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Boxcar Petroleum Carrier
thecitrusbelt@...
This is a link to a 1940 photo from the Library of Congress:
http://www.loc.gov/item/oem2002007571/PP/
On the left side the image is available to review in several sizes under “Download options”.
Caption: “New type of boxcar petroleum carrier which the Office of Defense Transportation hopes may soon be helping to solve the oil shortage in the East. The car is a standard automobile-type steel box car fitted with four steel tanks enclosed in wooden boxes. It has a capacity of 12,200 gallons--considerably more than the average tank car serving the East.”
How prevalent were such cars and how well did the workout?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Re: Barriger Library AC&F Builder's Photos
water.kresse@...
Great stuff! Lots of tank cars and caboose, passenger, baggage and mail car interiors. Where else have you seen car lavatories?
Al Kresse
From: "markwmhemphill@... [STMFC]" To: STMFC@... Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 9:43:44 AM Subject: [STMFC] Barriger Library AC&F Builder's Photos
As Doug Harding and possibly others have pointed out, Barriger Library has been posting downloadable, high-resolution AC&F builder's photos. There have been quite a few recently posted; there are 676 images in the album so far. Downloading these at high-resolution is slightly convoluted -- I left-click on the download symbol in the lower right corner, then right click on "Original" -- that enables me to write file names as I go, and put them into the directory I want rather than just in the default Windows Downloads folder. https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/albums/72157649155982802 Mark Hemphill
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Barriger Library AC&F Builder's Photos
Mark Hemphill
As Doug Harding and possibly others have pointed out, Barriger Library has been posting downloadable, high-resolution AC&F builder's photos. There have been quite a few recently posted; there are 676 images in the album so far. Downloading these at high-resolution is slightly convoluted -- I left-click on the download symbol in the lower right corner, then right click on "Original" -- that enables me to write file names as I go, and put them into the directory I want rather than just in the default Windows Downloads folder. https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/albums/72157649155982802 Mark Hemphill
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The NYCSHS Announces a Brand New Book on NYCS Hudsons.
Noel Widdifield
The NYCSHS Announces a Brand New Book on NYCS Hudsons. This hard cover book is the complete story of the NYC Hudson by subclass, written by NYCSHS Director and former President Tom Gerbracht, after several years of research into the most famous NYC steam locomotives. Tom gives the detailed history of the NYC Hudson from official railroad record cards and drawings. The book covers all of the locomotives in the Hudson class, including the Boston & Albany J-2s, the Dreyfuss and Empire State streamlined locos, and of the tenders used by Hudsons. Extensive detailed reference material is included. The book has over 250 pages and 200 photographs, many previously unpublished, with 32 of them in color. Excellent for modelers.Features:
Ordering Details:
Click Here to Order from Our Online Store!!!http://Welcome to NYCSHS - The Collinwood Shop To download an order form to pay by check or money order click here. https://nycshs.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/tomsbookflyer-1.pdf
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Re: cupola railings
North Model Railroad Supplies <nmrs@...>
Hi Mike, If you read the reviews, that is NOT a tool you would wish for. http://www.amazon.com/Artistic-Wire-Deluxe-Jig-Kit/dp/B0018GI46M/ Pity, because the idea is a good one. Cheers Dave North
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Re: cupola railings
To follow up: AMB created a wonderful little laser cut acrylic jig for bending all the railings, grabs, etc for their M&StL caboose kit. It does the curved grabs for the sides, the ones for the top of cupola, the end railings with the correct bends and curves, the correct length grabs, etc. I don’t believe they offered it in any other kit, at least none of the others I have built. I have several of the jibs and have modified one by drilling additional holes to bend different length grabs for other cabooses.
When I get home and can dig through the tool box, I will try to post a photo of the jib so you can get a better idea of what I looks like and how it works.
Doug Harding
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CA Santa Fe Mini Meet Feb. 6 with Redland Loop, Cajon during WWII and other presentations
The next California Mini Meet will be held on February 6. Due to changes that have been made at the San Bernardino Depot, we can no longer hold the Mini Meet there.
The new location will be: Christ Lutheran Church of West Covina 311 South Citrus Street, West Covina Exit San Bernardino Freeway (I-10) at Citrus, go south 1/8 mile Map Link: http://tinyurl.com/ojmukxz The day will begin with registration starting at 7:30 a.m. and the first presentation at 8:00 a.m. sharp. As usual, we will have a great lineup of speakers, frequent breaks to visit vendors and view a large modular layout, and ample time for lunch. The program is expected to conclude at approximately 4:45 p.m. Our speakers for the day will include: Warren Scholl - Training of Santa Fe Engineers Stuart Forsyth - Cajon At War: Operations Update Eric Smith - Keeping the Chief on Raton Pass Keith Jordan - Modeling the Redlands Loop Steve Crise - Cajon ln Photographs: 1960-1980 Plus one additional speaker yet to be announced Cost of admission is $30. We urge you to register in advance by mail as it makes our job much easier and avoids you having to stand in line on the morning of the event. Do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions. EVENT ORGANIZERS: GeneRutledge 559-732-2560 atsfgene@... [atsfgene AT aol DOT com] Charlie Schultz 909-596-5870 Ctschult@... [Ctschult AT aol DOT com] PLEASE PRINT NAME ______________________________________________________ E-MAIL ADDRESS ____________________________________________ ADDRESS ___________________________________________________ CITY STATE ZIP ______________________________________________ PHONE _____________________________________________________ If you are registering for more than yourself, list additional names here: Registration Fee - $30.00 per person Pay by check or money order only (No credit card capabilities) Make checks payable to Charlie Schultz Mail to: Charlie Schultz, 2218 Virginia Ave, La Verne, CA 91750-2257 Phone 909-596-5870 This is a mini-meet of the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society. Lunch is on your own — several restaurants are nearby. There may be a few vendors but this is not intended to be a swap meet. --- I'll be there helping out. Charley Hepperle aka chdiecast
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Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge
prr282
Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge is returning to the Desmond Hotel in Malvern, PA (about 20 miles west of Philadelphia and convenient to the PA Turnpike and US 202), the same great hotel as previous years. This year's dates are March 18-20, 2016. Over 50 different clinics will be presented, along with operating sessions, vendors room, models display room, and a home layout tour. Please visit our web site for full information: www.rpmvalleyforge.com There you will find a list of vendors, complete timetable, hotel information, and a registration form. Paul Backenstose Chairman
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Southern SU Diagram
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Friends,
Does anyone here have, or know where I can find online, a general arrangement drawings for the Southern SU 36' wooden boxcar from the mid to late 1950s? In my 1958 ORER, I find the Southern still rostered 22 of these: 16 in series 153500-159889 and 6 in series 162000-169769. If possible I would like the find the numbers of cars still in service, and also match them to the proper end: T, Hutchins or "Murphy". Failing in that, could anyone please forward me the correct number of a Hutchins-end car still in revenue service circa 1957-1958? (I have a Westerfield Hutchins car on order.) Thanks in advance. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: New 3D printer
mwbauers
There are a number of nice compact models at under $350 today.
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That 5-10 years might end up being 1-2 years. Here’s one to look at.. and another… Best to ya, Mike Bauers Milwaukee, Wi
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Re: New 3D printer
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 1/7/2016 2:14 AM, Garth Groff
sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:
a new printer There is also a crude one for $269. In another 5/10 years every model railroader will have a 3D printer on his bench (grin)! -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: New 3D printer
mwbauers
With low cost laser cutters around the $500 level and at $100 for some models, someone can take the same idea and make a blade-less version of this 3d printer that should much cost less than the $6,000 of this more mechanical cutting 3d paper printer.
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The future is certainly going to be interesting. Best to ya, Mike Bauers Milwaukee, Wi
On Jan 7, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Garth Groff wrote:
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Re: cupola railings
mwbauers
I think you wish for a tool like this….
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Or a DIY version with nails pounded into a board that has just the spacing over the outside of the nails you need for each grab you are bending . [use inner distance needed, minus the diameter of -one- of the nails to hammer the bending jig you need. Mark the board for that and hammer in the nail on the end of that measured line.] There is the secret, the inside measurement of the bent grab you need, with the bending pins installed so that the outside of those pins is the distance you need for your bend. Best to ya, Mike Bauers Milwaukee, Wi
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Re: cupola railings
Ed AMB provided a nice bending jig in their MSTL caboose kit, which I have modified to bend parts for other cabooses. Get or make a jig for consistent parts. Doug Harding from my phone
Most caboose kits direct you to bend a piece of wire requiring you to get at least 2 measurements exactly if you want the cupola railings to look good. Using a whole package of wire I couldn't get those railings to look decent. I've gotten nice results using Yarmouth eye bolts and "L" shaped pieces of wire. AMB laserkits provide a template for the mounting holes which is an improvement. Ed Mines [The entire original message is not included.]
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cupola railings
ed_mines
Most caboose kits direct you to bend a piece of wire requiring you to get at least 2 measurements exactly if you want the cupola railings to look good. Using a whole package of wire I couldn't get those railings to look decent. I've gotten nice results using Yarmouth eye bolts and "L" shaped pieces of wire. AMB laserkits provide a template for the mounting holes which is an improvement. Ed Mines
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B&LE kit
B&LE Speedwitch kit has been sold. Thank you! Hugh T. Guillaume
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New 3D printer
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Friends,
Today the BBC has a feature on a new printer that uses layered paper to make 3D models. At around $6,000 this is a bit steep, but the price is bound to drop if the technology catches on. This might have great possibilities for model railroads, especially buildings, as the photo examples show. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35247318 Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: Red Caboose Type103W
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Denis,
According to articles and correspondence I have in my files written by the late Richard Hendrickson (our freight car guru), the Red Caboose car, has only two prototypes. The majority of these were built for the U.S. Army Quartermaster Corps in 1951/52 by AC&F. There were 740 cars in USAX series 11635-12374. Later in the 1950s these became DODX cars of the same numbers. At least one car survives at the Feather River Railroad Museum as FR&W 12107 (the FR&W is the reporting mark of the museum). Nearly identical cars were built for UTLX in 1951 as 39000-39499 with minor frame variations from the kit. This would probably be the best prototype for you. RC offered this car, some with white lettering. I have their number RC-3001-11 in yellow lettering. The correct lettering color for UTLX black cars was yellow. Yellow UTLX decals are available from several sources. The best trucks/bogies for either car are probably ASF "Ride Control", a so-called Bettendorf truck. Athearn, Kadee and others make them. Some additional cars were for other operators with dome platforms operated by SHPX, GATX and ACDX. Some of these used Barber S-2 trucks. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: Red Caboose Type103W
golden1014
Hello Denis, Please contact me offline if you need help with this model. My e-mail is Golden1014@.... Your best starting point is the RMJ article mentioned by Al Brown. That should answer most of your questions about the prototype car. I believe it is available online at the Trainlife site at http://www.trainlife.com/. Click ont he railroad magazine archive at the right and you should be able to find the article. If you have difficulty getting it let me know and I'll try and get you a copy. For your reference, here is Al's e-mail: "The prototype of the Red Caboose tank car was built for the U.S. Army Transportation Corps between 1949 and '52. See Hendrickson, RMJ 4/96 pp 52-56..." The Red Caboose model is only accurate for a few prototypes, but it's a nice model. I don't have one but I can help you with truck (bogie) choices and also finding replacement parts. Also for your reference, it's considered polite to sign your e-mails with your full name and city/state/country. That way we can reply to you appropriately. On some lists it is a required step when posting. Looking forward to your e-mail! John John Golden Albersbach, Germany
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Red caboose type 103w
Paul Catapano
A bogie is a colonel but only in "March".
Be happy in your work. Paul Catapano Winchester, Va.
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