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Re: Ice refrigerators (Frozen Turkeys) Early 40-foot Mechs

Bill Welch
 

However Jim. . .

They were around, and even in the Pacific northwest west to be loaded. Here is FGE's initial gas fueled Thermo-King car out on one of its trials runs being loaded with Birdseye products.


Note the New Date. This car was converted from an ice bunker car. FGE quickly adopted the new sliding door technology for their new Mechs.

Many of those 152 Mechs in service were forty foot cars, all FGE of course. I wonder when those folks at "Shake 'n Take" are going to move into the 21st Century and do a project just begging for some Photo-Etch. Accurail has the correct steel reefer w/sliding doors to model the majority of the 40-footers. They had fuel tanks hanging under the floor and all sorts of interesting detail.

Just begging to be done in styrene (with the Detroit Diesel sound) is the 50-foot FGE/WFE/BRE 1953 design built through 1957 with the only major change being the rib design of the Improved Dreadnaught ends. One thousand cars with roller bearing trucks.

Bill Welch


"Live Fire" Airbrushing Acrylics at Prototype Rails 2016

Bill Welch
 

I thought it would be helpful if i provide more details about what I  am calling the "Live Fire" painting event next Saturday, Jan. 9 at the 16th Annual Prototype Rails. I have been painting my freight cars with Acrylic paints since I began building them in about 1992. Over the years I have noticed that many modelers have had frustrating experiences with Acrylics or have an outright aversion to them. In the beginning I was frustrated too but I was determined to succeed and I persevered until I felt like I had succeeded. Mostly it was having the right Airbrush. I will be talking about my experience in the the "Airbrushing 101. . ." clinic.


During the past couple of years I have gone a little bit insane and have accumulated ten airbrushes and it occurred to me that with a little cooperation from the organizers of Prototype Rails—and as it came to pass Accurail and Badger—maybe I could give some people a chance to spray Modelflex paint—my main choice now for many years—with a Airbrush properly equipped to spray it.

During the "Live Fire" event there will be four different Double Action Internal Mix airbrushes available to spray with:

Badger 155 Anthem Siphon feed
Badger 105 Patriot Gravity Feed
GREX TG Gravity Feed
Passche Talon Gravity Feed

These will all have the large needle/nozzle combinations I have found necessary to be successful spraying. I will also have an inexpensive siphon feed ABEST airbrush as a backup and incase someone wants to try a siphon feed and the 155 is not available

If you follow this link you can see the Sign-up Sheet: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qqtvs67rouzejxu/Livefire%20Painting%20Signup%20Sheet.pdf?dl=0

This will be available to participants beginning about 12 PM Friday, January 8. I thought it would be helpful to see this in advance so interested people can do some planning. Some of you may want to plan to airbrush with a friend. When you PRINT your name in LEGIBLY please feel free to write in your Airbrush preference. Obviously the first people to signup in each time slot will have their first choice.

Not mentioned in the Prototype Rails 2016 info but informally/irregularly a couple of times at least I will have a small table in one of of the hallways with several airbrushes for those that  would like to get a feel for several airbrushes and see what is easy and comfortable for them.

Bill Welch



Re: Rolling Stock 1979-1983

Tim O'Connor
 

Mike

That's true but many of the cars in the photos were BUILT prior to
1961... I think most people here have tolerated post-1960 photos in
the past as long as the cars were built in the STMFC era.

Just a cursory glance at the album shows that perhaps 1/4 to 1/3 of
the cars (and maybe more) are appropriate for the STFMC time frame.

Tim O'Connor

Uh, Pete, You say:

I recently went through my freight car photos and sorted them into two
separate albums, pre and post 2000.

The STMFC rules clearly state:

"The objectives
include the sharing of
information about North American, standard gauge railroad freight cars in
the period 1900-1960 inclusive..."

There are groups that cover time periods after those of the STMFC.

Mike Brock
STMFC Boss


Re: Rolling Stock 1979-1983

Mikebrock
 

Uh, Pete, You say:

I recently went through my freight car photos and sorted them into two separate albums, pre and post 2000.

The STMFC rules clearly state:

"The objectives
include the sharing of
information about North American, standard gauge railroad freight cars in
the period 1900-1960 inclusive..."

There are groups that cover time periods after those of the STMFC.

Mike Brock
STMFC Boss


Rolling Stock 1979-1983

Pete Piszczek
 

I recently went through my freight car photos and sorted them into two separate albums, pre and post 2000.

The pre album is mostly scanned Kodachromes taken around 1980, about 145 images to date. The link is below.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/79009322@N04/albums/72157662839434011

Hopefully these will be of interest.

Regards
Pete Piszczek


Re: Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see prominently in this photo?

Eric Lombard
 


Re: Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see prominently in this photo?

Eric Lombard
 

Happy New Year Everyone ...

"Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see prominently in this photo?"

IRC 61973-62345

1912[9]-1913[1]   373  Fowler/Dominion pattern cars BLT by Nova Scotia Car Co, Halifax, NS.

1913(1) ORER states: "The freight cars of this Railway are marked Intercolonial Canada." "Intercolonial Railway of Canada," and Initialled "I.C.R," [being changed to I.R.C],..."

1915(9) ORER states: Reporting Marks—“ I R C ”  The freight cars are
marked “lntercolonial Canada." “Intercolonial Railway of Canada." and initialed “I. C. R.” [being changed to I. R. C.], and “C. G. R." ..."

1919(12) ORER lists 370 cars in 61973-62345. So, on the verge of the photo date only a few had been lost and #62231 in the photo was one of those re-marked to IRC marks.

1922[1] Begin RENO into CN 378279-378643.

Eric Lombard
Homewood, IL


Re: Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see prominently in this photo?

Eric Hansmann
 

Michigan Central is emblazoned on the car side to the left of the doors.

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX


On January 1, 2016 at 6:19 AM "riverman_vt@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

Claus,

    This looks to me to be a car from the Intercolonial Rwy. and I, too, believe
it is one of the Dominion cars. But what is that equally interesting 1 & 1/2 door,
6 over 7 end, steel sheathed car to its right? Possibly one of the early NYC cars?

Happy New Year, Don Valentine


Re: Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see prominently in this photo?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Zoomed in, the reporting marks kind of look like AT&SF, and the herald on the far end looks vaguely circular, but I am not claiming to have properly identified the car . . .



Schuyler



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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see prominently in this photo?





Claus,



This looks to me to be a car from the Intercolonial Rwy. and I, too, believe

it is one of the Dominion cars. But what is that equally interesting 1 & 1/2 door,

6 over 7 end, steel sheathed car to its right? Possibly one of the early NYC cars?



Happy New Year, Don Valentine





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Re: Testors Decal Printing Results

Richard Townsend
 

I've printed black decals on Microscale "Trim Film" on the color cube at work and I am quite satisfied with them. They don't dissolve in water or decal setting solution.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: Testors Decal Printing Results

Chuck Soule
 

> Mike Bauers wrote:

> What’s the reports on the suitability of the Xerox solid ink printers for decals???

My company replaced one of its network printers with a Xerox ColorQube several years ago, and it is not popular from the perspective of the peons' work needs.  We frequently print maps or engineering drawings and mark them up for review.  The waxy surface is almost impossible to write on with anything short of a Sharpie.  Even text pages are frustrating to write on.  Also, we generally feel the graphic resolution/color response is not as good as some of our other laser printers.

I don't know how that would translate to decal needs. 

Chuck Soule


Re: Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see prominently in this photo?

riverman_vt@...
 

Claus,

    This looks to me to be a car from the Intercolonial Rwy. and I, too, believe
it is one of the Dominion cars. But what is that equally interesting 1 & 1/2 door,
6 over 7 end, steel sheathed car to its right? Possibly one of the early NYC cars?

Happy New Year, Don Valentine


Re: Photo-etched parts

Steve Stull
 

I will third that statement.  I have purchased both decals (ATSF Dyno 29) and grab iron jigs from Peter. He is excellent in both communication, and quality of product.
Thanks for your efforts Peter.

Steve Stull



On 12/30/2015 9:42 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:
My favorite has been the "Peter Aue" system. It's remarkably easy to use,
very cost effective, and the results are quite spectacular. :-)



Re: Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see prominently in this photo?

Pierre Oliver
 

Intercolonial Railway of Canada?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercolonial_Railway
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 12/31/15 9:37 PM, Eric Hansmann eric@... [STMFC] wrote:

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From the appearance of the grab iron attachments on the left corner, this seems like a Dominion/Fowler car design. There is also a sill step on the left side of the car end. Is this a predecessor road to the Canadian National? The photo is dated March 1920.

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX

On Dec 31, 2015, at 5:39 PM, 'Claus Schlund HGM' claus@... [STMFC] wrote:

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Re: Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see p

John Riddell
 

This appears to be boxcar IRC 62231, one of 356 boxcars in series 61973-62345 of the Intercolonial Railway of Canada.  Its a long way from its home in eastern Canada.
 
John Riddell 


Re: Ice refrigerators (Frozen Turkeys)

Tim O'Connor
 


A huge factor in why I decided to change era from ~1960 to ~1970...

Tim O'Connor



One other thing I may add to this string, (even though the title remains Ice refrigerators)
  in a recent read of Railway Age, it notes that there were only 152 Mechanical reefers in service in 1952.

And so as I am modeling 1953, I see no need to ever purchase a model of one.
        The phrase, rare as hen's teeth - comes readily to mind.                                Jim Dick - St. Paul


Re: Ice refrigerators lettered "RD"

pennsylvania1954
 

Now I understand. Salt. Thanks, all!

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Re: Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see prominently in this photo?

Eric Hansmann
 

From the appearance of the grab iron attachments on the left corner, this seems like a Dominion/Fowler car design. There is also a sill step on the left side of the car end. Is this a predecessor road to the Canadian National? The photo is dated March 1920.

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX

On Dec 31, 2015, at 5:39 PM, 'Claus Schlund HGM' claus@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Hi List Members,


Can anyone identify the road name for the car whose end we see prominently in this photo? Reporting marks seem to end in RC, but
there might be one or more letters before that we cannot see.

http://clerk.seattle.gov/~scripts/nph-brs.exe?s1=49351.NUM.&Sect6=HITOFF&Sect5=PHOT5&Sect4=AND&d=PHO2&l=1&p=1&u=/~public/phot1.htm&r=1&f=G

Claus Schlund



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Re: Ice refrigerators (Frozen Turkeys)

Rufus Cone
 

In the context of this discussion, the following articles on NHIX cars on the NP give further information about transport of frozen food in ice reefers.
David Lambert, MDT Metamorphosis NHIX, Railroad Model Craftsman, January & February 1990

Comments on NHIX by H Lansing Vail, Jr. - NYCS Historical Society, Railroad Model Craftsman, August-1990

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Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT


Re: Ice refrigerators (Frozen Turkeys)

LOUIS WHITELEY <octoraro1@...>
 




On Dec 31, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

BDob Chaparro wrote:

 
The amount of salt required to achieve 32 degrees usually was 30 percent by weight compared to the ice. I'm sure this kind of extreme performance in the ice bunker cars required frequent reicing.

   Probably this is a typo by Bob. An equilibrium mixture of water and ice, no salt, is at 32 degrees (Fahrenheit). Salt additions lower that temperature. The minimum achievable (in the laboratory) with 23 percent salt is -6 degrees (the temperature of the water-salt eutectic, for the technically minded -- you can read about eutectics on Wikipedia). Use of more salt, for example 30 percent, is just insurance. I have read that it was difficult to get an ice reefer below 10 degrees in real life. And BTW, ice cars used for frozen loads were heavily insulated compared to ordinary ice reefers.

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