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Re: Unloading pipe from a flat car

Douglas Harding
 

Gene a nice image. Coated corrugated pipe, used for culverts. Wonder what they had to stop them at the bottom of the makeshift ramp. Card was mailed 1941, but seller indicates the image is circa 1939. Certainly pre-Osha, no hard hats or safety harness.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: CONX Tankcar ID?

Douglas Harding
 

Look again Bruce. I can see rivets around the end of the first car. Blow up the photo. They certainly looks like a Type 21 car.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Unloading pipe from a flat car

Tim O'Connor
 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381427716456

This must have been Chuck Jones' inspiration for some of his zany
cartoons -- sitting on a tree branch and sawing away, from the wrong end!

Tim O'Connor

A photo or post card being sold on eBay (Item # 381427716456) shows pipe being unloaded from a Chicago Great Western flat car. The apparent unloading method, a man standing on top of the stack prying the pipe off to roll down a ramp, would be considered unacceptably dangerous today but it might be an interesting modeled scene or vignette on a model railroad set in pre-OSHA times.

Gene Green


Re: CONX Tankcar ID?

Tim O'Connor
 


Not welded IMO -- just 3 course. Plus the only two ICC 103's I've seen with
4 radial bands were General American, and these don't look like GATC to me.
But you're right the photos don't tell us -- Hopefully someone has a better
shot of a CONX 30xx tank car.

Tim O'


It is very hard to tell from these photos.  However, since the cars appear to be welded (I cannot see obvious rivets holding the ends on, for example) I highly doubt that they are Type 21s.  AC&F Built?  Certainly possible, maybe even likely.  But many of the key features that would help with the ID are hidden.

Regards

Bruce

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161848073581


Unloading pipe from a flat car

genegreen1942@...
 

A photo or post card being sold on eBay (Item # 381427716456) shows pipe being unloaded from a Chicago Great Western flat car.  The apparent unloading method, a man standing on top of the stack prying the pipe off to roll down a ramp, would be considered unacceptably dangerous today but it might be an interesting modeled scene or vignette on a model railroad set in pre-OSHA times.

Gene Green



Re: CONX Tankcar ID?

Bruce Smith
 

Tim, Mark,

It is very hard to tell from these photos.  However, since the cars appear to be welded (I cannot see obvious rivets holding the ends on, for example) I highly doubt that they are Type 21s.  AC&F Built?  Certainly possible, maybe even likely.  But many of the key features that would help with the ID are hidden.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Oct 5, 2015, at 12:45 AM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
The series that includes these numbers are all listed as 80,000 lb
capacity so probably 8,000 gallon tank cars. These look like ACF Type 21
to me. Some other cars (e.g. CONX 3617) were General American radial-course
tank cars so it's clearly a mixed series.

Tim O'Connor


I would appreciate an ID of the tankcar type of these CONX tankcars at Minturn, Colo., in October 1962. These would be in diesel fuel oil service, most likely originating at the Conoco refinery at Commerce City, Colo., which was served by CB&Q, UP, and D&RGW (via the Belt Line).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161848073581

Thanks, Mark Hemphill




Re: Writing off old cars was B&O "wagon top" boxcars

genegreen1942@...
 

From time to time the M&StL AFEs showing the retirement of old cars would include one or two car numbers with the comment "No record since . . . " showing a date some years prior to the AFE's date.  Perhaps the occasional missing car was possible but hopefully not common.
Gene Green 


Re: Andy Sperandeo

Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
 

I have looked to Andy in the past, and in memory now, as one whose authority as a skilled and authoritative railroad modeler were not only unquestioned, but were also exercised in his scribblings  on behalf of an appreciative readership. He was one of the very last of editors in our hobby who wrote authoritatively as a modeler -with subject expertise-  letting his skills carry his many writings and articles: modeling first, journalism second..  This is far different than the current fad of journalism first, and subject/modeling expertise second (if at all).  

He joins a distinct  pantheon of fellow skilled railroad modelers who also knew how to edit and publish  that include: Al Kalmbach, John Page, Frank Taylor,  Linn Westcott, Tony Koester, Gordon Odegard, Paul Larson, and Bill Schaumburg,  Undoubtedly I have left some off this list, but not many.

Denny 

 
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento, CA


Re: Andy Sperandeo

Marty McGuirk
 

I’m going to miss Andy greatly.


My perspective on him may be somewhat unique. I got to know him when I started at Classic Toy Trains and was flattered when he suggested that I might find MR a better fit for my modeling and interests. So I joined the MR staff and he became my boss.  He was a fantastic mentor and friend (Honestly, I never really thought of him as my "boss"). He remained my friend after I left the magazine.


His knowledge of prototype and model railroading was encyclopedic. And he willingly shared that knowledge with anyone who asked. And it wasn't "book knowledge" either - he was a dedicated and meticulous craftsman - everything from his freight cars to his benchwork were executed with precision.


He seemed somewhat shy and withdrawn at first blush - but to those of us blessed to know him and call him friend he was a fascinating, fun loving person who enjoyed a good joke (especially a pun) and could discuss any subject - food, literature, movies, and sports as well as railroading - with gusto. 

Rest well friend, and suffer no more,

Marty McGuirk


Re: CONX Tankcar ID?

Tim O'Connor
 


The series that includes these numbers are all listed as 80,000 lb
capacity so probably 8,000 gallon tank cars. These look like ACF Type 21
to me. Some other cars (e.g. CONX 3617) were General American radial-course
tank cars so it's clearly a mixed series.

Tim O'Connor


I would appreciate an ID of the tankcar type of these CONX tankcars at Minturn, Colo., in October 1962. These would be in diesel fuel oil service, most likely originating at the Conoco refinery at Commerce City, Colo., which was served by CB&Q, UP, and D&RGW (via the Belt Line).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161848073581

Thanks, Mark Hemphill


CONX Tankcar ID?

Mark Hemphill
 

I would appreciate an ID of the tankcar type of these CONX tankcars at Minturn, Colo., in October 1962. These would be in diesel fuel oil service, most likely originating at the Conoco refinery at Commerce City, Colo., which was served by CB&Q, UP, and D&RGW (via the Belt Line).


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DENVER-RIO-GRAND-WESTERN-EMD-F9-SET-1962-UNK-LOC-ORIG-KODACHROME-EXC-BB466-/161848073581?hash=item25aee59d6d


My apologies that the photo date is post-1960, but the cars surely aren't.


Thanks, Mark Hemphill



Re: Writing off old cars was B&O "wagon top" boxcars

riverman_vt@...
 

Jon,

    Have you forgotten the LaSalle & Bureau County fiasco of the early 1970's???
Seems to me they had a lot of "lost" box cars from other roads that suddenly got
repainted and relettered for their own road as I recall.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Eastern PA 2 Rail O Scale Train SHow and Swap Meet

Rich Yoder
 

Come one come all to the Eastern PA 2 rail O Scale Swap Meet and Train Show Saturday October 17th , Doors open at 9:00 am. The show is over at 1:00 PM dealers will be open until 1:00 PM  High railers welcome Admission at the door is $5.00 Wives, Children, and Active Military with ID are free! Come enjoy good Lancaster County hospitality and Amish style cooking. No smoking on the premises. Visit the Strasburg Railroad, Pennsylvania State Railroad Museum, or spend a night at the Red Caboose Motel.

Location: Strasburg PA Fire Company 203 W Franklin St. Strasburg PA 17579

https://maps.yahoo.com/#/place/?lat=39.98177331948242&lon=-76.18562579154968&q=203%20W%20Franklin%20St.%20Strasburg%20PA%2017579&bb=39.988070283629035%2C-76.19936943054199%2C39.975492218386044%2C-76.17188215255737&addr=203%20W%20Franklin%20St%2C%20Strasburg%2C%20PA%2017579-1542

 Please note that Rt 372 is closed over the Susquehanna River.  The only other crossing is in Havre de Grace, MD.


Bob Lavezzi - All About Trains (NJ) 

Jack Mc Garry - Allegheny Scale Models 

Joe Foehrkolb – Baldwin Forge 

Bruce Blackwood – Burrett Hobbies

Bob Buck-GSI- O/G Scale installations 

Bob Jones Models 

George Peckman – O Scale Supermarket

Brian Scace / Marty Brecbiel -  O Scale Trains Magazine 

Bob Heil – Sunset 3rd Rail / Golden Gate Depot

Ron and Ellie Rosenberg   -  Rons Books 
Marty Milner - Scale City Designs

Rich Yoder – RY Models


Sincerely,

Rich Yoder



Re: Andy Sperandeo

Bill Schneider
 

Although I’ve had the pleasure of operating with Andy just twice, I suspect that he would view the Yardmaster position as “good news”…. ;>)

 

He will be missed.

 

Bill Schneider

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 3:22 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Andy Sperandeo

 

 

Few could go in cold to a new railroad and smoothly operate a yard as well as Andy.

 

I think he would appreciate a variation of an old joke that I thought of when I heard the sad news…..

 

Frank Ellison appeared and told Andy, “I have some good news and some bad news for you.”

“The good news is that there is a great Model Railroad in Heaven and we operate on it every day…..the bad news is you’re Marked Up for Yardmaster next session”.

 

We’ll miss you, Andy!

 

Charlie Vlk

 


Re: Andy Sperandeo

Charlie Vlk
 

Few could go in cold to a new railroad and smoothly operate a yard as well as Andy.

 

I think he would appreciate a variation of an old joke that I thought of when I heard the sad news…..

 

Frank Ellison appeared and told Andy, “I have some good news and some bad news for you.”

“The good news is that there is a great Model Railroad in Heaven and we operate on it every day…..the bad news is you’re Marked Up for Yardmaster next session”.

 

We’ll miss you, Andy!

 

Charlie Vlk

 


Re: Andy Sperandeo

Bill Welch
 

I am so sad to hear of Andy's passing. What a sweetheart of a man. Very generous and helpful always, he helped me get some resources from the David P.Morgan Library at Kalmbach. It was great fun to see how much joy he received from operating one of the yards on Bill Darnaby's layout. I am rather indecisive about hats but Andy clearly was not. He had very good taste in hats and looked so good in them.

Bill Welch


Re: ART drawing

ed_mines
 

Larry, I'm happy to help.


Richard Hendrickson helped me many times over a 30 year period. I am merely continuing his tradition.


Given the opportunity I hope you will too.


Freight car content? What are those vertical posts called on the outside of gondolas and hoppers that we call ribs? What's a typical width in HO? I like 3 scale HO inches (approximately .035") better than .030" or .040".


Ed Mines


Re: Andy Sperandeo

Michael Palmieri
 

Andy was indeed a GREAT GUY.  I was fortunate enough to meet him almost 50 years ago and to see him regularly for a while.  I was a teenager and he was working at a local hobby shop while attending Loyola University, and later UT-Austin.  He was a valuable asset for this young modeler and railfan!

I last communicated with him for his 70th birthday, October 1.


Mike Palmieri - Fort Worth, Texas


Re: Andy Sperandeo

michaelEGross@...
 

So grieved to hear of Andy's passing.  Long before I had met him in person, I had come to know and admire him in the pages of Model Railroader and other publications.  He was both a gifted and inspirational modeler as well as a generous and loving man.  So long, Andy.


Re: "Lost cars" was: Re: Writing off old cars was B&O "wagon top" boxcars

Brian Termunde
 

A number of years ago, I came across an N Scale car that someone had done up as an LS&BC car. None of my friends understood why I was so eager to have it, and so I had to explain.

I do remember a write-up in RMC a long time ago, but I don't recall anything in Railfan or elsewhere.

More to our era, I recall reading in a book (and I don't remember what one - too many decades ago!) where a railroad lost a box car belonging to another railroad in some bad flooding. Well they refused to give up and continued to pay per diem on the car. Finally, supposedly according to this forgotten book, they found it in some farmers field. Apparently it ended up on his property and he confiscated it. The RR pulled it out of the field, repaired and repainted it and proudly returned it to the home road years later.

I make no claims as far as this tale being true or not, but the fact that I remember it years later, obviously it made an impression on me.

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, UT
 
"My Train of Thought left the station without me!"


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Re: Writing off old cars was B&O "wagon top" boxcars
    Posted by: 
MDelvec952@... railwriter
    Date: Sat Oct 3, 2015 1:38 pm
((PDT))


The LS&BC caper was talked about by railroad managers for decades.
Small world: A Conrail official I worked with was the PennCentral trainmaster at
the time who discovered a long string of these cars while taking a track check
at Kankakee, Ill., as it seemed the LS&BC wasn't exactly careful about painting
out the markings.  I got a grin when one of our steam-era freight car
manufacturers Kadee was offering PS-1s in an LS&BC patch job, keeping the memory
of it alive.

In the steam era, it was easy to loose freight cars, when
offices kept track of cars with index and punch cards.  I didn't believe it
either until I became a real trainman / conductor and you quickly realize that
in a yard you can only see a few cars at one time from one place. As a
trainmaster, I had to walk yards to verify track checks.  Even today with AEI
tags and scanners, cars get lost and trainmasters are sent to walk sidings and
yards where the car was last reported by scanners.  Oak Island Yard has a cyber
track 999 where errant cars are placed, that is a car that is printed out on
consist sheets but that car is not in the train, so that line-item sits on 999
in the computer until the actual car turns up. At least once a month a train
shows up on our interchange with a car that wasn't on the consist sheets, and
sometimes it's even a car that belongs at our location.

One figure rarely
seen on steam-era model railroads are those showing someone with a clip board
walking yard tracks and sidings               ....Mike Del Vecchio



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