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CA Santa Fe Mini Meet Feb. 6 with Redland Loop, Cajon during WWII and other presentations
The next California Mini Meet will be held on February 6. Due to changes that have been made at the San Bernardino Depot, we can no longer hold the Mini Meet there.
The new location will be: Christ Lutheran Church of West Covina 311 South Citrus Street, West Covina Exit San Bernardino Freeway (I-10) at Citrus, go south 1/8 mile Map Link: http://tinyurl.com/ojmukxz The day will begin with registration starting at 7:30 a.m. and the first presentation at 8:00 a.m. sharp. As usual, we will have a great lineup of speakers, frequent breaks to visit vendors and view a large modular layout, and ample time for lunch. The program is expected to conclude at approximately 4:45 p.m. Our speakers for the day will include: Warren Scholl - Training of Santa Fe Engineers Stuart Forsyth - Cajon At War: Operations Update Eric Smith - Keeping the Chief on Raton Pass Keith Jordan - Modeling the Redlands Loop Steve Crise - Cajon ln Photographs: 1960-1980 Plus one additional speaker yet to be announced Cost of admission is $30. We urge you to register in advance by mail as it makes our job much easier and avoids you having to stand in line on the morning of the event. Do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions. EVENT ORGANIZERS: GeneRutledge 559-732-2560 atsfgene@... [atsfgene AT aol DOT com] Charlie Schultz 909-596-5870 Ctschult@... [Ctschult AT aol DOT com] PLEASE PRINT NAME ______________________________________________________ E-MAIL ADDRESS ____________________________________________ ADDRESS ___________________________________________________ CITY STATE ZIP ______________________________________________ PHONE _____________________________________________________ If you are registering for more than yourself, list additional names here: Registration Fee - $30.00 per person Pay by check or money order only (No credit card capabilities) Make checks payable to Charlie Schultz Mail to: Charlie Schultz, 2218 Virginia Ave, La Verne, CA 91750-2257 Phone 909-596-5870 This is a mini-meet of the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society. Lunch is on your own — several restaurants are nearby. There may be a few vendors but this is not intended to be a swap meet. --- I'll be there helping out. Charley Hepperle aka chdiecast
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Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge
prr282
Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge is returning to the Desmond Hotel in Malvern, PA (about 20 miles west of Philadelphia and convenient to the PA Turnpike and US 202), the same great hotel as previous years. This year's dates are March 18-20, 2016. Over 50 different clinics will be presented, along with operating sessions, vendors room, models display room, and a home layout tour. Please visit our web site for full information: www.rpmvalleyforge.com There you will find a list of vendors, complete timetable, hotel information, and a registration form. Paul Backenstose Chairman
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Southern SU Diagram
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Friends,
Does anyone here have, or know where I can find online, a general arrangement drawings for the Southern SU 36' wooden boxcar from the mid to late 1950s? In my 1958 ORER, I find the Southern still rostered 22 of these: 16 in series 153500-159889 and 6 in series 162000-169769. If possible I would like the find the numbers of cars still in service, and also match them to the proper end: T, Hutchins or "Murphy". Failing in that, could anyone please forward me the correct number of a Hutchins-end car still in revenue service circa 1957-1958? (I have a Westerfield Hutchins car on order.) Thanks in advance. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: New 3D printer
mwbauers
There are a number of nice compact models at under $350 today.
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That 5-10 years might end up being 1-2 years. Here’s one to look at.. and another… Best to ya, Mike Bauers Milwaukee, Wi
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Re: New 3D printer
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 1/7/2016 2:14 AM, Garth Groff
sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:
a new printer There is also a crude one for $269. In another 5/10 years every model railroader will have a 3D printer on his bench (grin)! -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: New 3D printer
mwbauers
With low cost laser cutters around the $500 level and at $100 for some models, someone can take the same idea and make a blade-less version of this 3d printer that should much cost less than the $6,000 of this more mechanical cutting 3d paper printer.
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The future is certainly going to be interesting. Best to ya, Mike Bauers Milwaukee, Wi
On Jan 7, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Garth Groff wrote:
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Re: cupola railings
mwbauers
I think you wish for a tool like this….
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Or a DIY version with nails pounded into a board that has just the spacing over the outside of the nails you need for each grab you are bending . [use inner distance needed, minus the diameter of -one- of the nails to hammer the bending jig you need. Mark the board for that and hammer in the nail on the end of that measured line.] There is the secret, the inside measurement of the bent grab you need, with the bending pins installed so that the outside of those pins is the distance you need for your bend. Best to ya, Mike Bauers Milwaukee, Wi
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Re: cupola railings
Ed AMB provided a nice bending jig in their MSTL caboose kit, which I have modified to bend parts for other cabooses. Get or make a jig for consistent parts. Doug Harding from my phone
Most caboose kits direct you to bend a piece of wire requiring you to get at least 2 measurements exactly if you want the cupola railings to look good. Using a whole package of wire I couldn't get those railings to look decent. I've gotten nice results using Yarmouth eye bolts and "L" shaped pieces of wire. AMB laserkits provide a template for the mounting holes which is an improvement. Ed Mines [The entire original message is not included.]
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cupola railings
ed_mines
Most caboose kits direct you to bend a piece of wire requiring you to get at least 2 measurements exactly if you want the cupola railings to look good. Using a whole package of wire I couldn't get those railings to look decent. I've gotten nice results using Yarmouth eye bolts and "L" shaped pieces of wire. AMB laserkits provide a template for the mounting holes which is an improvement. Ed Mines
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B&LE kit
B&LE Speedwitch kit has been sold. Thank you! Hugh T. Guillaume
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New 3D printer
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Friends,
Today the BBC has a feature on a new printer that uses layered paper to make 3D models. At around $6,000 this is a bit steep, but the price is bound to drop if the technology catches on. This might have great possibilities for model railroads, especially buildings, as the photo examples show. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35247318 Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: Red Caboose Type103W
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Denis,
According to articles and correspondence I have in my files written by the late Richard Hendrickson (our freight car guru), the Red Caboose car, has only two prototypes. The majority of these were built for the U.S. Army Quartermaster Corps in 1951/52 by AC&F. There were 740 cars in USAX series 11635-12374. Later in the 1950s these became DODX cars of the same numbers. At least one car survives at the Feather River Railroad Museum as FR&W 12107 (the FR&W is the reporting mark of the museum). Nearly identical cars were built for UTLX in 1951 as 39000-39499 with minor frame variations from the kit. This would probably be the best prototype for you. RC offered this car, some with white lettering. I have their number RC-3001-11 in yellow lettering. The correct lettering color for UTLX black cars was yellow. Yellow UTLX decals are available from several sources. The best trucks/bogies for either car are probably ASF "Ride Control", a so-called Bettendorf truck. Athearn, Kadee and others make them. Some additional cars were for other operators with dome platforms operated by SHPX, GATX and ACDX. Some of these used Barber S-2 trucks. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: Red Caboose Type103W
golden1014
Hello Denis, Please contact me offline if you need help with this model. My e-mail is Golden1014@.... Your best starting point is the RMJ article mentioned by Al Brown. That should answer most of your questions about the prototype car. I believe it is available online at the Trainlife site at http://www.trainlife.com/. Click ont he railroad magazine archive at the right and you should be able to find the article. If you have difficulty getting it let me know and I'll try and get you a copy. For your reference, here is Al's e-mail: "The prototype of the Red Caboose tank car was built for the U.S. Army Transportation Corps between 1949 and '52. See Hendrickson, RMJ 4/96 pp 52-56..." The Red Caboose model is only accurate for a few prototypes, but it's a nice model. I don't have one but I can help you with truck (bogie) choices and also finding replacement parts. Also for your reference, it's considered polite to sign your e-mails with your full name and city/state/country. That way we can reply to you appropriately. On some lists it is a required step when posting. Looking forward to your e-mail! John John Golden Albersbach, Germany
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Red caboose type 103w
Paul Catapano
A bogie is a colonel but only in "March".
Be happy in your work. Paul Catapano Winchester, Va.
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Looking for Jim Kinkaid
Jim King
Can someone, assuming Jim is not on this list, provide Mr. Kinkaid’s email addy off-list? The only one I have is from Cessna and I’m not sure he still works there.
Jim King (828) 777-5619 www.smokymountainmodelworks.com
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Re: Red Caboose Type103W
al_brown03
The prototype of the Red Caboose tank car was built for the U.S. Army Transportation Corps between 1949 and '52. See Hendrickson, RMJ 4/96 pp 52-56, and Kaminski, "AC&F" p 105. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Re: Red Caboose Type103W
Denis Kahl
Hi,
Glad to have provided some entertainment for the new year. A bogey is also a spook, ghost etc. Next time I will try and give greater thought to the audience I am writing for.
As the paint scheme is bogus the truck/bogie choice as has been observed is a free choice which makes it easy though a bettendorf is what I would pick. Thinking further perhaps a strip and repaint might be a better option which would make the removal of the part line along the top of the tank easier. Cheers Denis Kahl Further SW than the Solomons
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Toronto Railway Prototype Modellers Meet
Richard MCQUADE
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Re: Red Caboose Type103W
Alex Schneider says:
"Bogies is British nomenclature for what we call "trucks"." Yes, but the American use of the term is used to represent enemy aircraft...particularly during our time frame... and, of course the close proximity to the Southwest Pacific lends itself to that interpretation especially since the STMFC is about North American frt cars. OTOH. none of it seems appropriate for the STMFC. Mike Brock : "'Mike Brock' brockm@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Red Caboose Type103W Denis [ no last name I guess ] writes from somewhere near Guadalcanal: "I purchased at a train show a secondhand un-built Red Caboose Type 103W 10,000 gallon tank car lettered for Richfield with a built date of 8-49. I have two issues with the kit 1) The bogies are missing but there were plastic wheels now disposed of. " What's a bogie? Mike Brock...who has such a kit and will provide info AFTER Prototype Rails and pending release from the asylum ------------------------------------ Posted by: "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links
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Re: Red Caboose Type103W
paul.doggett2472@...
Dennis Use Bettandorf as good as any by Kadee, Accurail or walthers etc. Paul Doggett UK Sent from Samsung mobile "'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
Denis,
It doesn't really matter what trucks you slap under it as the paint and lettering for Richfield is bogus.
Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, Al
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Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 3:13 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Red Caboose Type103W Hi,
I purchased at a train show a secondhand un-built Red Caboose Type 103W 10,000 gallon tank car lettered for Richfield with a built date of 8-49.
I have two issues with the kit
1) The bogies are missing but there were plastic wheels now disposed of. So, what available bogies would best fit this car? 2) The main handrail around the centre of the car is missing. If someone has an unbuilt example of this car it would be useful if I could get a scan of the handrail including a ruler so I could bend one up. Anybody able to assist with this?
Thanks Denis Somewhere in the SW Pacific
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