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ATSF Bx-26
Ted Culotta
Another update as more stuff gets back int the fold: the Santa Fe Bx-26 box cars are back in stock, although in modest quantities for the present. Cheers,
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Re: Unicel 1950 and 1951 box cars/refrigerator cars
Richard Townsend
You are right about Ambroid, but IIRC there were no decals, with the sides being printed.
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message----- From: Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] To: STMFC Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2016 12:56 pm Subject: Re: [STMFC] Unicel 1950 and 1951 box cars/refrigerator cars
Dave,
Years ago Ambroid (IIRC) offered the Unicel car(s) in their 1 of 5000 series kits. Your friend might find one of these on Ebay, or at a swap meet. The instructions are really what he wants from the kit, which should give painting instructions. Decals, if they are still there, are likely to be toast. Yours Aye, Garth Groff On 2/9/16 7:44 AM, 'North Model
Railroad Supplies' nmrs@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Re: Unicel 1950 and 1951 box cars/refrigerator cars
The decals might be rejuvenated with Microscale decal liquid.
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Thanks! -- Brian Ehni From: STMFC List <STMFC@...> on behalf of STMFC List <STMFC@...> Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@...> Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM To: STMFC List <STMFC@...> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Unicel 1950 and 1951 box cars/refrigerator cars Dave, Years ago Ambroid (IIRC) offered the Unicel car(s) in their 1 of 5000 series kits. Your friend might find one of these on Ebay, or at a swap meet. The instructions are really what he wants from the kit, which should give painting instructions. Decals, if they are still there, are likely to be toast. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
On 2/9/16 7:44 AM, 'North Model Railroad Supplies' nmrs@... [STMFC] wrote:
A friend of mine is working on the Unicel 1950 and 1951 box cars/refrigerator cars that had bodies constructed of plywood laminated with plastic, if I understand him properly. They were apparently manufactured by PSCC in 1950 and MAY have gone to the ACL a few years later. Apparently the car lettering and paint schemes are different, plus # 1950 has ice hatches, whilst # 1951 does not. Either or both may have a silver, white, or blue roof - photos do not make this clear. He is designing decals and is looking for info on the lettering on either or both of these cars. Plus he’s looking for good pictures/ dimensions for the cars' details, so an accurate model can be made of each - this includes the corner steps, coupler mounts, and the removable refrigeration unit mounted under #1951. His aim is to scratchbuild models of both these cars in HO. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Cheers Dave North [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Unicel 1950 and 1951 box cars/refrigerator cars
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Dave,
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Years ago Ambroid (IIRC) offered the Unicel car(s) in their 1 of 5000 series kits. Your friend might find one of these on Ebay, or at a swap meet. The instructions are really what he wants from the kit, which should give painting instructions. Decals, if they are still there, are likely to be toast. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
On 2/9/16 7:44 AM, 'North Model
Railroad Supplies' nmrs@... [STMFC] wrote:
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The Winter 2016 Keystone Modeler (TKM) is available
Folks,
The Winter 2016 issue of The Keystone Modeler (TKM #95), the free modeling eZine of the Pennsylvania Railroad Technical and Historical Society, is now available online.
Direct link to TKM #95: http://www.prrths.com/Keystone%20Modeler/Keystone_Modeler_PDFs/TKM%20No.%2095%20-%20Winter%202016.pdf
These links have been tested so if you have problems downloading, please contact me OFF-LIST.
Regards Bruce
Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/ "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: GN Omaha orange
Pierre Oliver
Yes indeed, how about S46.
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Sorry, should have looked at the website. Now for the jumping through hoops that is the process of getting that stuff into the "Great White North". Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com On 09/02/2016 8:51 AM, 'William
Darnaby' wdarnaby@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Re: GN Omaha orange
william darnaby
How about Scalecoat S46, GN Empire Builder Orange?
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Bill Darnaby
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:26 AM To: "resinfreightcars "@yahoogroups.com; STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] GN Omaha orange Can anyone suggest a reasonable match in Scalecoat for the GN Omaha orange? And yes, it must be Scalecoat! :-) It's a brass model and nothing bakes onto brass like Scalecoat. Thanks -- Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com ------------------------------------ Posted by: Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links
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Re: GN Omaha orange
Pierre Oliver
Well that makes it easy!
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Thanks Brian Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com On 2/09/16 8:45 AM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI
bpehni@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Re: GN Omaha orange
S1046 - Scalecoat I G N Empire Builder Orange 1 oz. Bottle
S2046 - Scalecoat II G N Empire Builder Orange 1 oz. Bottle The above are hyperlinks to Minuteman Scale Models, the current owners of Scalecoat. Thanks! -- Brian Ehni From: STMFC List <STMFC@...> on behalf of STMFC List <STMFC@...> Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@...> Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 7:25 AM To: <"resinfreightcars "@yahoogroups.com>, STMFC List <STMFC@...> Subject: [STMFC] GN Omaha orange Can anyone suggest a reasonable match in Scalecoat for the GN Omaha orange? And yes, it must be Scalecoat! :-) It's a brass model and nothing bakes onto brass like Scalecoat. Thanks -- Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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GN Omaha orange
Pierre Oliver
Can anyone suggest a reasonable match in Scalecoat for the GN Omaha orange?
And yes, it must be Scalecoat! :-) It's a brass model and nothing bakes onto brass like Scalecoat. Thanks -- Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
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Re: Unicel 1950 and 1951 box cars/refrigerator cars
Benjamin Hom
Dave North asked: "A friend of mine is working on the Unicel 1950 and 1951 box cars/refrigerator cars that had bodies constructed of plywood laminated with plastic, if I understand him properly. They were apparently manufactured by PSCC in 1950 and MAY have gone to the ACL a few years later. Apparently the car lettering and paint schemes are different, plus # 1950 has ice hatches, whilst # 1951 does not. Either or both may have a silver, white, or blue roof - photos do not make this clear. He is designing decals and is looking for info on the lettering on either or both of these cars. Plus he’s looking for good pictures/dimensions for the cars' details, so an accurate model can be made of each - this includes the corner steps, coupler mounts, and the removable refrigeration unit mounted under #1951. His aim is to scratchbuild models of both these cars in HO. Thanks in advance for any help you can give." See Patrick Wider's "Early Lightweight House Cars" in Railway Prototype Cyclopedia #26. Article description from the online index at http://www.rpcycpub.com/RPCYC_Article_Index1-30.pdf : "Part of the continuing series covering American box car and refrigerator car designs, the article describes the lightweight aluminum and Unicel house car designs built during the 1940s to
early 1950s. This includes box cars for 10 American and
Canadian railroads (ACL, Alton, C&O, CN, CP, GN, M&StL, NKP,
RI, RS) and refrigerator cars for FGEX, IC, and PFE." Ben Hom
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Unicel 1950 and 1951 box cars/refrigerator cars
North Model Railroad Supplies <nmrs@...>
A friend of mine is working on the Unicel 1950 and 1951 box cars/refrigerator cars that had bodies constructed of plywood laminated with plastic, if I understand him properly. They were apparently manufactured by PSCC in 1950 and MAY have gone to the ACL a few years later.
Apparently the car lettering and paint schemes are different, plus # 1950 has ice hatches, whilst # 1951 does not. Either or both may have a silver, white, or blue roof - photos do not make this clear.
He is designing decals and is looking for info on the lettering on either or both of these cars.
Plus he’s looking for good pictures/ dimensions for the cars' details, so an accurate model can be made of each - this includes the corner steps, coupler mounts, and the removable refrigeration unit mounted under #1951.
His aim is to scratchbuild models of both these cars in HO.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Cheers Dave North
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Re: Weathering Trucks
Eric,
I have switched over to using "craft acrylics" for weathering. I have a fairly large supply of the Delta Ceramcoat paints. They come in 4 oz. bottles that cost less than an ounce bottle of any "RR paint". I am not sure where to get them any more. I used to buy them at Michael's or JoAnn's and the last time I was in either of those they did not have them. The thing to look for in a "craft acrylic" is the density of the pigment. The cheaper brands don't put as much color in the paint. I have a full complement of craft acrylic "earth tones". And often add some colors that are well outside of that label (in -small- quantities). I should add - I very rarely use an airbrush for my primary weathering any more. It's been almost a decade not since I stopped doing that (more?). Almost all of my -weathering- is done with detail touches (brush) and 'washes'. And runs of grime where roofs and doors drain. And "dry brush" streaks. And ... well, you get the idea. After I have the weathering where I like it I will hit the car with a very light application of "dull coat" ... to lock it all in place ... and then - some times - after it is fully dry (2 days or more later) I will apply some very light "blending coats" of weathering colors (airbrush) ... usually a lacquer such as Floquil and colors such as "grimy black" and "dust" and "mud". I also use artists chalks - in earth tones and blending several different shades to get the color(s) that I want. I especially prefer chalks for doing stuff like grain spills, cement spills, and iron ore spills. ** Trucks and Wheels ** I use all hand painting for weathering trucks and wheels. For the trucks I -start- by doing the wheels! I do them by using a fairly dense mix of color = usually either a dull rust (fully oxidized) or grey (mud). All the wheels on each car get the same color - but I try to have different wheel colors/shades on different cars. And to have the wheels at least a couple of shades different from the trucks. Just load the brush and insert it in against the axle and the wheel face and turn the wheel with your finger. Don't paint the tread! Then I use an oxidized rust color and brush paint the truck side frames with a paint thin enough to run and not show any 'ridges'. I don't try to "cover" perfectly ... if some of the black plastic shows thru behind the brown it's actually better ... Finally - I add some dark 'charcoal' shade around the bearings (lube boxes). **** I don't have a "formula" for mixing weathering colors. I use a few drops of each of black, white, burnt sienna, burnt umber, dusty yellow, dark green ... etc., etc. etc. ... and mix them to my whim for the day. The resulting shades are actually highly -similar- ... but enough different that they "feel right". One color I never apply/use is that orangey color that Floquil sold as "rust". There actually is a way that steel/iron will look that color ... but it doesn't last more than a few hours and is rarely seen on any RR equipment (never?). - Jim B.
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Re: Weathering Trucks
pennsylvania1954
Eric--This may help in your search for a Poly S (and Floquil) replacement for Rail Brown.
Here is a chart from a Model Railroad Hobbyist discussion page with replacements for all your favorite colors: Floquil Paint to Military Color Conversion Chart V1.2 | Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine | Having fun with model trains | Instant access to model railway resources without barriers Steve Hoxie Pensacola FL
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Re: KCS "DF" Boxcar
Ed Hawkins
thekays100@... [STMFC] wrote:
Stephen, The description helps. The prototype cars were 5 PS-1 insulated box cars, KCS 1700-1704, built ca. 8-60 with 8' door openings & plug doors. Pullman-Standard built about 223 cars of this general type in July-September 1960 for CGW, KCS, Merchants Despatch (NRBX and NYRX reporting marks), and a single car for Trans-Leasing, TLCX 10. The roof and ends were proprietary components made by Pullman-Standard. Given these box cars were insulated, the PS-1 roof was the Z-U eave design as was typical on insulated box cars and reefers. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: Lube markings practices?
Guy Wilber
Dennis wrote:
"The "Journal Pac", or references to "lubricators" also came very late in the history of solid bearings, post 1960 IIRC. Both are references to proprietary journal pads rather than loose waste." AAR approved lubricating devices for plain bearings were required on all new and rebuilt cars as of January 1, 1957. Cars which received heavy repairs (over 100 hours of labor) were subject to the same rule. Cars so equipped were required to receive a 1-1/2" stenciled block of contrasting color near the original packing or repack stencil. If the trade name of the device was applied to the car it was a requirement to maintain it as well. Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada
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Re: KCS "DF" Boxcar
hubert mask
Only offer this car in the 50 version as far as decals
Mask Island Decals .com
Hubert Mask.
On Feb 8, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: KCS "DF" Boxcar
StephenK
Good point. I should have been more specific.
The car shown in the photo is a 40' plug door car, painted box car red. The lettering to the left of the door is minimal. Reporting marks "K.C.S." Car Number 1701, and data. Right of the door, a big rectangle with DF inside and the word "insulated" beneath, and the data. The lettering looks like it is white, and all is in Roman Style. I am lousy at identifying car builders, etc., but this car has a "bowtie" style roof. Of course, I have no way of knowing if the model is correct! S Kay
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Re: Odd 4 rivet wide vertical seam boxcar
Riverboy
The flat car behind (in front of?) the box car intrigues me as well. An interesting load. Tod C Dwyer (Ohio)
On Monday, February 8, 2016 8:58 PM, "Schleigh Mike mike_schleigh@... [STMFC]" wrote: This car that Gary has asked about appears to be a 1951 rebuilt car from MP 47000 series. The rivet (and stenciling) pattern seems more affected by the blurred image rather than the design. See RP CYC 14 page 37 for a better image. Regards----Mike Schleigh Grove City, Penna On Monday, February 8, 2016 8:39 PM, "'gary laakso' vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" wrote: This is a partially blurred picture but the 4 rivet wide vertical seams on
the side of the car do stand out as well as the extra width added. Does
anyone recognize this boxcar?
https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/Jun-1953-Weber-Canyon/i-9C6vD5q/Ahttps://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/Jun-1953-Weber-Canyon/i-9C6vD5q/A
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
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Re: Odd 4 rivet wide vertical seam boxcar
Schleigh Mike
This car that Gary has asked about appears to be a 1951 rebuilt car from MP 47000 series. The rivet (and stenciling) pattern seems more affected by the blurred image rather than the design. See RP CYC 14 page 37 for a better image. Regards----Mike Schleigh Grove City, Penna
On Monday, February 8, 2016 8:39 PM, "'gary laakso' vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" wrote: This is a partially blurred picture but the 4 rivet wide vertical seams on
the side of the car do stand out as well as the extra width added. Does
anyone recognize this boxcar?
https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/Jun-1953-Weber-Canyon/i-9C6vD5q/Ahttps://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/Jun-1953-Weber-Canyon/i-9C6vD5q/A
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
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