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Prototype Information: Front Range 40' ACF "early 40's steam" box car

monon@...
 

I have several of the former Front Range 40' ACF "early 40's steam" box car kits (part #4700) that I'm planning to use if there is an appropriate prototype.  I can't recall if this box car was the subject of modeling articles in earlier modeling magazines, and a search of earlier group messages didn't reveal any information.  Any information on prototypes for these box car kits would be greatly appreciated.

Sam Reynolds


Re: Gene Green

al_brown03
 

Gondolas built for copper concentrate service, mostly for SP and Santa Fe. I agree that it's a fine article, although most of its subjects were built after 1960.


Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Fw: Two Volume Set (combined 1600 pages) on Potomac Yard

Bill Welch
 

Try this, it should be RF&P HS company store: http://www.rfandp.org/companystore/#sheild

Bill Welch


Fw: Two Volume Set (combined 1600 pages) on Potomac Yard

joel norman <mec-bml@...>
 

PLEASE Can someone scan this ad(I don't get the magazine)so I can see what your talki about if its worth buying if we get a good report...
Thanks
Joel Norman

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:49 PM, joel norman wrote:


JOHN How much are these books????????????????????
Joel

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 9:13 AM, "'gary laakso' vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
A full page ad for the books is on the back of the cover of the Winter Classic Trains issue just out.  Volume 1 includes a chapter on handling perishables, including ice house operations, Fruit Growers Express facilities.   Vol 1 is 784 pages covering 1880 to 1920 and Vol 2 is 816 pages to the closing of the yard. 
 
Has anyone seen the books and can comment on their contents? 
 
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock





Re: Gene Green

Bill Welch
 

Al, would it kill you to drop a hint?

Bill Welch


Re: C&O box car paint schemes circa 1949

Curt Fortenberry
 


I only see one paint scheme being offered by Intermountain for the 1937 AAR car in C&O with the steam For Progress logo.  As shown here:

 


And this scheme does agree, I believe, with what Al is saying (steam logo, 1949 shop date).  The second 1937 scheme shows an original as-delivered scheme: HO Scale Models - 45793

 

Curt Fortenberry


Re: C&O box car paint schemes circa 1949

water.kresse@...
 

The first "steam" For Progress scheme began in 1948 with 15000-series PS-1 box cars and 79000-series 70-ton RB hopper cars being painted that way out of the factory.   So the body paint changes in 1949, if updated would depend on how much repainting went on.  I am away from home, and all my references, and we did an article on that years ago.

Al Kresse


From: "anycw1@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 3:51:28 PM
Subject: [STMFC] C&O box car paint schemes circa 1949

 

Can anyone help with the C&O paint schemes for box cars in 1949. The announcement by Intermountain of a  1937 car with Deco ends in two paint schemes made me curious as to when the "progress" scheme began to be applied. I'm also confused as to whether or not C&O box cars had black doors, roofs and ends.Some look like they did in B&W photos but most didn't. My modeling period is mid-1949. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Tony Wagner




Two Volume Set (combined 1600 pages) on Potomac Yard

gary laakso
 

A full page ad for the books is on the back of the cover of the Winter Classic Trains issue just out.  Volume 1 includes a chapter on handling perishables, including ice house operations, Fruit Growers Express facilities.   Vol 1 is 784 pages covering 1880 to 1920 and Vol 2 is 816 pages to the closing of the yard. 
 
Has anyone seen the books and can comment on their contents? 
 
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock


PRRP1 - L&N ARA Single Sheathed Box Cars

Ted Culotta
 

I have completed the first (second to be released) in the Prototype Railroad Profiles Series. This one is on the L&N ARA single sheathed box cars and includes a couple surprises (at least for me, if not others) about the prototypes. The link to it can be found here:


Happy Thanksgiving for those of you in the US (and belated for those in Canada). All others, be well.

Cheers,
Ted Culotta


Gene Green

 

I just received the December issue of RMC.  In it Gene has one of the finest prototype articles on a freight car I’ve ever seen.  The issue itself is a prototype modeler’s delight, one of the best ever. – Al Westerfield
 


Re: Milk Tank Cars 1940s

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <railroads@...> wrote :

Hi

I would like to locate some more good photos and or drawings of the non butterdish tank cars, normally 2 per car, for a HO model build.  Photos in the east or in Texas.Info on the tanks mainly.

Checked thru the photos and files of group could not locate any.

One question (from a dummy)   how were the tanks filled/emptied. There was a door for steam cleaning after use, but I can u no hatches or pipes for filling.
===============

Are you talking about the Pfaudler cars, either steel or wood? Some photos of a preserved one here:

IRM Roster - General American Pfaudler Corp. 1021

These cars had two glass lined tanks with a small enclosed room between, accessed by the doors in the middle of the car. Loading and unloading connections were done in this room, with hoses dragged in through the door. There may be a pipe that comes below the centersill at the middle of the car, but it's simply a floor drain for the room.

The Bordens cars were similar, just a different shaped enclosure for the tanks:

IRM Roster - Bordens 520

 



Dennis Storzek

 



 


Re: Milk Tank Cars 1940s

Charles Harris
 

Hi Don

I applied to that group a few days ago  no response as yet.  Hopefully soon.

Thanks


Charles Harris


Cocoa Beach Roommate Wanted

Spen Kellogg <spninetynine@...>
 

I have a room at the Cocoa Beach Hilton for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights and am looking for a roommate to share the costs (standard Prototype Meet rates of $105/night plus taxes).

Also, I have a rental car and could provide transportation for one or two people. I arrive in Orlando at 1:57 PM on Thursday Jan. 7 and plan to be back at the airport by 2:55 PM Sunday Jan. 10.

Spen Kellogg
Erie, CO
(303) 666-7166
spninetynine at centurylink dot net


Re: Pipe Load In Frisco Gondola

Bill Welch
 

Is this the 65-ft mill gon as modeled by the Athearn kit of a few years ago? If so the ends in the photo used to be available from Speedwitch. They were also on the mill gons owned by the L&N and NC&StL and probably others I am not aware of.

Bill Welch


Re: Milk Tank Cars 1940s

Don Burn
 

Consider joining the milktrains group on Yahoo. There is a lot of data there.

Don Burn

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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:51 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Milk Tank Cars 1940s



Hi

I would like to locate some more good photos and or drawings of the non butterdish tank cars, normally 2 per car, for a HO model build. Photos in the east or in Texas.Info on the tanks mainly.

Checked thru the photos and files of group could not locate any.

One question (from a dummy) how were the tanks filled/emptied. There was a door for steam cleaning after use, but I can u no hatches or pipes for filling.

Thankyou

Charles Harris


Re: Pipe Load In Frisco Gondola

Greg Martin
 

Steve,
 
It may be that there was nothing there at all and so they were added. It should have been wire strands that were tightened with a wooden block IIRC.
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 11/24/2015 4:47:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, STMFC@... writes:
 

Too bad somebody retouched the upper details -
hard to tell what the cross members were between the uprights
or how they were connected.


Milk Tank Cars 1940s

Charles Harris
 

Hi

I would like to locate some more good photos and or drawings of the non butterdish tank cars, normally 2 per car, for a HO model build.  Photos in the east or in Texas.Info on the tanks mainly.

Checked thru the photos and files of group could not locate any.

One question (from a dummy)   how were the tanks filled/emptied. There was a door for steam cleaning after use, but I can u no hatches or pipes for filling.

Thankyou

Charles Harris



Re: Pipe Load In Frisco Gondola

Steve Caple <stevecaple@...>
 

Too bad somebody retouched the upper details -
hard to tell what the cross members were between the uprights
or how they were connected.


Re: Pipe Load In Frisco Gondola

Greg Martin
 

Chuck,
 
I noticed the same thing, likely because they SHOULD have been there and weren't.
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 11/24/2015 3:23:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, STMFC@... writes:
The tops of the stakes and the cross tiestraps look like they were added or enhanced
with a watercolor brush.
Chuck Peck in FL 


Re: Prototype info for the new Accurail box car

Rob M.
 

Jut a little info Garth,  Rich released these models in January of this year.

Rich has the photographic evidence for the paint but the two straight boxcars  that I have that are not marked for local service have 1945 repack dates.

Rob Mondichak