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Re: cupola railings

Douglas Harding
 

To follow up: AMB created a wonderful little laser cut acrylic jig for bending all the railings, grabs, etc for their M&StL caboose kit. It does the curved grabs for the sides, the ones for the top of cupola, the end railings with the correct bends and curves, the correct length grabs, etc. I don’t believe they offered it in any other kit, at least none of the others I have built. I have several of the jibs and have modified one by drilling additional holes to bend different length grabs for other cabooses.

 

When I get home and can dig through the tool box, I will try to post a photo of the jib so you can get a better idea of what I looks like and how it works.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


CA Santa Fe Mini Meet Feb. 6 with Redland Loop, Cajon during WWII and other presentations

Charles
 

The next California Mini Meet will be held on February 6. Due to changes that have been made at the San Bernardino Depot, we can no longer hold the Mini Meet there.
 
The new location will be:
Christ Lutheran Church of West Covina
311 South Citrus Street, West Covina
Exit San Bernardino Freeway (I-10) at Citrus, go south 1/8 mile
Map Link: http://tinyurl.com/ojmukxz
 
The day will begin with registration starting at 7:30 a.m. and the first presentation at 8:00 a.m. sharp.
 
As usual, we will have a great lineup of speakers, frequent breaks to visit vendors and view a large modular layout, and ample time for lunch. The program is expected to conclude at approximately 4:45 p.m.
 
Our speakers for the day will include:
    Warren Scholl - Training of Santa Fe Engineers
    Stuart Forsyth - Cajon At War: Operations Update
    Eric Smith - Keeping the Chief on Raton Pass
    Keith Jordan - Modeling the Redlands Loop
    Steve Crise - Cajon ln Photographs: 1960-1980
    Plus one additional speaker yet to be announced

Cost of admission is $30. We urge you to register in advance by mail as it makes our job much easier and avoids you having to stand in line on the morning of the event.
 
Do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions.
EVENT ORGANIZERS:
GeneRutledge 559-732-2560 atsfgene@... [atsfgene AT aol DOT com]
Charlie Schultz 909-596-5870 Ctschult@... [Ctschult AT aol DOT com]
 
PLEASE PRINT
 
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ADDRESS ___________________________________________________
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If you are registering for more than yourself, list additional names here:
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Registration Fee - $30.00 per person Pay by check or money order only (No credit card capabilities)
Make checks payable to Charlie Schultz
Mail to: Charlie Schultz, 2218 Virginia Ave, La Verne, CA 91750-2257
Phone 909-596-5870


This is a mini-meet of the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society. Lunch is on your own — several restaurants are nearby. There may be a few vendors but this is not intended to be a swap meet.


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I'll be there helping out.

Charley Hepperle  aka chdiecast



Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge

prr282
 


Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge is returning to the Desmond Hotel in Malvern, PA  (about 20 miles west of Philadelphia and convenient to the PA Turnpike and US 202), the same great hotel as previous years.  This year's dates are March 18-20, 2016.  Over 50 different clinics will be presented, along with operating sessions, vendors room, models display room, and a home layout tour.  Please visit our web site for full information:     www.rpmvalleyforge.com 

There you will find a list of vendors, complete timetable, hotel information, and a registration form.

Paul Backenstose
Chairman


Southern SU Diagram

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Does anyone here have, or know where I can find online, a general arrangement drawings for the Southern SU 36' wooden boxcar from the mid to late 1950s? In my 1958 ORER, I find the Southern still rostered 22 of these: 16 in series 153500-159889 and 6 in series 162000-169769. If possible I would like the find the numbers of cars still in service, and also match them to the proper end: T, Hutchins or "Murphy". Failing in that, could anyone please forward me the correct number of a Hutchins-end car still in revenue service circa 1957-1958? (I have a Westerfield Hutchins car on order.)

Thanks in advance.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


Re: New 3D printer

mwbauers
 

There are a number of nice compact models at under $350 today.

That 5-10 years might end up being 1-2 years.

Here’s one to look at..


and another…


Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Jan 7, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Jon Miller  wrote:


On 1/7/2016 2:14 AM, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:
a new printer

    There is also a crude one for $269.  In another 5/10 years every model railroader will have a 3D printer on his bench (grin)!


Re: New 3D printer

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 1/7/2016 2:14 AM, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:
a new printer

    There is also a crude one for $269.  In another 5/10 years every model railroader will have a 3D printer on his bench (grin)!

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: New 3D printer

mwbauers
 

With low cost laser cutters around the $500 level and at $100 for some models, someone can take the same idea and make a blade-less version of this 3d printer that should much cost less than the $6,000 of this more mechanical cutting 3d paper printer.

The future is certainly going to be interesting.

Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Jan 7, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Garth Groff wrote:

Friends,

Today the BBC has a feature on a new printer that uses layered paper to
make 3D models. At around $6,000 this is a bit steep, but the price is
bound to drop if the technology catches on. This might have great
possibilities for model railroads, especially buildings, as the photo
examples show.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35247318

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff


Re: cupola railings

mwbauers
 

I think you wish for a tool like this….

Or a DIY version with nails pounded into a board that has just the spacing over the outside of the nails you need for each grab you are bending . [use inner distance needed, minus the diameter of -one- of the nails to hammer the bending jig you need. Mark the board for that and hammer in the nail on the end of that measured line.]

There is the secret, the inside measurement of the bent grab you need, with the bending pins installed so that the outside of those pins is the distance you need for your bend.


Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Jan 7, 2016, at 10:16 AM, ed_mines wrote:


Most caboose kits direct you to bend a piece of wire requiring you to get at least 2 measurements exactly if you want the cupola railings to look good.


Using a whole package of wire I couldn't get those railings to look decent.


I've gotten nice results using Yarmouth eye bolts and "L" shaped pieces of wire.


AMB laserkits provide a template for the mounting holes which is an improvement. .

 


Re: cupola railings

Douglas Harding
 

Ed AMB provided a nice bending jig in their MSTL caboose kit, which I have modified to bend parts for other cabooses. Get or make a jig for consistent parts.

Doug Harding from my phone


From: ed_mines@... [STMFC]
Sent: ‎1/‎7/‎2016 8:16 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] cupola railings

 

Most caboose kits direct you to bend a piece of wire requiring you to get at least 2 measurements exactly if you want the cupola railings to look good.


Using a whole package of wire I couldn't get those railings to look decent.


I've gotten nice results using Yarmouth eye bolts and "L" shaped pieces of wire.


AMB laserkits provide a template for the mounting holes which is an improvement.


Ed Mines


[The entire original message is not included.]


cupola railings

ed_mines
 

Most caboose kits direct you to bend a piece of wire requiring you to get at least 2 measurements exactly if you want the cupola railings to look good.


Using a whole package of wire I couldn't get those railings to look decent.


I've gotten nice results using Yarmouth eye bolts and "L" shaped pieces of wire.


AMB laserkits provide a template for the mounting holes which is an improvement.


Ed Mines


B&LE kit

 

B&LE Speedwitch kit has been sold.  Thank you!  Hugh T. Guillaume


New 3D printer

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Today the BBC has a feature on a new printer that uses layered paper to make 3D models. At around $6,000 this is a bit steep, but the price is bound to drop if the technology catches on. This might have great possibilities for model railroads, especially buildings, as the photo examples show.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35247318

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


Re: Red Caboose Type103W

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Denis,

According to articles and correspondence I have in my files written by the late Richard Hendrickson (our freight car guru), the Red Caboose car, has only two prototypes. The majority of these were built for the U.S. Army Quartermaster Corps in 1951/52 by AC&F. There were 740 cars in USAX series 11635-12374. Later in the 1950s these became DODX cars of the same numbers. At least one car survives at the Feather River Railroad Museum as FR&W 12107 (the FR&W is the reporting mark of the museum).

Nearly identical cars were built for UTLX in 1951 as 39000-39499 with minor frame variations from the kit. This would probably be the best prototype for you. RC offered this car, some with white lettering. I have their number RC-3001-11 in yellow lettering. The correct lettering color for UTLX black cars was yellow. Yellow UTLX decals are available from several sources.

The best trucks/bogies for either car are probably ASF "Ride Control", a so-called Bettendorf truck. Athearn, Kadee and others make them.

Some additional cars were for other operators with dome platforms operated by SHPX, GATX and ACDX. Some of these used Barber S-2 trucks.


Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


Re: Red Caboose Type103W

golden1014
 

Hello Denis,


Please contact me offline if you need help with this model.  My e-mail is Golden1014@....  Your best starting point is the RMJ article mentioned by Al Brown.  That should answer most of your questions about the prototype car.  I believe it is available online at the Trainlife site at http://www.trainlife.com/.  Click ont he railroad magazine archive at the right and you should be able to find the article.  If you have difficulty getting it let me know and I'll try and get you a copy.


For your reference, here is Al's e-mail: "The prototype of the Red Caboose tank car was built for the U.S. Army Transportation Corps between 1949 and '52. See Hendrickson, RMJ 4/96 pp 52-56..." 


The Red Caboose model is only accurate for a few prototypes, but it's a nice model.  I don't have one but I can help you with truck (bogie) choices and also finding replacement parts.


Also for your reference, it's considered polite to sign your e-mails with your full name and city/state/country.  That way we can reply to you appropriately.  On some lists it is a required step when posting.


Looking forward to your e-mail!

John


John Golden

Albersbach, Germany




Red caboose type 103w

Paul Catapano
 

A bogie is a colonel but only in "March".
Be happy in your work.

Paul Catapano
Winchester, Va.


Looking for Jim Kinkaid

Jim King
 

Can someone, assuming Jim is not on this list, provide Mr. Kinkaid’s email addy off-list?  The only one I have is from Cessna and I’m not sure he still works there.

 

Jim King

(828) 777-5619

www.smokymountainmodelworks.com

 


Re: Red Caboose Type103W

al_brown03
 

The prototype of the Red Caboose tank car was built for the U.S. Army Transportation Corps  between 1949 and '52. See Hendrickson, RMJ 4/96 pp 52-56, and Kaminski, "AC&F" p 105.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Red Caboose Type103W

Denis Kahl
 

Hi,

Glad to have provided some entertainment for the new year. A bogey is also a spook, ghost etc. Next time I will try and give greater thought to the audience I am writing for.

As the paint scheme is bogus the truck/bogie choice as has been observed is a free choice which makes it easy though a bettendorf is what I would pick. Thinking further perhaps a strip and repaint might be a better option which would make the removal of the part line along the top of the tank easier.

Cheers

Denis Kahl

Further SW than the Solomons


Toronto Railway Prototype Modellers Meet

Richard MCQUADE
 


The annual Toronto Railway Prototype Modellers Meet will be held on Saturday, April 9th from 8:30 am to 4:00pm. (Please note that it will be in April, not March as per previous years.) The day consists of clinics by prototype modellers and the unique “show and tell” component, an open forum for modellers to discuss the display models. Each attendee is urged to bring a model, whether completed or not, for this, although this is not mandatory. The Meet’s location is the same as last year: Humber College, 205 Humber College Blvd, Toronto, ON M9W 5L7 - North Campus, Building B, rooms B201& B202. The admission is $15 and parking is free. For further information check our website at:   https://torontoprototypemodellers.wordpress.com/  or contact Brian Gauer at: bdgauer@...



Re: Red Caboose Type103W

Mikebrock
 

Alex Schneider says:


"Bogies is British nomenclature for what we call "trucks"."

Yes, but the American use of the term is used to represent enemy aircraft...particularly during our time frame... and, of course the close proximity to the Southwest Pacific lends itself to that interpretation especially since the STMFC is about North American frt cars. OTOH. none of it seems appropriate for the STMFC.

Mike Brock





: "'Mike Brock' brockm@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Red Caboose Type103W


Denis [ no last name I guess ] writes from somewhere near Guadalcanal:

"I purchased at a train show a secondhand un-built Red Caboose Type 103W
10,000 gallon tank car lettered for Richfield with a built date of 8-49.


I have two issues with the kit


1) The bogies are missing but there were plastic wheels now disposed of. "

What's a bogie?

Mike Brock...who has such a kit and will provide info AFTER Prototype Rails
and pending release from the asylum




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