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Re: Tahoe 16.1 16.2 16.3 trucks

Jim Hayes
 

I agree with Tim. It would be great to see an update to the Sunshine list. I have several updates pending include to the Tahoe list. However, it's been so long since I last update the site that I've forgotten how to upload my changes to production and I haven't taken the time to research it. I know it's a simple problem about a password, but...

I've been very busy lately with remodeling and health problems with both myself and my wife. I'll get the site updated eventually but can't say when.

Jim

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 


It would be great to see an update to the Tahoe truck info here...
http://sunshinekits.com/tahoe.html

I bought two of the "modified" NP 16.x trucks from Andy at Cocoa Beach
but neither one of us could tell the difference between the purported
"Version 2" and "Version 3" trucks so I'm really not sure which ones
I bought. Can anyone give precise description or offer photos pointing
out the differences between the truck versions?

The trucks are magnificent, by the way. :-)

Tim O'Connor



Re: LV "wrong way" boxcar/campcar

Layout Tour
 

Scott & Eric,

 

It looks like a modification for work service to the steel plate ends on the 78000-79499 series wrong way box cars.  Ted Culotta did a pretty extensive discussion of these cars in the Feb. 2006 RMC.

 

Chuck Davis

Norfolk VA


Cocoa Beach 2016 Photos

dh30973
 


Tahoe 16.1 16.2 16.3 trucks

Tim O'Connor
 

It would be great to see an update to the Tahoe truck info here...
http://sunshinekits.com/tahoe.html

I bought two of the "modified" NP 16.x trucks from Andy at Cocoa Beach
but neither one of us could tell the difference between the purported
"Version 2" and "Version 3" trucks so I'm really not sure which ones
I bought. Can anyone give precise description or offer photos pointing
out the differences between the truck versions?

The trucks are magnificent, by the way. :-)

Tim O'Connor


Re: R-40-10 reefers?

grangerroads@...
 

Well, it required about 10 seconds to recognize the value of the search page and to bookmark it. Dick, thank you.

-Brian Chapman
Cedar Rapids, Iowa


Re: R-40-10 reefers?

Dick Harley
 

In addition to Tony's book, CBCs and the IRM Library as a source for R-40-10 drawings, the Calif. St. RR Museum Library also has R-40-10 drawings available.
Go to :
http://csrrm.crewnoble.com/SearchDrawingsBasic.htm
and enter R-40-10 in the "Description" box.

There is also a link there to contact the library for further info.

Additionally, I have posted prototype photos, prototype data and a few model photos on my SmugMug site:
https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/


Enjoy,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA


Re: N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube

Greg Martin
 

Dennis,
 
We were talking about this as a very common load fro empty stock cars in CCB last Friday morning while I was putting out my ACCURAIL GN stock car, the mineral red one. A noted modeler said he really couldn't use stock cars on his road, and I ask if his road had any brick manufacturing plants online in Mid-Indiana or points towards Kentucky and he said he did, I told him he needed stock cars and for hauling, coal, lumber and hay to name a few.
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 1/16/2016 11:34:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, STMFC@... writes:
 

Noted at 4:11, a man using a hand truck to load brick into a ... stockcar.

Dennis Storzek


Re: N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube

Dennis Storzek
 

Noted at 4:11, a man using a hand truck to load brick into a ... stockcar.

Dennis Storzek


Re: N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube - correct address

MICHAEL <michaelcalo3403@...>
 

Group -

The correct address is




Mike Calo
Glen Burnie MD  (just south of Baltimore)
"Things will get better when chickens lay bricks instead of eggs"


From: "paul.doggett2472@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 2:25:12 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube

 



It says  video not found :-(
Paul Doggett UK



Sent from Samsung mobile

"Gary vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" wrote:
 

It's a fast paced film and the light wood baskets used for vegetables are included as are the unique shaped raw tobacco containers.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xf9CTEGShE

Mike Brock and his crew put on a wonderful program at Cocoa Beach. My thanks to you all.

gary laakso
South of Mike Brock




Re: N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube

paul.doggett2472@...
 


It says  video not found :-(
Paul Doggett UK



Sent from Samsung mobile

"Gary vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

It's a fast paced film and the light wood baskets used for vegetables are included as are the unique shaped raw tobacco containers.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xf9CTEGShE

Mike Brock and his crew put on a wonderful program at Cocoa Beach. My thanks to you all.

gary laakso
South of Mike Brock


Looking for Frisco decals

bflynnd1
 

Hello,

If anyone has an extra set or two of Jerry Glow or Sunshine decals for the Frisco Howe Truss boxcar that they would be willing to sell me, please contact me off list at bflynn562@....

Thank you,

Brian Flynn


Re: N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube

gary laakso
 

Yes, that is it!  Thank you very much.
 
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
 

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube
 
 

Looks like the S should be a 5 if your talking about this promo film?

Ken Schanz

 


On Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:19 PM, "'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Ditto. 
Schuyler
Was anyone else able to view this video.

I get a notice that it's unavailable .

Mike Bauers


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 11:07 AM, "Gary vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
>
> It's a fast paced film and the light wood baskets used for vegetables are included as are the unique shaped raw tobacco containers.
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xf9CTEGShE



Re: N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube

Kenneth Schanz
 

On Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:19 PM, "'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Ditto. 
Schuyler
Was anyone else able to view this video.

I get a notice that it's unavailable .

Mike Bauers


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 11:07 AM, "Gary vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
>
> It's a fast paced film and the light wood baskets used for vegetables are included as are the unique shaped raw tobacco containers.
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xf9CTEGShE



Re: N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Ditto. 

Schuyler

Was anyone else able to view this video.

I get a notice that it's unavailable .

Mike Bauers


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 11:07 AM, "Gary vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
>
> It's a fast paced film and the light wood baskets used for vegetables are included as are the unique shaped raw tobacco containers.
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xf9CTEGShE


Re: N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube

mwbauers
 

Was anyone else able to view this video.

I get a notice that it's unavailable .


Mike Bauers

On Jan 16, 2016, at 11:07 AM, "Gary vasa0vasa@earthlink.net [STMFC]" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

It's a fast paced film and the light wood baskets used for vegetables are included as are the unique shaped raw tobacco containers.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xf9CTEGShE


N&W 1950 Fast Freight on YouTube

gary laakso
 

It's a fast paced film and the light wood baskets used for vegetables are included as are the unique shaped raw tobacco containers.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xf9CTEGShE

Mike Brock and his crew put on a wonderful program at Cocoa Beach. My thanks to you all.

gary laakso
South of Mike Brock


Re: Buckling Running Board

Tim O'Connor
 

My first attempt to fix this is to place a very straight piece of
wood I have (about 1/4" x 3/4" x 6") onto the running board and hold
it flat in place after applying tiny amounts of adhesive on the
supports with Bill's "insect specimen" pin. Surprisingly this often
removes the waviness and straightens out the running board. I hold
the board in place with weights or whatever else I can manage while
the glue hardens.

Removal is a last resort for me, but ymmv.

Tim

If you can get the complete roof walk off without damage ( use of a very sharp scalpel etc ) then re- attach using canopy glue.
Paul

A new RTR BLI 40' boxcar has just arrived with the metal running board buckled upward. It's still attached at both ends but the center portion has lifted off the supports. The running board is somewhat "springy" and when I try to push down on it, the board pops back up and won't lie flat as if it's a bit too long.

I'd like to use canopy glue to re-attach the board but I'm concerned I won't be able to eliminate the possible extra length if that's the problem. Any suggestions before I make a mess of the roof?

George Corral
La Grange, KY


Poll results

Pierre Oliver
 

After a couple of days I can share with you the unscientific results of my little poll.
You can see the results on the blog. http://elgincarshops.blogspot.ca/2016/01/poll-results.html

Thanks

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Update from Speedwitch

Ted Culotta
 

I replied directly to Scott, but thought others might have the same question. The prices that appear in the cart are the discounted prices - $45.00 for Vol. 1 (vs. $60 regularly) and $37.50 for Vol. 2 (vs. $50 regularly). I will keep taking orders through the print date of Jan 31.

Cheers,
Ted

--
Ted Culotta
Speedwitch Media


Re: An informal poll

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <pullmanboss@...> wrote :



John Barry wrote:

> I vote for one piece bodies with separate floors.  If there are end variations, false ends.

That's a different matter than making the ends separate for ease of painting. With one piece body resin kits, where you are presumably looking for more accuracy than with even high-end injection molded kits, the practice is to make a separate body pattern for each variation. (If there are end variations, there are probably other variations that the plastic manufacturer will ignore but the resin manufacturer will include.)
=============

The same way that injection molding tooling can be set up with different changeable end inserts, so you get one piece bodies... and other one piece bodies with different ends.

People keep talking about those "high precision" injection molded kits, but in reality, differential shrinkage has to be dealt with there, too. The shrinkage of injection molded styrene is expressed as a range, typically 0.4% - 0.6%. That 0.2% difference is .002" per inch, or .010"- .012" over the length of the typical 40' boxcar in HO. Doesn't sound like much, but it needs to be taken in account, or problems will result. I've gone through this twice over the years, using different solutions for different situations.

This discussion started asking about refrigerator car models, but no one ever defined if we were talking wood or steel ends. Separate wood ends (or sides, in the case of the Accurail wood reefer) are really hard to do. The color separation is supposed to be right at the outside corner. There is no overlap to provide thickness to either part. The logical conclusion would be to do mitered corners, which the resin guys will just hate. The problem is, if the separate part is .010" short, that's going to be one ugly gap, with no easy way to close it. The Accurail car looks like it has mitered corners, and they are, for most of their thickness. The mitered portion of the side, however, is designed to be .010" shorter than the recess it fits in. The very surface of the part becomes a .010" thick rectangular bead, .010" wide, to cover this gap. That puts the color separation one scale inch around the corner on the end, and if the side is slightly too long, it will just appear that the last siding board is pushed a bit past the corner. Whether the side is a bit too long or too short, it doesn't show a gap.

The steel reefer we did a couple years ago had some different concerns. Steel ends that model W corner posts have enough thickness to be separate parts, and since a lot of steel reefers had aluminum color roofs, we decided to make the sides AND ends separate parts. The roof is molded with the sub sides and ends to yield a rigid structure. The same shrinkage concerns still apply. In this case, the sides are designed to be .010" longer than the sub-sides, so the ends will always go tight against the visible side. The ends, being only 1.3" wide, will only vary .002" or so, not really visible, BUT, the overhanging roof has to be long enough to look correct even if the shortest roof is used with the longest sides.

The differential shrinkage of resin parts is likely 5X as great, which becomes a really significant amount. While the shrinkage of the actual curing resin is relatively consistent, the rubber molds shrink throughout their lives. I can see why resin casters would really rather do one piece bodies.

Dennis Storzek

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