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Re: Roundhouse 25' tank car

Tony Thompson
 

I’m at NMRA in Portland so can’t look at my photo files, but I do have images of this car. It is definitely NOT the Roundhouse old-time car, and the paint scheme includes the Richfield emblem of the stylized eagle, never applied to tank cars in service.

Tony Thompson

On Aug 26, 2015, at 8:55 AM, timken2626@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

I remember seeing a tank car similar to the Roundhouse one some 30 years ago at the railroad museum in MacArthur Park in Los Angeles.  As I recall, it was painted for Richfield Oil Co.  Does anyone know if this is a UTL "X" car as being discussed, and is the paint scheme authentic?

Chuck Soule



Re: Roundhouse 25' tank car

Chuck Soule
 

I remember seeing a tank car similar to the Roundhouse one some 30 years ago at the railroad museum in MacArthur Park in Los Angeles.  As I recall, it was painted for Richfield Oil Co.  Does anyone know if this is a UTL "X" car as being discussed, and is the paint scheme authentic?

Chuck Soule


Re: Bondic Adhesive

Charles Peck
 

When adhering one opaque piece to another opaque piece, how can the center area
become hardened when the UV light cannot reach it?
Chuck Peck in FL 

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:52 AM, jeralbin@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

I have been using, when the need arises, Solarez UV-cure Fly Tying Resins. One three pack comes in thin hard, thick hard and flex grades in 5 gram tubes. This brand and type resin cures hard, not sticky like some I have tried. For the UV source, I picked up a cheap dental 5 watt wireless LED curing light 2000mw on Amazon. I also have a different wavelength UV flashlight. Regards...Jerry Albin, Homer Glen, Illinois




Milwaukee Road Ribside Box Car

gtws00
 

Hello, I am looking for information on Brakes as used on the various Milwaukee Ribside Cars and the correct type of slack adjuster. I read that the slack adjusters where Royal, is this correct and how are they mounted?  Are there any  drawings or photos available of the underside showing the Brake Components and Slack Adjuster?
Thanks
George Toman



Books for CP Boxcars

Scott
 

 There any "go to" books or magazine articles for CP cars Single sheathed box cars?  Looking for information on car number 176743 I found a picture of surfing around the internet.

 

Thanks

Scott McDonald


Re: Bondic Adhesive

jeralbin@...
 

I have been using, when the need arises, Solarez UV-cure Fly Tying Resins. One three pack comes in thin hard, thick hard and flex grades in 5 gram tubes. This brand and type resin cures hard, not sticky like some I have tried. For the UV source, I picked up a cheap dental 5 watt wireless LED curing light 2000mw on Amazon. I also have a different wavelength UV flashlight. Regards...Jerry Albin, Homer Glen, Illinois



Re: Branchline reefer kit/ART

ed_mines
 

thanks; yup, outside metal roof


advice well taken


ed mines


Re: Roundhouse 25' tank car

John Hile
 

Steve,

Thanks for this nice info summary.  I appreciate it.

John Hile
Blacksburg VA


Looking for weathering article

Richard Stern
 

My memory is failing me - I am looking for an article on weathering a silver, outside braced wood Georgia RR box car.  I think it was in Model Railroad Hobbyist (but not sure) about a year ago.  I have done web searches but haven't come up with anything.  Thanks for your help.  

Rick 


Re: DL&W 51000 Series Boxcars

MDelvec952
 


The ends on this series of car were brown. The black ends didn't start until the 54000-series.  The running boards should be wood.

The years 1953-1955 were squarely in the Phoebe Snow billboard era and non-billboard cars then were old and rare. Mid-1955 began the bigger bolder billboard

I wasn't crazy about the artwork or paint on the Branchline cars, so I never bought one, favoring the many IMWX cars that were already in my collection at the time.

Happy modeling, John,                    ....Mike Del Vecchio


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Subject: [STMFC] DL&W 51000 Series Boxcars

 
OK, let me try this here (cross-posted from DL&W Modeling site).

I have a pair of 51000 series AAR 1937 DL&W boxcars (Yardmaster -- layout quality).  They both came with black ends and roofs.  The second one, I just got today (51326) hasn't been built yet and I have spare Branchline/ Yardmaster ends and roofs that are unpainted.  I also squirreled away some Champ DL&W decals as they were closing up shop a few years ago.

The question is, for the 1953 -- 1955 time period that I model (pre-Lackawanna billboard) are the black ends and roofs correct?  Since I have spares and decals I can at least correct the second car and make it all brown.  Mike Del Vecchio, what sayest you?

Also, I think these cars had wood running boards, but the 1952 diagram book doesn't say (it does say they had diamond-plate metal brake platforms).

If the answer is brown, I will do this one right and then might go back and mask the roof and ends on the other one and try to correct it -- assuming they were not supposed to be black.

-- John


Bondic Adhesive

Paul Hillman
 

Saw today for the first time an ad for Bondic Adhesive. Sounds possibly amazing for model work. Stays fluid until set with UV light. Void-filling, sandable, etc. Checked it out a little. Not sure about all that it bonds with other than plastics ??? Looks expensive.

I'm sure someone on this group is familiar with it.

Paul Hillman


Re: Type 21 tank car - now the non-insulated ones

mopacfirst
 

Me again, after having had time to review my inventory of Type 21 plain ol' ordinary non-insulated tank cars.

I have two or three SHPX 10000 series tank car kits with duplicate numbers, probably from the first run.  I'm willing to part with these if anyone is interested.  They're low numbers in that series.

mopacfirst at yahoo dot com, offline please.


Ron Merrick


DL&W 51000 Series Boxcars

John Sykes III
 

OK, let me try this here (cross-posted from DL&W Modeling site).


I have a pair of 51000 series AAR 1937 DL&W boxcars (Yardmaster -- layout quality).  They both came with black ends and roofs.  The second one, I just got today (51326) hasn't been built yet and I have spare Branchline/ Yardmaster ends and roofs that are unpainted.  I also squirreled away some Champ DL&W decals as they were closing up shop a few years ago.


The question is, for the 1953 -- 1955 time period that I model (pre-Lackawanna billboard) are the black ends and roofs correct?  Since I have spares and decals I can at least correct the second car and make it all brown.  Mike Del Vecchio, what sayest you?

Also, I think these cars had wood running boards, but the 1952 diagram book doesn't say (it does say they had diamond-plate metal brake platforms).

If the answer is brown, I will do this one right and then might go back and mask the roof and ends on the other one and try to correct it -- assuming they were not supposed to be black.

-- John



Re: Roundhouse 25' tank car

John
 

The UTL 'X' cars were produced in various capacities for 10 years or so beginning around 1905.  As I model that era these cars are of interest to me.  The only drawing I have found so far of one is the nominal 6000 gallon car in the 1906 CBD.  The Roundhouse kit is based in this drawing but its frame leaves much to be desired.  
The Austin underframe on Shapeways is a very accurate rendition based on the CBD drawing.  It was designed in response to a discussion of the inaccuracies of the Roundhouse kit on the Yahoo Early Rail group.  It is intended to be used with the Roundhouse tank.  However, the Roundhouse tank is maybe 9 inches longer than shown in the CBD drawing. The length of the Austin frame matches what is shown in the the drawing.  The Austin walkway, which is much nicer than the Roundhouse walkway, is sized to fit the Roundhouse tank so is also 9 inches long.  This makes the tank overhang the frame a bit at each end. I don't think it's too noticeable unless you are looking for it.  But the PSC tank is 2 feet longer than in the drawing and would require the PSC walkway to be used with it,  I think that this much extra length would be noticeable.  And using it might even make 2 of these cars so close coupled that interference in tight curves could be a problem.

I think the best bet for building one of these cars using a PSC tank will be to shorten it to match the drawing.  This will remove the end row of rivets but they can be replaced with some from Archer.  Their smallest size seems to be pretty close to what is on the PSC tank so I'm hoping they won't look out of place.  The walkway will have to be shortened, too.  The Austin walkway would be a better choice than the PSC walkway, as it is so narrow that ladders attached to it interfere with the trucks.  I found that out when I built a PSC frameless tank car as standard gauge.

John Bopp
Farmington Hills, MI



On Aug 24, 2015, at 2:30 AM, 'Steve and Barb Hile' shile@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

The answer to these questions is somewhat complicated.

 

The Shapeways underframe was (apparently) designed to work with the MDC tank (and it does.)  This represents one of the earlier builds of Class X cars by UTLX circa 1904 with 5 radial courses in the upper portion of the tank and a nominal capacity of 6100 gallons.  Later construction of both Class X and Class V (frameless, Van Dyke cars) appear to be more frequently 6500 gallon capacity and with 3 radial courses, instead of 5.  The Precision Scale tank models this configuration as some of these cars were the ones that were later equipped for use on the D&RGW narrow gauge lines.  This tank is slightly larger in diameter and shorter in length, so it doesn’t really match the Shapeways frame.

 



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Re: Branchline reefer kit/ART

Bill Welch
 

The BL reefer has a double board roof while most of the ART wood-sheathed reefers had an outside metal roof. Hatch covers were initially wood but they were refitted with metal. End sill is different. I know for a fact a Resin kit company is working on this car. I would wait.

Bill Welch


Branchline reefer kit/ART

ed_mines
 

How close is the Branchline  kit to ART reefers?


According to the Westerfield data sheet with kit 6501 the only major difference is roof hatch platforms.


Can anyone post/lead me to a picture of this roof?


There's a pretty good side view of this type of ART reefer in the reprint CBC.


Ed Mines


Re: Atlanta RPM

Bill Welch
 

I wish I could come this year but cannot do everything. For those unfamiliar the Atlanta/Kennesaw event this is a first rate RPM in a great location and the resources are first rate in terms of the Archives but you do need to plan ahead to have access to them. I also know that "Speedwitch" plans to be there.

I always stay the the Red Roof Inn at Exit 269 off of I-75 and there is a "Sweet Tomatoes" restaurant nearby. The RRI is about five miles from the RPM venue. The Burger Fi restaurant is very good with real milkshakes.

Have a great time everybody. See you next year.

Bill Welch


Re: PS PS-3 open top hoppers

rwitt_2000
 

Here's a link to the Pullman-Standard builder's photo of the Clinchfield hoppers.

Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery - CRR 52541

 

This site has many other links to freight cars photos; both builder and in-service.

Regards,

Bob Witt


Re: PS PS-3 open top hoppers

de Vries <bjdevries01@...>
 

Correction: of course I meant Moloco , or Nick Molo! Sorry, some short in the brain!
 

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: PS PS-3 open top hoppers
 
 

Wasn't Nick Moloco going to produce these as model?  Would like to see this coming
on the market!
Ben de Vries, the Netherlands

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 24 aug. 2015 om 15:19 heeft Staffan Ehnbom staffan.ehnbom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> het volgende geschreven:

 
The Great Northern  had
 
70000-70299 blt 1957
70300-70399 blt 1960
70800-70949 (blt 1957) leased from U,S,Ry.Eq.Co 1965, formerly in B&M 10000-10299 series.
 
Staffan Ehnbom


Re: PS PS-3 open top hoppers

rwitt_2000
 

My information states that there were two versions one with 2750 cu.ft. rated at 70-tons and after 1960 a slightly larger version with 2960 cu.ft. rated at 80-tons.

The Clinchfield had the 2750 type in the series 52500-52749 built in 1958.

Regards,

Bob Witt

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