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Re: Machining car end?

grangerroads@...
 

> Rhino should certainly be able to handle the model generation... What are you using for CAM software, if I may ask? <

Vector CAD/CAM. It has a 3D module, but at the time I bought the package I didn't buy that.

You know the old adage, if you can't say anything nice about anybody, don't say anything? . . .

-Brian C.
Cedar Rapids, Iowa


Re: Black Cement Roofs

George Courtney
 

Thanks for the replies.

  I noticed my NKP kit also is a Viking roof so of the four cars I have with black roofs three are Viking roofs.  The Santa Fe car is a Murphy roof with running boards painted the car color.  I'm modeling 1953 so I'll need a well faded black roof from Mr. Golden's fine information.

Thanks,
George Courtney


Re: NYC USRA DESIGN STEEL BOXCARS

ROGER HINMAN
 

NYC drawing Q53551 is for AB brake system retrofits on many of these cars.  According to that drawing the brake cylinder and the reservoir are on the same side of the car. the valve is on the other side of the car directly opposite the reservoir. This makes for a very clean routing of the pipes.
The drawing is available from the NYCHS.

Roger Hinman

On Jan 26, 2016, at 11:45 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE PARDIEW001@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Ted Culotta's STEAM ERA FREIGHT CARS REERENCE MANUAL VOLUME 1 has several good shots of the NYC USTA design steel
boxcars. The cars in several shots have been converted to an AB brake system. In these shots it is clear that the air reservoir is on
the same side of the cara as the brake cylinder. What I cannot determine is the location of the striple valve. Any help would
be greatly app[reciated.

Thanks in advance for any help:

Bill Pardie



Re: E-Bay Decals/ Decals that are too small

Allen Ferguson
 

We can resize most of our HO decals to TT. Email me off group 
Allen Ferguson 
Black Cat Publishing- Model Railroad Decals



Re: Machining car end?

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <grangerroads@...> wrote :

Dennis,

I have Rhino 3D but do not have 3D CAM software. And, I haven't yet taken the time to learn much of Rhino. I create drawings in AutoCAD 2D, recreate them in Inventor 3D to check part fit and appearance, then proceed to CNC-cut parts and assemble them for resin casting.

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Rhino should certainly be able to handle the model generation... What are you using for CAM software, if I may ask?

Dennis Storzek


Re: L&N hopper far from home

midrly
 

Probably CN company service coal for the Spadina or Mimico roundhouse. 

Steve Lucas.


Re: Machining car end?

grangerroads@...
 

Dennis,

I have Rhino 3D but do not have 3D CAM software. And, I haven't yet taken the time to learn much of Rhino. I create drawings in AutoCAD 2D, recreate them in Inventor 3D to check part fit and appearance, then proceed to CNC-cut parts and assemble them for resin casting.

So far, I've cut simple round, smooth contours by manually placing tool paths at incremental cut depths of .001". Doing this with an IDE would be tedious, I know. . . .

-Brian Chapman
Cedar Rapids, Iowa


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Dick Harley Reefer Photos

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Historian and modeler Dick Harley of Laguna Beach, CA, has a number of excellent PFE refrigerator car photos on his website (https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/) as well as other railroad-related items. The photos concentrate on details.

 

Here are the links to the refrigerator car photos:

 

Wood sheathed ice bunker reefers:

https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFETrainPhotos/PFE-Wood-Ice-Reefers

There are several underbody shots of drains and wheel-driven fan systems.

 

Steel sheathed ice bunker reefers:

https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFETrainPhotos/PFE-Steel-Ice-Reefers

 

Mechanical reefers:

https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/PFETrainPhotos/PFE-Mechanical-Reefers

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Re: USATC Long Flat

Benjamin Hom
 

Gary Ray asked:
"My friend is doing a clinic on US military cars on German railways after WWII. He has models and photos of the 50’ USATC Long Flat (US Specs) but would like to find a dimensional drawing. I’ve searched the internet without success. He believes the 50’ Walther’s Trainline flat (http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/931-1602) is similar. Any help in locating a dimensional drawing or more info on the Walther’s flat (prototype) would be greatly appreciated."

Could you provide a link to a prototype photo? As for the Walthers Trainline flat (not to be confused with their GSC flat car, http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/910-5100), it's a direct knockoff of the Athearn 50 ft flat car down to the rivet pattern, number of stake pockets, and oddball handbrake. This model has no prototype. I'm very skeptical that it's a match to the prototype in question, but this model is coincidentally close to a few prototypes, so it's possible . I'll need to see a photo to make the call.


Ben Hom


Re: Machining car end?

Dennis Storzek
 

Do you have 3D surfacing capabilities?

Dennis Storzek


Machining car end?

grangerroads@...
 

I work only in TT scale (yeah, it's alive, barely, but friends of the scale are attempting a revival), one of my CAD/CAM projects at the moment is a transition era refrigerator car. Perhaps someone here has CNC-cut Dreadnaught ends and might be willing to give me a tip or two about approaching such a cut?

Thanks much,

Brian Chapman
Cedar Rapids, Iowa



USATC Long Flat

Gary Ray
 

Hi,

My friend is doing a clinic on US military cars on German railways after WWII.  He has models and photos of the 50’ USATC Long Flat (US Specs) but would like to find a dimensional drawing.  I’ve searched the internet without success.  He believes the 50’ Walther’s Trainline flat (http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/931-1602) is similar.  Any help in locating a dimensional drawing or more info on the Walther’s flat (prototype) would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Gary Ray


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Re: NYC USRA DESIGN STEEL BOXCARS

Todd Sullivan
 

I should also have asked about the car numbers in the photos.  NYC had many series of these cars, not always the same.

Todd Sullivan
Liverpool, NY


Re: NYC USRA DESIGN STEEL BOXCARS

Todd Sullivan
 

Bill,

What era are the photos?

I photographed some NYC 'USRA' survivors in company service in the early 1980s at Selkirk Yard, and built a Westerfield kit using those photos and some builders photos as a guide.  My photos are in storage, but the model is here and has the cylinder on one side with the AB valve near it on the same side, and the reservoir on the opposite side.  I might have gotten it wrong, but I'm pretty careful about that stuff.

Todd Sullivan
Liverpool, NY


Re: Black Cement Roofs

golden1014
 

Hi George,


The black roof is correct for SAL as-delivered 1937 cars (SAL B-8 and B-9 class).


If you are modeling a car repainted in the mid/late 1950s, the roof should probably be freight car brown.  Photo evidence shows that the railroad repainted the entire carbody with a freight car brown ("BC Red") in that era.  


BTW, all the cars were delivered with steel running boards. 


On Rob Adams' Steam Freight Cars website there is a list of 1937 cars, made by Ed Hawkins and I think Ted Culotta as well, that covers the basic construction features of each SAL car series.  You will find that spreadsheet very helpful.  I have a half-dozen copies squirreled away around the house, and one buried in a jar in the back yard.  


Also, I did a rather extensive article in the SCL Modeler magazine some years ago and can help you with painting and lettering depending on your era.  If you want a copy of the article let me know.


John Golden

Albersbach, Germany


Re: Black Cement Roofs

Ed Hawkins
 

gsc3@... [STMFC] wrote:

I've opened a SAL 1937 car kit and found a black cement roof. I think this must have been swapped with another kit but can't determine which kit. Besides Santa Fe, NKP and perhaps Erie can anyone tell me of another road that had the 1937 40' Boxcar, single or double door with a black cement roof?

Thanks,

George Courtney
George,
From the Pullman-Standard bills of materials for lot numbers 5768, 5803 (double doors), 5804, and 5806, the following paint identical specs were used for all four orders.

DuPont SAL Standard Color - Sides, ends, underframe, trucks
Black (Car Cement) - Roof
White (Snolite) - Stencils
Fire Plug Red - Monogram background

Repainted cars by railroad car shops are another matter.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Black Cement Roofs

Tim O'Connor
 

C&O (Viking), C&EI (Viking), W&LE (non-standard car)

I've opened a SAL 1937 car kit and found a black cement roof. I think this must have been swapped with another kit but can't determine which kit. Besides Santa Fe, NKP and perhaps Erie can anyone tell me of another road that had the 1937 40' Boxcar, single or double door with a black cement roof?


Thanks,

George Courtney


Re: L&N hopper far from home

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <tony@...> wrote :



    Certainly by World War I, and I believe earlier, stencils were used, then painters filled in the "stencil gaps" by hand.
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It was also possible to use lengths of wire in place of the stencil bars; this was often done when the stencils were made of sheet metal. The relatively thin round wire allowed the paint to flow around and under them, so there were no gaps to touch up, although on a newly stenciled car you could see the marks the wires left in the paint surface.

For those wondering, before the days when spray painting was common, stenciling was commonly done with "stencil brushes" round short bristled things that looked like stiff shaving brushes, used with a stippling motion. The paint used was commonly called "stencil paste" and was heavier bodied and less runny than standard paint. It was slow drying and tended to self level as it dried.

Dennis Storzek

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