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Weathering Trucks

Eric Hansmann
 

Armand,

I posted techniques on my blog that have worked for me. Here's the link.

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2015/06/18/wheelsets-and-trucks/


Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX





On February 8, 2016 at 3:50 AM "'Armand' armprem@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:



Speaking of trucks,how are they best weathered/ Armand Premo


Re: Resin Car Works Tank Car kits

Rich C
 

Guys, according to Eric, all the kits still available, but are temporarily out of stock, awaiting detail parts etc. True the Hooker tanker is sold out.

Rich Christie


On Sunday, February 7, 2016 8:55 PM, "LOUIS WHITELEY octoraro1@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
WTB Resin Car Works kit 1.05.

By the time I finally figured out which one I need, they were all gone!  Did anybody get an extra 1.05 Hooker 8K kit that he or she would part with?

Lou Whiteley
Lawrenceville, NJ

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On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:08 PM, "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
A little bird with knowledge and authority told me RCW is down to eleven 8K and twenty 7K AC&F acid tank car kits.  The caster is bored casting them and photo-etched parts are exhausted. It will be a long time if ever before these come around again.

Just say'in
Bill Welch 





Re: What do these trucks look like?

armprem
 


Speaking of trucks,how are they best weathered/ Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 12:48 AM
Subject: [STMFC] What do these trucks look like?

Good evening--Back on Dec 11, in a stream on the weights of different trucks, Mike Schleigh used these trucks as examples:

Railway Truck Corp. Snub-Up----7240 pounds
    Dual Control----7160 pounds
    ASF A-3----7140 pounds
    Barber S-2 Stabilized----7380

I can easily identify HO models for the last two using Richard Hendrickson's HO SCALE FREIGHT TRUCKS and Tahoe Model Works' listing. However, the first two are unknowns. Can anyone point to models of the Snub-Up and Dual Control?

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


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Re: K Brakes

Jack Mullen
 

Ted,
Thanks for the quick reply. I'd been planning to get the PRRPs, but just hadn't gotten around to it. So, spurred by your note, I went to your site, ordered and downloaded the first three PRPs. Very quick process.  

I've been browsing in them, and can recommend them highly. All those familiar with the Essential Freight Cars series will have a general idea of what to expect, but in greater detail and with more, and higher rez photos. 

Yes, there are two decent photos of cars with the hybrid AB conversion. The coverage of the Murphy XLA and Flexible roofs in the L&N volume will be a useful reference.
I'm looking forward to future titles.

Jack Mullen


What do these trucks look like?

pennsylvania1954
 

Good evening--Back on Dec 11, in a stream on the weights of different trucks, Mike Schleigh used these trucks as examples:

Railway Truck Corp. Snub-Up----7240 pounds
    Dual Control----7160 pounds
    ASF A-3----7140 pounds
    Barber S-2 Stabilized----7380

I can easily identify HO models for the last two using Richard Hendrickson's HO SCALE FREIGHT TRUCKS and Tahoe Model Works' listing. However, the first two are unknowns. Can anyone point to models of the Snub-Up and Dual Control?

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL



Re: Resin Car Works Tank Car kits

LOUIS WHITELEY <octoraro1@...>
 

WTB Resin Car Works kit 1.05.

By the time I finally figured out which one I need, they were all gone!  Did anybody get an extra 1.05 Hooker 8K kit that he or she would part with?

Lou Whiteley
Lawrenceville, NJ

octoraro1@...



On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:08 PM, "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
A little bird with knowledge and authority told me RCW is down to eleven 8K and twenty 7K AC&F acid tank car kits.  The caster is bored casting them and photo-etched parts are exhausted. It will be a long time if ever before these come around again.

Just say'in
Bill Welch 



Re: Lube markings practices?

Dennis Storzek
 

The "Journal Pac", or references to "lubricators" also came very late in the history of solid bearings, post 1960 IIRC. Both are references to proprietary journal pads rather than loose waste.

Pre 1960 was just RPKD, date, and station symbol stenciled in contrasting color in the vicinity of the right hand bolster. Roads could paint out the old data however they wanted; some roads tried to match the car color (red or black), some roads just used their standard FC color on everything, some roads used black on everything.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Lube markings practices?

Douglas Harding
 

Jim are you asking about the COTS stencil? COTS stands for Clean, Oil, Test, and Stencil.  

According to http://www.hosam.com/mod/rsdet.html the COTS stencil did not come in to being until 1966, well beyond the time interests of this group.

 

Prior to that the car would be stenciled just above the truck with information about repacking the bearings, ie the RPKD stencil with date and location and/or railroad. Some shops painted a black patch over the old information before stenciling the new information, but a study of boxcars photos does not show a consistency in the lettering location or terminology used. Some used “Journal Pac” in their stencil.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Lube markings practices?

Jim Betz
 

Hi,


  Are there any documents available online that discuss/provide

the manner in which lube updates were marked ... over time?


  For example - I just looked at a car on eBay that has a lube

date added to it that was done by the use of "a patch of black

paint that is then stenciled (decaled) with the date".  This was

a car that was built to AAR 1937 standards ... but had been

lubed in Yermo in the middle 60's.


  So I'm wondering if I can "just change the year of the lube

date and it is good to go for a steam era car" ???  Or is the

way this particular model is done applicable only to cars

that were lubed off line in the era it is done as?

  Or do I also have to change the 'method' that the lube

date was done in order to be prototypically correct for the

era this group is focused on (and myself also!).


  And I'm guessing that there might also have been some

changes in terms of the location of the lube data over the

decades.  I'm hoping that it is not - but don't want to bid

on it without knowing how much work I need to do ...


                                    ****


  Yes, I know that there is a large component of "it depends

upon which RR you are talking about" ... I'm looking more for

some "general practices" (if there were any) and also with

respect to the "believability" of the data and the way it is

applied to the car - because it's a lot easier to just change

the year that to redo the entire lube data.

                                                                               - Jim B. 


P.S. An alternative set of answers would be to learn what

       methods the UP did - over the years/decades.  I am

       definitely not "a UP guy".


Re: F&C PRR F29 flat car build

mwbauers
 

Very nice! Very well done.

Thank you!

Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Feb 7, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Ted Culotta wrote:


I have posted part one of a chronicle of my construction of an F&C PRR F29 depressed center flat car. For inquiring minds, the post can be viewed at:

http://prototopics.blogspot.com

Cheers,
Ted


Re: K Brakes

Eric Hansmann
 

Brian,

After reviewing several images of these Wheeling box cars, I think they actually used the XM-1 underframe arrangement. 

Note the cross bearer attachment points on the sill. The use of KC rather than KD brake components. And there is an odd sheet metal piece that is an attachment point for a brake lever. These seem to follow similar details on XM-1 cars. Paging through RPCyc Vol 18 offers an easy comparison. 

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX

On Feb 7, 2016, at 12:02 PM, brianleppert@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Some of Wheeling and Lake Erie's 1923 A.R.A. proposed-standard steel box cars used this half cylinder when converted to AB brakes.  NKP later owned these cars.  Photos can be found in Railway Prototype Cyclopedia #18.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


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I was particularly intrigued by the parts shown which allow reuse of the cylinder and reservoir in converting K brakes to AB, blanking the end of the reservoir where the triple valve was attached, and adding the AB emergency reservoir by itself. I don't believe I've seen that before. Now if someone can find a photo of such an installation...

Jack Mullen


Re: K Brakes

brianleppert@att.net
 

Some of Wheeling and Lake Erie's 1923 A.R.A. proposed-standard steel box cars used this half cylinder when converted to AB brakes.  NKP later owned these cars.  Photos can be found in Railway Prototype Cyclopedia #18.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


---In STMFC@..., <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote :

I was particularly intrigued by the parts shown which allow reuse of the cylinder and reservoir in converting K brakes to AB, blanking the end of the reservoir where the triple valve was attached, and adding the AB emergency reservoir by itself. I don't believe I've seen that before. Now if someone can find a photo of such an installation...

Jack Mullen


Re: K Brakes

Ted Culotta
 

Ask and you shall receive...There are photos of a couple of cars so converted in my Prototype Railroad Profile on the L&N's ARA single sheathed box cars:


Cheers,
Ted

--
Ted Culotta
Speedwitch Media


F&C PRR F29 flat car build

Ted Culotta
 

I have posted part one of a chronicle of my construction of an F&C PRR F29 depressed center flat car. For inquiring minds, the post can be viewed at:


Cheers,
Ted

--
Ted Culotta
Speedwitch Media


Re: K Brakes

Jack Mullen
 

Brian,

Thanks very much for providing this info.  

Page 8 of the AB booket should answer Mike Schleigh's question from a couple weeks ago regarding an AB  10x12 cylinder with a lever bracket on the head. The K cylinder booklet shows the K-schedule equivalent on p.6.

I was particularly intrigued by the parts shown which allow reuse of the cylinder and reservoir in converting K brakes to AB, blanking the end of the reservoir where the triple valve was attached, and adding the AB emergency reservoir by itself. I don't believe I've seen that before. Now if someone can find a photo of such an installation...

Jack Mullen


K Brakes

brianleppert@att.net
 

I have uploaded two more Westinghouse Air Brake Co. Part Catalogs to our files section.  One catalog covers Type K-1 and K-2 Triple Valves and the other covers the associated 8"x12" and 10"x12" freight brake cylinders and reservoirs.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV



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