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Re: Loading Char Coal in Alabama

caboose9792@...
 

Blast furnaces in West KY used charcoal until the end of operations on the eve of WWI. The availably of wood, iron ore and cheep labor locally made it economical. Unfortunately it wasn't until after the war a deposit of coaking coal was found along the IC to the north and the furnaces had long since been out of production, replaced by the modern furnaces elsewhere.
 
Mark Rickert
 

In a message dated 12/5/2015 1:04:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, STMFC@... writes:
Charcoal or Coke in 1909?
Al Kresse


Re: Loading Char Coal in Alabama

Cyril Durrenberger
 

Was there a charcoal plant at Randolph Ala?

That is an interesting Southern hopper car.

Cyril Durrenberger
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On Sat, 12/5/15, Charles Peck lnnrr152@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [STMFC] Loading Char Coal in Alabama
To: STMFC@...
Date: Saturday, December 5, 2015, 1:47 PM


 









If Randolph was near
Birmingham, I might guess coke.  But Randolph is quite
east,not industrial, and the photo label
says charcoal. I see no reason to second guessthe label. Chuck Peck in
FL
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Charcoal
or Coke in 1909?

Al Kresse




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Re: Loading Char Coal in Alabama

Charles Peck
 

If Randolph was near Birmingham, I might guess coke.  But Randolph is quite east,
not industrial, and the photo label says charcoal. I see no reason to second guess
the label. 
Chuck Peck in FL

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 2:04 PM, water.kresse@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Charcoal or Coke in 1909?
Al Kresse


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To: STMFC@...
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Re: Loading Char Coal in Alabama

water.kresse@...
 

Charcoal or Coke in 1909?
Al Kresse


From: "rwitt_2000@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 1:42:57 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Loading Char Coal in Alabama

 

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Loading Char Coal in Alabama

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Re: Stan Rydarowicz [earliest memories]

laserhriz
 

So sad to learn of Stan's passing.  Stan was a very good customer and we worked together on many lasered projects.
Stan was also an old auto enthusiast and had a 1954 Packard Clipper.
We would see each other at local car shows, particularly those that featured Packards.
The National Packard Museum is close by where Stan resided, and the museum would host shows that I would meet him at, often bringing a completed order to him to save postage. 

I will miss him.

Dennis Sautters
Laser Horizons




On Friday, December 4, 2015 6:01 PM, "RobertELucas@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Certainly echo everyone's posts.  I worked with Stan on AC&Y (former Mopac #23) Business Car models and other projects... spoke with him last about two weeks ago. Agree with all that we have lost a true friend and skilled contributor to the model railroading community!  Stan will be truly missed!  Bob Lucas



Re: AMRX ice reefer in 1960

Tim O'Connor
 

Scott,

The AMRX reporting mark meant these cars were in MEAT service.

From my notes -- AMRX series 1100-1112 built 1946

  Model Railroading 4/1989 p.55 1947 photo AMRX #1107 as original

  Model Railroading 3/1989 pp.50-60 1960 color photo AMRX #1109

There was another series of AMRX 50 foot ice reefers as well --
50' ice reefers w/ 10 roof hatches (brine tanks) AMRX series 1000-1011 built 1946

  PFE (2nd edition) p.187 1949 photo AMRX #1008 -- these cars were sold in 1950 to
  PFE and became class R-70-6, rebuilt in 1954 as mechanical reefers w/ swing doors

  Model Railroading 4/1989 p.53 roof photo of AMRX #1011

Tim O'Connor






http://www.ebay.com/itm/OS-AMERICAN-REFRIGERATOR-TRANSIT-CO-AMRX-1109-WABASH-MOPAC-FT-WORTH-1960-RARE/111830603554?

Don't recall any mention of these cars. By the size and reporting marks I presume these were heavily insulated reefers for frozen food service, similar to the 50-foot ice reefers Santa Fe had, and immortalized by Athearn.

   Guess you'll have to wait for the ART book, forthcoming from Signature Press, probably early next year.

Tony Thompson 


Re: Decals offered on Ebay by dkmtech

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

For a basic illustration of why “rounded” letters are larger than “straight” letters. Consider the word “AUTO” in upper case, as shown.

If one were draw horizontal lines over the tops and bottoms of the A and the T. the bottom of the U would extend below the line at the bottom of the A & T but the top of the U would be on the same line as the upper line. The O would extend both up and down from the respective lines. If this were not so, the bottom of the U would appear to be higher than the bottoms of the A & T and the O would appear smaller overall than the A &  T. It is an optical illusion due to the decreasing bulk on the curved surfaces. By adding to vertical size, the letters then appear to be the same height and on the same plane. If one were to inspect the letters very closely the differences will become obvious but from any normal viewing distance, they look just right.

The easiest way to discover this is to start drawing letters.

John Hagen


Thu Dec 3, 2015 4:52 pm (PST) . Posted by:

genegreen1942

I've had the opportunity on a few occasions to trace original M&StL lettering and discovered that the aforementioned "round" letters extended above and below imaginary horizontal lines at the top and bottom of words, data, reporting marks, etc. Gave no thought to why. Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense. Gene Green
Out in the Badlands of New Mexico


Re: SP & UP Gondolas

Dick Harley
 

The UP car is a 1920-built class G-50-7 drop-bottom gon, number series 62000-63999.
That car could be #63235. If so, it was built by Pullman in Dec. 1920, and was finally worn out and retired in Nov. 1955.

Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA


Re: Stan Rydarowicz

Richard Townsend
 

He leaves a big hole behind. He was quite a terrific guy. I first met him at the Rails by the River RPM meet. He tried to talk me out of buying one of his kits (the PFE R-40-27). He said they were too uncommon. I'm glad I did not take his advice and went ahead and bought that kit, among others.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Stan Rydarowicz

Dick Harley
 

Such very sad news.

While most of us sat around and idly talked about possible modeling projects, Stan would actually go home and do them. I would send him info and soon there would be another kitbash PFE model offered to all. Stan was talented, funny, honest, humble, quirky, generous, and an all around good guy.
He will be sorely missed by a lot of folks.

My sincere condolences to his family and close friends,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA


SP & UP Gondolas

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Here is another photo from the Vintage Portland website (https://vintageportland.wordpress.com/). It shows three gondolas in an area of several lumber and shingle mills in 1921. The foreground tracks were used by trolley cars.

 

https://vintageportland.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/a2009-009-1825-se-water-near-hawthorne-1921-24k.jpg

 

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

 

The first car to the left is SP 53366. The next car is UP followed by an SP. The numbers are not clear to me.

 

The location was SW Water Street, near its intersection with Columbia Street. Today this area is Waterfront Park at the foot of Columbia Street.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


SP Tank Car?

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Again courtesy of the Vintage Portland website (https://vintageportland.wordpress.com/) here is a 1934 photo taken in Portland, OR. The location is SE McLoughlin Boulevard

and the railroad tracks belong to the Southern Pacific.

 

Off to the right of the photo is a string of tank cars, one of which may be a Southern Pacific car.

 

https://vintageportland.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/1934-jul-31_se-mcloughlin-blvd-construction_a2009-009-3117.jpg

 

Click on the photo to enlarge it. There is not much real detail, unfortunately.

 

It’s hard to identify this spot today as the area to the right of the tracks looks completely different. A clue is that the highway starts to curve off to the left. It possible this is the area currently just south of the large intermodal yard crossed by Holgate Boulevard.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Stan Rydarowicz [earliest memories]

Bob Lucas
 

Certainly echo everyone's posts.  I worked with Stan on AC&Y (former Mopac #23) Business Car models and other projects... spoke with him last about two weeks ago. Agree with all that we have lost a true friend and skilled contributor to the model railroading community!  Stan will be truly missed!  Bob Lucas


Stan Rydarowicz update.

Brian Carlson
 

More information on Stan from my friend Mark Kerlick

Tentative schedule for Stan Rydarowicz will be Monday evening 12/7 and funeral on Tuesday. No specific times as of yet. The local paper that it will be in is the Youngstown Vindicator or Vindy.com

Keep in mind this is tentative.
We should know exact times tomorrow.
Let's give him a good send off at his last station stop on this earthly trip.

Brian J. Carlson


Re: PFE Cars At Pacific Fruit & Produce Co.

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Bob,

The first car appears to be 52153, or at least a car in that number series. It is one of the illusive Western Pacific-owned cars, which were R-30-13 clones. These were built in 1923 by AC&F.

The second car is 36086, an R-30-13 car built in 1926 by Standard Steel Car Co.

This data comes from Tony's PACIFIC FRUIT EXPRESS.

Nice photo. Thanks for sharing.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 12/4/15 3:58 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Courtesy of the Vintage Portland website (https://vintageportland.wordpress.com/) here is a 1935 photo of several PFE refrigerator cars parked at Pacific Fruit & Produce Company in Portland, OR. Pacific Fruit was located at SE 2nd Avenue and SE Alder Street.

This company was a Sunkist distributor and the facility previously was operated by Bell &

Company, the oldest and best known of the fruit and vegetable jobbing concerns in Portland.

 

https://vintageportland.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/1935-sep-25_se-2nd-ave-and-alder-st_a2009-009-2795.jpg

 

Click on the photo to enlarge it. I can’t quite identify the car numbers.

 

The building is still there but everything else in the picture is long gone. The tracks in the street appear to be paved over or removed. Alder Street is now Alder Avenue.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: PFE Cars At Pacific Fruit & Produce Co.

destorzek@...
 




---In STMFC@..., <thecitrusbelt@...> wrote :


https://vintageportland.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/1935-sep-25_se-2nd-ave-and-alder-st_a2009-009-2795.jpg

 

Click on the photo to enlarge it. I can’t quite identify the car numbers.

===============


Interestingly, the nearest reefer appears to have a Western Pacific emblem; one of the relatively small fleet of WP reefers managed by PFE.


Dennis Storzek


Another Train Fest report

Eric Hansmann
 

The Resin Car Works blog is back in action with a Train Fest report from Peter Hall and photos from Bob Kosic. Read all about it through the link.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/train-fest-2015-report/

 

Eric Hansmann

RCW web guy


Re: PFE Cars At Pacific Fruit & Produce Co.

paul.doggett2472@...
 

Great photo.
Paul Doggett UK




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"thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Courtesy of the Vintage Portland website (https://vintageportland.wordpress.com/) here is a 1935 photo of several PFE refrigerator cars parked at Pacific Fruit & Produce Company in Portland, OR. Pacific Fruit was located at SE 2nd Avenue and SE Alder Street.

This company was a Sunkist distributor and the facility previously was operated by Bell &

Company, the oldest and best known of the fruit and vegetable jobbing concerns in Portland.

 

https://vintageportland.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/1935-sep-25_se-2nd-ave-and-alder-st_a2009-009-2795.jpg

 

Click on the photo to enlarge it. I can’t quite identify the car numbers.

 

The building is still there but everything else in the picture is long gone. The tracks in the street appear to be paved over or removed. Alder Street is now Alder Avenue.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Stan Rydarowicz [earliest memories]

O Fenton Wells
 

I am saddened hearing the news about Stan's passing. I bought several models over the years from him and would enjoy chatting with him at Cocoa. 
Another unique model railroader has left us and the hobby will notice the void Stan leaves by his absence
Fenton Wells 


On Dec 4, 2015, at 9:34 AM, cepropst@q.com [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I was so impressed with Stan’s models on display at either the first or second Naperville we attended that I bought some parts from him. I brought the models I’d made back the next year. Stan was like a kid at Christmas when he saw them. He had never seen anyone build any of his models! We were good friends from then on.
We attended the banquet during the first Cocoa Beach meet we attended. I sat next to Stan and across from Ben Hom. Ben had just taken a bite of food when Stan blurted out “I went to school with this Polish kid, boy was he stupid!” Ben showed great self control not spitting his food all over us on the other side of the table.
A few years ago I started bring a regional potato chip with us to RPMs. Stan loved them, we’d share a bag with beers in our room and I’d bring an extra bag for Stan to take home. I’ll toast Stan by consuming another bag....
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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