colors are gloss, which I would rather not use.  I've found a couple of Testors colors in a bottle, which suit me pretty well for painting underframe details, lift bars and so on.  And, I'm primarily using Tru-Color for general brush painting.  But couplers and trucks, especially, really need to be sprayed. 

Bear in mind, I can't see reds very well due to my colorblindness, which is a specific type that doesn't pick up reds.  I also can't see pastels and fine color variations very well, so I need more help than average. 

I've read some previous threads on this issue and didn't really find anything that was of much use to me, for the rattle can problem.  Suggestions are welcome.

Ron Merrick




Rattle can boxcar red

mopacfirst
 

I have often felt that it's too much trouble to get out the airbrush when I'm painting small detail parts, for instance trucks and couplers.  I may paint, for instance, a dozen Kadee couplers by putting them on masking tape so the business end sticks out, or a couple pairs of trucks for current projects, by whipping out the rattle can. 

Black, no problem.  In the post-Floquil world, I have Testors Model Master and even Krylon flat black that work perfectly well. 

Boxcar red, ummmm.  I have a dwindling supply of a couple of cans of Floquil, but I'd like to convert for future use.  And, even better, would be if there are a couple other reds available.  At least, for a steam-era modeler, those blacks and reds are pretty much the color palette for bulk painting.

All I see in the various paint lines are really red reds, tending toward fire engine red.  Even the military lines don't seem to have much.  And most of these colors are gloss, which I would rather not use.  I've found a couple of Testors colors in a bottle, which suit me pretty well for painting underframe details, lift bars and so on.  And, I'm primarily using Tru-Color for general brush painting.  But couplers and trucks, especially, really need to be sprayed. 

Bear in mind, I can't see reds very well due to my colorblindness, which is a specific type that doesn't pick up reds.  I also can't see pastels and fine color variations very well, so I need more help than average. 

I've read some previous threads on this issue and didn't really find anything that was of much use to me, for the rattle can problem.  Suggestions are welcome.

Ron Merrick



Re: Roundhouse 25' tank car

Steve and Barb Hile
 

This is one that I have done.  See

 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/STMFC/photos/photostream/lightbox/1836194381?orderBy=mtime&sortOrder=desc&photoFilter=ALL

 

for before painting and

 

http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/image/157079725

 

for it at Collinsville, last year.  It is an interesting project.

 

Regards,

Steve Hile

 

 

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
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To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Roundhouse 25' tank car

 

 

It’s interesting how someone has answered the questions about the “Old Timer” model before they could be asked. Has anyone built the model using the Shapeways frame and walkway? I have too many projects or I’d give it a go. Looks like it would make into a neat model.

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: PFE R-70-2 -> more questions

vapeurchapelon
 

Many thanks for your replies, Mike and Garth. I still hope that somebody else can answer to my other questions which are the very last ones to get the cars done.

Garth, many thanks, too for your nomenclature note. Yes I am living in Germany, so my English sometimes makes some "trouble".
With your hint on Red Caboose I remembered them well since I have built a lot of them - all PFE, different paint schemes. I still have to look for the left-over parts of the kits. Maybe I have luck. Actually there will be 8 of the R70-2 cars, and 3 of them will be of the rebuilt version.
I have had INTERMOUNTAIN to send me replacement parts for about 20 R-40-10 or -23 reefer kits since those parts were all defective. That was no problem. But it was about 7 or 8 years ago. I will try again (and let you know) when I don't have enough Red Caboose parts.

(The close fitting hatch-plugs I think came with the R-40-10 kits - these were grey rectangular blocks. Almost all of my PFE kits I built with open hatch covers. I just looks great to me.)

Thanks again!

Johannes Markwart


Re: Roundhouse 25' tank car

Joseph
 


I am part way through mine.  Hope to finifsh before the next millenium...
Joe Binish
No Hope , MN

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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Roundhouse 25' tank car

It’s interesting how someone has answered the questions about the “Old Timer” model before they could be asked. Has anyone built the model using the Shapeways frame and walkway? I have too many projects or I’d give it a go. Looks like it would make into a neat model.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


RPM op session Lisle/Naperville

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello Everyone,

For your planing concerning the upcoming Lisle/Naperville RPM meet on Oct 22 to 24, 2015, I will host a operating session on Sunday Oct 25 from 9 AM to 1 PM.  The prototype based, dual level railroad, has a 900 foot mainline for running freight and passenger trains at a relaxed pace.  No prior experience is necessary.  You will see many scratchbuilt and urethane models of freight cars on the railroad, along with common brass and plastic models.

To sign up, contact me off line and change the subject line to "RPM op session".

Ted Schnepf
railsunl@...


Re: Roundhouse 25' tank car

al_brown03
 

I've done it with the Shapeways frame; used the MDC walkway because I didn't know about the Shapeways one (which looks better). I'll talk about the car at Cocoa Beach.


Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.




Re: Central Valley NP stock car model

gary laakso
 

It's a 4 page article with model pictures only.

Gary Laakso
South of Mike Brock


On Aug 23, 2015, at 3:27 PM, fgexbill@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Tom or anyone knowledgeable, does the magazine article offer any history of the NP's stock cars or prototype photos.


Bill Welch


Re: Central Valley NP stock car model

Clark Cooper
 

Bill,

No, and no.

-Clark Cooper

On Aug 23, 2015, at 2:27 PM, fgexbill@tampabay.rr.com [STMFC] wrote:

Tom or anyone knowledgeable, does the magazine article offer any history of the NP's stock cars or prototype photos.


Bill Welch


Re: Roundhouse 25' tank car

Clark Propst
 

It’s interesting how someone has answered the questions about the “Old Timer” model before they could be asked. Has anyone built the model using the Shapeways frame and walkway? I have too many projects or I’d give it a go. Looks like it would make into a neat model.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Central Valley NP stock car model

Bill Welch
 

Tom or anyone knowledgeable, does the magazine article offer any history of the NP's stock cars or prototype photos.

Bill Welch


Re: G27 construction photo

Charles Peck
 

I see a pair of wedges inside the centersill space. From that I surmise that there is a temporary
spacer block in the space where the center sill will go upon assembly. Helps hold that space
open and true while construction of the bolster is underway. 
Chuck Peck in FL

On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 3:16 PM, 'Dave Nelson' Lake_Muskoka@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

At Hagley: http://cdm16038.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15017coll8/id/2372/rec/64

 

Why would the centersill spreaders for the bolster be installed before the bolster was set upon the centersill? 

 

Dave Nelson



G27 construction photo

Dave Nelson
 

At Hagley: http://cdm16038.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15017coll8/id/2372/rec/64

 

Why would the centersill spreaders for the bolster be installed before the bolster was set upon the centersill? 

 

Dave Nelson


Re: Central Valley NP stock car model

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 8/23/2015 9:11 AM, rwitt_2000@... [STMFC] wrote:
This topic was discussed several times on the list.

Here's is a comment from Ben Hom and the link to NP Society web page.  The Northern Pacific Railway Historical Association sells replacement ends for the Central Valley model to help correct the width of the model.

    If I were to buy these it would be good to know how many I am getting.  The picture shows a pair, quantity is one which could be a pair or a package.  The text says a package of 4 pairs (do four cars).

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Central Valley NP stock car model

thmsdmpsy
 

Ed's article in the Spring 2006 Mainstreeter is a little dated as he wrote it before creating the ends.  The ends come with instructions to follow if you don't want to get a copy of the article.  Tom Dempsey, Spokane, WA


Re: Rodger Ballast Car Company

genegreen1942@...
 

Bob,
Thank you.  The Rodger Ballast Car Company advertised that this version of their ballast car could easily be converted to a flat car or gondola.  Based on the drawing that may have been the case on the Erie.  Certainly the date built, builder, overall length and capacity match.  Inside length does not unless the Erie rebuilt them as gondolas.  The hopper bottom running parallel to the rails looks right for the car in question.  I appreciate the response.
Gene Green


---In STMFC@..., <rwitt_2000@...> wrote :

Gene,

Is it more like this one from the ERIE diagram book on the Fallen Flags site?

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-13p52.gif

 Page 52 - series 3100 - 3199 & 4700 - 4799

Bob Witt


Re: Type 21 tank car - now the non-insulated ones

Mark Drake <markstation01@...>
 

It is the RTR version of their kit from the mid-1980s



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Yes, it appears to be a new, and somewhat large, tank placed on their existing 10000 gallon underframe.

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Re: Central Valley NP stock car model

rwitt_2000
 

This topic was discussed several times on the list.

Here's is a comment from Ben Hom and the link to NP Society web page.
 

The Northern Pacific Railway Historical Association sells replacement ends for the Central Valley model to help correct the width of the model. Additional details on the modifications are documented by Ed Ursem in The Mainstreeter, Volume 25-1, also available from the Society - Ben Hom

 

HO-Scale Stock Car Ends - Northern Pacific Railway Historical Association Company Store

 

Bob Witt


Re: Rodger Ballast Car Company

rwitt_2000
 

Gene,

Is it more like this one from the ERIE diagram book on the Fallen Flags site?

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie-13p52.gif

 Page 52 - series 3100 - 3199 & 4700 - 4799

Bob Witt


Re: Central Valley NP stock car model

Tom Madden
 

---In STMFC@..., <ed_mines@...> wrote :

> How hard is it to reduce the width of the model by more than 1/8 inch?


The late Ed Ursem, who created the beautiful patterns for the resin replacement ends, had an article in THE MAINSTREETER on how to do all the necessary mods. I'm not a member of the NP Society so don't know which issue, or whether it's still available. Hopefully one of our NP friends will chime in with the info.


Tom Madden



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