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Re: PFE wood reefers & models

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Ed:

The best decals for the PFE refers are those from MIcroscale.  Dick Harley (A PFE Guru)  worked extensively
on this set and stayed on top of MIcrfoscale to insure that everything came out right.  I had thought that the Champ
Blue Ribbon set was the best, however, Dick poingted out many discrepancies with this set which were corrected
on the MIcroscale set.

There are two sets for different periods.  I do not have tghe number handy but will get it for you if you need help.

Bill Pardie


On Nov 13, 2015, at 8:41 AM, ed_mines@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

I'd like to model an R-30-11 PFE reefer circa 1946. The big PFE book and various ORERs show most of these cars to still exist at that time in their original height with short doors. Builders photos show these cars to have one less grab iron on the right side than R-30-13s. Was an additional grab iron added when these cars were

refurbished? Originally the 30-12s  also had one less grab iron on the right than the 30-13s.


Did the -16s use the same ice hatches as the -9s?


I put a Tichy "built up" underframe on a Red Caboose floor for a WP PFE car.


Although they are too short I put Yarmouth stirrup steps on the Red Caboose underframe and they look terrific.


I ordered a jumbo PFE decal sheet from a vendor reviewed in RMC (Portland Car........?). Never received anything back and my check was never cashed. Anyone else have similar experiences?


I see Intermountain now owns Red Caboose. Any word on Red Caboose kits or parts? What about Wegmann

PFE kits?


Ed Mines




NP SOO + GATX type30 Sunshine kits FS

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-
I have 2 each of Sunshine Models SOO and Northern Pacific box cars.I have one GATC type 30 GATX white decal.

2 Sunshine #78.3  SOO Sawtooth box car with Youngstown steel doors and Dreadnaught ends.1930s-1950s decals.

2 Sunshine #52.2 Northern Pacific 10000-13999 series of 40' double sheathed wood sided box car with NP circular roof. 1940s-1950s Monad decals.

1 Sunshine #87.1 GATC type 30 8K tank car with 1927-1960s white GATX decals.

All 5 kits are in un-molested mint condition and were purchased at Naperville; hence no mutilations of shipping tape, labels or postal damage.

One might consider purchasing at the same time a few Tahoe Model Works wheelset-less trucks with no added shipping charges if shipped together.

Offered for $45 each, which includes 1st class shipping with Kraft paper wrapping protection.  I accept checks and money orders. For a small fee, I also accept PayPal. I can be contacted off-list (please) at
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


apologies to the group for unintended message

Andy Carlson
 

Sometimes I overlook the source of an email which I respond to. Earlier I sent a message that obviously was not intended for the list. My apologies.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA







Re: Tank Car Models - Accuracy to Prototype

Tim O'Connor
 


nope, I sure don't! well, that's ONE ! :-)


At 11/13/2015 02:39 PM Friday, you wrote:


Tim O'Connor wrote:

I have dozens of photos, and have never seen one offline.

      You must not have the George Sisk photo at Kansas City in 1959, then, just to name a well-known source. (cottonseed oil in that case)

Tony Thompson 


Re: Tank Car Models - Accuracy to Prototype

Tony Thompson
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:

I have dozens of photos, and have never seen one offline. 


      You must not have the George Sisk photo at Kansas City in 1959, then, just to name a well-known source. (cottonseed oil in that case)

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Tank Car Models - Accuracy to Prototype

Tim O'Connor
 

Philip

I have dozens of photos, and have never seen one offline. However, they
were lettered conforming to AAR interchange standards. In 1959 the T&NO
still listed 296 tank cars in the ORER, and the SP listed 1,614 tank cars.
Also there is a note for a specific tariff regarding tank car gallonage so
the cars were listed in a tariff as well. Since they were not chemical
tank cars, they carried relatively low value products that did not travel
long distances -- petroleum products, mostly, plus liquid sugar (the "S"
on the domes).

Tim O'Connor


I apologize for the novice question, but were SP tank cars used in
interchange service, or did they never stray offline?
-Philip Lee


Mailed today-Intermountain Semi-scale 33" wheelsets 12 packs

Andy Carlson
 

Hi Bill-
Your package of parts was mailed this morning. USPS tracking # 9500 1110 0566 5317 3635 98
Thanks,
-Andy



From: "WILLIAM PARDIE PARDIEW001@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] $5 off-Intermountain Semi-scale 33" wheelsets 12 packs

 

HI Andy:

Hope you had a good week.  I willt\ake one pack of the semi scale wheel sets and three of the
Red Caboose roofs.

Pease refresh my memory on you address and a check will be in the mail.

Thanksfor you help.

Bill  (I really wanted to use caps)



On Nov 6, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Andy Carlson midcentury@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Hello-

I am again able to offer more new 12 packs of Intermountain HO semi-scale code 88 wheel sets in 33" diameter. IMRC #40052. MSRP $13.95/12 pack. (12 axles is enough for 3 freight cars)

My price is $9/12 pack, plus shipping of $2.85 and up.( Purchase 18 12-packs and I will pay the shipping in a USPS Priority box.) I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee I can accept PayPal.

If interested, contact me off-list (Please) at <midcentury@...>



Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



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PFE wood reefers & models

ed_mines
 

I'd like to model an R-30-11 PFE reefer circa 1946. The big PFE book and various ORERs show most of these cars to still exist at that time in their original height with short doors. Builders photos show these cars to have one less grab iron on the right side than R-30-13s. Was an additional grab iron added when these cars were

refurbished? Originally the 30-12s  also had one less grab iron on the right than the 30-13s.


Did the -16s use the same ice hatches as the -9s?


I put a Tichy "built up" underframe on a Red Caboose floor for a WP PFE car.


Although they are too short I put Yarmouth stirrup steps on the Red Caboose underframe and they look terrific.


I ordered a jumbo PFE decal sheet from a vendor reviewed in RMC (Portland Car........?). Never received anything back and my check was never cashed. Anyone else have similar experiences?


I see Intermountain now owns Red Caboose. Any word on Red Caboose kits or parts? What about Wegmann

PFE kits?


Ed Mines


Re: Tank Car Models - Accuracy to Prototype

Tony Thompson
 

Philip Lee wrote:

 
I apologize for the novice question, but were SP tank cars used in interchange service, or did they never stray offline?

     Certainly went off-line, and there are photos documenting same. Both general-service cars, and the cars in liquid sugar service, went off-line as needed. As Cyril Durrenberger mentioned, cottonseed oil was a product carried in these cars for decades. I have a photo from about 1960 of an SP car in such service. Many other commodities were carried also, including gasoline.
       About a third of the large SP fleet was used in company fuel service and did stay on-line. That leaves many hundreds of cars in general service.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Tank Car Models - Accuracy to Prototype

Philip Lee
 

I apologize for the novice question, but were SP tank cars used in interchange service, or did they never stray offline?
-Philip Lee



On Friday, November 13, 2015 11:27 AM, "jimbetz jimbetz@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Hi again,

I forgot to add that "if the prototypically closest tank car can
be changed/updated relatively easily" ... of course I will do
that. But, so far, I haven't done any "serious kitbashes" of
a tank car that would involve actions such as changing the
length of the tank or using a totally different frame. For me
it is a matter of "how much time will I spend to achieve
prototypical accuracy" because my trains are for Ops and
not for Show. I have done some serious kitbashes in the
past ... I just don't do them any more.

- YMMV (and I value your work/methods) ... Jim B.



Re: New items from Yarmouth Model Works

Tim O'Connor
 

Brian have you checked major hobby shops? Des Plaines has a huge
stock of etched parts. The Overland stock number was 2163. Also
Des Plaines owns the Centralia products so he may have some of those
etched parts.

Tim O'Connor

Any chance of doing ATSF caboose roof walks? Plano did them for Overland years ago, but neither seems to have interest in re-issuing them.

Thanks!

Brian Ehni


Re: Tank Car Models - Accuracy to Prototype

Jim Betz
 

Hi again,

I forgot to add that "if the prototypically closest tank car can
be changed/updated relatively easily" ... of course I will do
that. But, so far, I haven't done any "serious kitbashes" of
a tank car that would involve actions such as changing the
length of the tank or using a totally different frame. For me
it is a matter of "how much time will I spend to achieve
prototypical accuracy" because my trains are for Ops and
not for Show. I have done some serious kitbashes in the
past ... I just don't do them any more.

- YMMV (and I value your work/methods) ... Jim B.


Re: New items from Yarmouth Model Works

 

Any chance of doing ATSF caboose roof walks? Plano did them for Overland years ago, but neither seems to have interest in re-issuing them.

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

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Subject: [STMFC] New items from Yarmouth Model Works







While this maybe old news to some;
There are 3 new etched items on the Yarmouth Model Works website.
15 3/8" rung center ladders
Curved leg sill steps
Acid tank car platforms
Have a gander, might be something you're looking for.
And if you have a look at the kits listings, you'll see that we've hit a
milestone!
The CPR plywood sheathed AAR boxcar is almost sold out. If you've been
considering, get your order in now. There's only 4 left and then that'll
be it for that car.
Enjoy the day

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com








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New items from Yarmouth Model Works

Pierre Oliver
 

While this maybe old news to some;
There are 3 new etched items on the Yarmouth Model Works website.
15 3/8" rung center ladders
Curved leg sill steps
Acid tank car platforms
Have a gander, might be something you're looking for.
And if you have a look at the kits listings, you'll see that we've hit a milestone!
The CPR plywood sheathed AAR boxcar is almost sold out. If you've been considering, get your order in now. There's only 4 left and then that'll be it for that car.
Enjoy the day

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Tichy Tank Car with AB Brakes

Tim O'Connor
 


Good find Brian!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371449144890

Tim O'


Actually, there really were tank cars built to USRA drawings, at least the underframes.  Standard Steel Car Co. built a series of 8K gallon tank cars for the Gulf Refining Co. circa 1923.  Ted Culotta recently sold a builders' photo of GRCX 3200 on Ebay which I won.  Without a doubt, the car sits on a USRA designed underframe.

As for AB brake installation, see photo of GRCX 3293 on page 98 in Ted's Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual Vol. Two: Tank Cars.

This same photo can still be seen on Ebay in the completed listings.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


verify

Armand Premo
 

This is to verify my email address.Armand Premo armprem@yahoogroups


Re: All time Sunshine list

Mike Fortney
 

Sunshine Models HO scale resin freight car kits

Mike Fortney

 


Re: Hercules Tank Car Color?

Brad Smith
 

That was the color scheme. Those were tank cars not chemical tank cars with platforms. 

Brad Smith 

Sent from Brad's iPod

On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Barry Roth barry_roth@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I remember that when I was about eight years old, the StromBecker wood model of a Hercules Powder Co. tank car came with a red glossy paper tank wrapper, lettering in white as I recall.  (That's good enough for me.)

Barry Roth


All time Sunshine list

Dan Elwood <dpelwood@...>
 

Might someone remind me where the all time list of Sunshine models kits is located please?
Appreciate the help
Dan Elwood


Re: Tichy Tank Car with AB Brakes

brianleppert@att.net
 

Sorry Bill, what you made was a Pressed Steel Car Company built tank car.  Standard Steel Car Company made the USRA 8000 gallon copies.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

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